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Username Post: 47' fleetmaster 216 engine swap        (Topic#353289)
Pmwrp 
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10-03-18 07:20 PM - Post#2747825    

Im a proud new owner of a 1947 chevy fleetmaster. It has the original 216 in with a 3 speed manual. Motor is running rough so i found a 72' 250ci.my question is, would this be a easy drop in plug and play?

The 250 comes with the original 3 speed and bell housing.

Thanks





 

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lofat46 
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10-04-18 12:40 PM - Post#2747862    
    In response to Pmwrp

Chassis Engineering had the mounts to bolt the later 6 into the car. I say “had” because I don’t know if Heidt’s, who bought CE, has the entire CE catalog available yet. Check them out, if they do, that would be the way to go. The 216 uses motor mounts off the front of the engine and bell housing. The ‘72 uses a trans mount on the tail shaft and the engine uses side mounts like a small block Chevy. Another source is Patrick’s Antique Auto Parts. They specialize in Chevy 6 stuff. Also, if you want to use the ‘72 3-speed, you’ll have to change rear ends to eliminate the torque tube.





Edited by lofat46 on 10-04-18 12:59 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Keith_Knox 
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10-04-18 03:19 PM - Post#2747869    
    In response to Pmwrp

Welcome to ChevyTalk.
At this point I would recommend finding our why the engine is running rough. The 250 is a good swap but far from plug and play. Get a service manual or look here on line for the online manual.
Also go to my ChevyTalk and fill out your profile, especially where you live and there may be someone close to you that would lend a hand.
http://chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com/

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1948 Chevy Fleetmaster Coupe Purchased 6/2010. Stock with rebuilt 52 216 installed May 1966.
1946 Chevy 1/2 ton pickup, stock. Purchased 11/18/17.
1962 Ranchero Purchased 4/2017 221 V8 Auto. Sold 9/20/18
2013 F150


 
Keith_Knox 
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10-04-18 03:41 PM - Post#2747870    
    In response to lofat46

There has been some concerns about Patricks recently.

29-41, 42-48, 49-54 Moderator
1948 Chevy Fleetmaster Coupe Purchased 6/2010. Stock with rebuilt 52 216 installed May 1966.
1946 Chevy 1/2 ton pickup, stock. Purchased 11/18/17.
1962 Ranchero Purchased 4/2017 221 V8 Auto. Sold 9/20/18
2013 F150


 
Keith_Knox 
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10-04-18 03:46 PM - Post#2747873    
    In response to Pmwrp

How long had the engine been setting before you started it? If it sat quite a while, it could have stuck a valve and bent the pushrod. Result rough running engine.

29-41, 42-48, 49-54 Moderator
1948 Chevy Fleetmaster Coupe Purchased 6/2010. Stock with rebuilt 52 216 installed May 1966.
1946 Chevy 1/2 ton pickup, stock. Purchased 11/18/17.
1962 Ranchero Purchased 4/2017 221 V8 Auto. Sold 9/20/18
2013 F150


 
raycow 
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10-05-18 09:10 PM - Post#2747954    
    In response to Pmwrp

If Heidt's no longer supplies the CE mounts you need, then you might want to look at the mounts available from Davis Speed Equipment. It is possible to keep your stock torque tube with the 250 if you use a 48-54 truck 3 speed trans, which will bolt to both the torque tube and the stock 250 bellhousing. However, you might still want to consider the open drive conversion because it will give you much better gearing choices than the torque tube in addition to letting you use the 250 3 speed.

I am in complete agreement with Keith about the 250 not being anywhere near plug and play, although it is a lot less disruptive than any V-8 swap. IMO, it would be best to first find out what is wrong with the 216 before you commit to the 250. Once you know how much of an investment in work and $ the 216 would involve, you will be in a much better position to decide whether or not to proceed with the 250 install.

Ray


Those who choose an automatic transmission want transportation. Those who choose a manual transmission want to drive.


 
rawaag 
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10-09-18 12:53 PM - Post#2748245    
    In response to Keith_Knox

Keith, I saw the post about using Patrick's for Chevy parts and your reply about concerns. I ordered parts in February and it took me almost 5 months and dozens of calls to get part of my order. They still owe be a short nose water pump that was paid for 9 months ago. I talked to Junior and he got me the cam that's it. I heard Patrick was sick? What's the story there. Hate to loose a good source for parts.



Ralph


 
Keith_Knox 
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10-09-18 09:36 PM - Post#2748298    
    In response to rawaag

Here is a discussion on the VCCA site.

https://vccachat.org/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/N...

29-41, 42-48, 49-54 Moderator
1948 Chevy Fleetmaster Coupe Purchased 6/2010. Stock with rebuilt 52 216 installed May 1966.
1946 Chevy 1/2 ton pickup, stock. Purchased 11/18/17.
1962 Ranchero Purchased 4/2017 221 V8 Auto. Sold 9/20/18
2013 F150


 

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