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Username Post: Fuel sender float came apart in tank        (Topic#353332)
MrImpalaMan 
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10-07-18 06:20 AM - Post#2748035    

What would cause this!? It’s a fairly new sender in a fairly new tank. I ran one tank of ethanol before switching to pure gas. Car runs fine. Wasn’t expecting to see this when I pulled out the sender. Would ethanol gas do this? I think I got my sender from Classic Industries.

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Paul
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55Brodie 
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10-07-18 06:57 AM - Post#2748040    
    In response to MrImpalaMan

Some ting wong.
I think your sender originated in China.



 
Tri5man 
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10-07-18 07:15 AM - Post#2748042    
    In response to 55Brodie

Brodie X2.



 
DonSSDD 
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10-07-18 09:54 AM - Post#2748046    
    In response to Tri5man

There is a ford float that fits, maybe someone will have the part number. It’s plastic and fits and works great.

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Tri5man 
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10-07-18 11:36 AM - Post#2748058    
    In response to DonSSDD

Ford gas tank float part number is COAZ9202-B.

Don't use Chinese junk made by small children which is what Chevy parts vendors like Classic, Ecklers and others sell.

Wonder how high Chinese parts prices will rise after the new International trade tariffs kick in? Some of these parts vendors may be in for a rude awakening.

Gary



 
junky 
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10-07-18 01:25 PM - Post#2748065    
    In response to MrImpalaMan

That is a result of using flat material, and then using a large press to form the shape. It was then soldered. Problem is that metal unless it is properly heat treated always wants to go back to its original for, such as a lot of the stamped headlight parts from cars of the 1920's & 1930's. It is a metallurgy problem that is as old as cars themselves. The extra steps to properly anneal the metal is going to cost more, so they take th short cuts, and you the buyer is the one that suffers the consequences.

Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level, then beat you with experience.


 
Aussie_Chevy_Nut 
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10-07-18 08:02 PM - Post#2748084    
    In response to junky

Wow! What a strange thing. It would seem then that going back to using original floats that are still fitted to junkers in the boneyard might be a reasonable proposition; recycle OEM parts still hiding in old tanks. That way at least the float would have long ago self destructed if it was going to do that, leaving the useful ones for harvest!
John
We can still get Ethanol free gas but I have still had a "new" float from one of the major suppliers go south on me. Go figure.




 
MrImpalaMan 
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10-08-18 03:35 AM - Post#2748099    
    In response to DonSSDD

I actually looked up that part number for the Ford float that everyone mentions on here and called Ford parts department at a dealership in town and they wanted $85 for it! I said I don't want the whole sender just the float and they said this is for just the float...I said no thanks.

Paul
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MrImpalaMan 
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10-08-18 03:41 AM - Post#2748101    
    In response to junky

Thanks Junky, that explanation makes sense. Skipping steps in the process to save a buck.

Paul
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MrImpalaMan 
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10-08-18 03:47 AM - Post#2748104    
    In response to Aussie_Chevy_Nut

I actually did that, sort of. Called a friend to show him what was going on and he said he had some old senders with floats that he didn't throw away. So I went over to his house and took a float off of a 59 Apache truck sender. Looked like it would work so I popped it on my sender.

Paul
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DonSSDD 
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10-08-18 04:50 AM - Post#2748106    
    In response to MrImpalaMan

Test the float in a pan of boiling water before installing it, it will blow bubbles out any holes in the brass.

The ford float I got was about $10 at the time, it was black plastic.

Don

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DonSSDD 
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10-08-18 04:55 AM - Post#2748107    
    In response to DonSSDD

Google the part number, I got one for $4.95 at an old ford parts place. GO FIGURE with dealer prices.

https://cgfordparts.com/ufolder/fordpart.php?numbe...

It may have some cork? But likely lots of options for this part elsewhere at less than $85.

Don

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Tri5man 
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10-08-18 06:06 AM - Post#2748114    
    In response to DonSSDD

$85 is nothing and a cheap price to pay for not having to continually do the float replacement over and over again. Not to mention keeping contamination out of the fuel system.

Going "Cheap" always costs you and usually leaves you stuck on the side of the road somewhere.


Gary



 
turbo38s10 
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10-08-18 07:52 AM - Post#2748123    
    In response to Tri5man

Not to mention all those pieces floating around in your tank. You should send it back to the supplier.



 
Swifster 
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10-08-18 05:45 PM - Post#2748176    
    In response to Tri5man

Man, this was my thought. Do it once and never again...

Tom

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Motorhead1959 
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10-15-18 09:58 AM - Post#2748732    
    In response to MrImpalaMan

I've noticed that there are a lot of guys on these forums that like to blame children in China for all our problems but they're whining up the wrong tree.
The cause of this is ethanol in your fuel and we have our own Government to thank for that. Even a small percentage in gasoline will cause this. When your car sits, condensation forms in your gas tank. The water from condensation is absorbed by the Ethanol and this caustic mixture goes to work on rubber and all base metals (copper, brass and zinc) which includes your carb and lots of other stuff in your fuel system. I had to replace my new 4bbl carb, fuel pump and sending unit after letting my car sit for less than 6 mos. My carb rebuilder said he'd never seen anything like it in 30 years. The inside of my carb had been eaten away and it was a total loss. Here's what I've done to prevent these issues. I replaced sending unit with one made by Spectra (the only one that claimed to be Ethanol compatible), I replaced fuel pump with Carter that claimed to be Ethanol compatible, replaced all std. fuel lines with Gates Fuel injection hoses with green lining (Ethanol compatible) and I started adding Sta-Bil Ethanol 360 into every tank of gas (*note the name-this is not Sta-bil for storage) And VERY important, I stopped parking/storing my cars with less than 1/2 a tank of fuel in them (to prevent condensation). This problem is VERY common and there's a lot more info out there than 3 years ago when I had these issues. The problem is not the "quality"of your parts, it's their incompatibility with Ethanol.
Good luck, Steve
Here's Jay Leno to explain it better:
https://autoweek.com/article/car-life/jay- leno-hat...



Edited by Motorhead1959 on 10-15-18 10:00 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
2blu52 
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10-15-18 02:31 PM - Post#2748767    
    In response to Tri5man

X3!

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DonSSDD 
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10-16-18 03:28 AM - Post#2748796    
    In response to 2blu52

Motorhead, its both ethanol and poor quality parts.

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MrImpalaMan 
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10-16-18 03:38 AM - Post#2748797    
    In response to Motorhead1959

Thanks for that information. I hoped that wasn't the case. I now buy pure gas for my 64. I've never agreed with using food for fuel.

Paul
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