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Username Post: Wheel Spacers?        (Topic#354166)
BOB_SPRADLIN 
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12-01-18 05:33 PM - Post#2753027    

I would like to spread my back wheels out 1/4".
Im a little to close to my inner wheelwell lip.
Does anybody have any pros or cons on using the aluminum wheel spacers or any other kind. I want to
make sure there safe to run. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank You

BOB



 
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raycow 
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12-01-18 10:50 PM - Post#2753051    
    In response to BOB_SPRADLIN

Do your wheels center on the lugs or the axle shaft pilots?

Ray

Those who choose an automatic transmission want transportation. Those who choose a manual transmission want to drive.


 
Shepherd 
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12-02-18 05:30 AM - Post#2753063    
    In response to BOB_SPRADLIN

Make sure you have enough thread engagement on the wheel studs, if you put the spacers on.



 
BOB_SPRADLIN 
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12-08-18 08:56 PM - Post#2753935    
    In response to raycow

Ray,
Im running 15 x 8 unilug SS Cragers.



 
raycow 
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12-09-18 12:17 AM - Post#2753949    
    In response to BOB_SPRADLIN

Unilugs are supposed to center on the lugs, so you should be good to go. Be sure to observe Shepherd's caution about thread engagement.

Ray

Those who choose an automatic transmission want transportation. Those who choose a manual transmission want to drive.


 
BOB_SPRADLIN 
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12-31-18 07:04 PM - Post#2756188    
    In response to raycow

Thank all you guys for your input.
HAPPY NEW YEAR.



 
Bad56Sedan 
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01-02-19 09:21 PM - Post#2756420    
    In response to BOB_SPRADLIN

I actually used 20 new washers , 2 on each lug looking to just move over a pinch,
maybe 1/8", it worked, I didn't like it but it worked

VC56S 2 door Sedan, 39 Years

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Edited by Bad56Sedan on 01-02-19 09:23 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
roger55 
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01-23-19 12:54 PM - Post#2758022    
    In response to Bad56Sedan

  • Bad56Sedan Said:
I actually used 20 new washers , 2 on each lug looking to just move over a pinch,
maybe 1/8", it worked, I didn't like it but it worked


I hope you don't drive the car this way. Downright dangerous. You would be risking your life and the lives of others too.

Please tell me you are joking.

If not get good quality wheel spacers and make sure your wheel studs are long enough.



Edited by roger55 on 01-23-19 01:09 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Shepherd 
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01-23-19 03:27 PM - Post#2758029    
    In response to roger55

Seconded the wheel should be flat to the spacer or hub! Better periodically check wheel nut torque.



 
Bad56Sedan 
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01-23-19 06:18 PM - Post#2758054    
    In response to roger55

I' m not kidding,
I.D of washers fitted to O.D. Of the wheel studs,
Was a non issue for several years,
No different than a aluminum wheel spacer,
The contact point at each lug is the same.
Like I said, I didn't like it, but it worked.

VC56S 2 door Sedan, 39 Years

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Edited by Bad56Sedan on 01-23-19 06:21 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
roger55 
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01-24-19 12:29 PM - Post#2758119    
    In response to Bad56Sedan

It is not the same as a spacer. The contact area is concentrated around the lugs and will put more stress on them.



 
Rick_L 
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01-24-19 07:24 PM - Post#2758149    
    In response to roger55

X2 on that. The washers are a recipe for disaster. Unless of course it's a garage queen or trailer queen.



 
Bad56Sedan 
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01-24-19 08:01 PM - Post#2758155    
    In response to roger55

all I can say is that's your opinion,
and I'm saying the actual crush, contact using a washer is the same as a wheel spacer,
the torque, crush applied to the lug bolt is exactly the same as if there is no washer or a wheel spacer behind the rim,
why even some rims are NOT 100% contact with the hub, only at the lug locations, wonder how that works?
It worked, it was no threat to others as you have implied.





VC56S 2 door Sedan, 39 Years

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Rick_L 
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01-25-19 09:46 AM - Post#2758190    
    In response to Bad56Sedan

The problem is that the wheel wants to bend around the edges of the washer. Won't do that with a spacer. On an aluminum wheel the area that contacts the washer will end up lower than the surrounding material. On a steel wheel the contact area is not as continuous but the washer still doesn't have as much contact unless it's a very large washer.

Any of this could cause a loose lug nut. When you decrease the number of tight lug nuts that just puts more load on the remaining ones, making the chance of another loose lug greater. Three adjacent loose lugs and you'll break one and possibly lose the wheel.




 
YOUNG57 
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01-29-19 01:33 PM - Post#2758491    
    In response to Bad56Sedan

Bad56Sedan

I would have to agree with you on the washers being as safe as a full spacer. Their contact area will be greater than the lug nuts on the other side of the wheel and either is great enough for proper torque.




 
roger55 
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02-04-19 10:01 AM - Post#2758972    
    In response to YOUNG57

  • YOUNG57 Said:
Bad56Sedan
I would have to agree with you on the washers being as safe as a full spacer. Their contact area will be greater than the lug nuts on the other side of the wheel and either is great enough for proper torque.



The problem with that thinking is the other parts of the wheel face that are designed to make contact with the hub will not be in contact.
This changes how the forces act on the clamped unit and is a dangerous thing to do.

Use a good quality spacer and make sure the studs are long enough and replace with longer ones if necessary.







 
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