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Username Post: frame        (Topic#352382)
samsonized 
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08-07-18 01:03 PM - Post#2742225    

is a 51 station wagon frame and a 51 fleetline frame the same



 

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08-07-18 02:38 PM - Post#2742232    
    In response to samsonized

I just looked at the parts manual from the old manual project and it answered my question however the manual says a 1951 and a 1952 are different does anyone know what the difference is



 
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08-07-18 03:21 PM - Post#2742239    
    In response to samsonized

The significant difference is engine and transmission mounts. Apart from that, they will interchange under either year body.

Ray

Those who choose an automatic transmission want transportation. Those who choose a manual transmission want to drive.


 
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08-07-18 04:28 PM - Post#2742246    
    In response to raycow

are the body mounts the same



 
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08-07-18 05:01 PM - Post#2742252    
    In response to samsonized

Between 51 and 52, the body mounts are the same for the same body styles.

Ray

Those who choose an automatic transmission want transportation. Those who choose a manual transmission want to drive.


 
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08-07-18 05:10 PM - Post#2742254    
    In response to raycow

To add to what Ray has said. The 51 was the first frame with the tower engine mounts which carried through 53-54. The rest of the 53-4 frame is different from the earlier ones.

The convertible frames are quite unique, and have a complex center brace to support the roofless body.

The Bel Air frame from 50-52 also has some extra internal bracing but looks like a standard frame.

None of the frames have a rear shock cross member and the higher spec GM models all do.

Original frames were designed for 80-150 Hp and low top speeds.

Cheers Kiwi


48 3100 RHD, 51 Deluxe 4DR RHD, 51 Bel Air parts car, 52 Bel Air P-Glide LHD. Others 23T, 32 Tudor, 58 Edsel pacer 4DR HDT, 79 F250 351C RHD. 69,70,82 Capri. No mobile, no TV, and no Jap cars.

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08-07-18 05:54 PM - Post#2742266    
    In response to Bel Air kiwi

would a station wagon body mounts and a fleetline 2 door be the same



 
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08-07-18 05:58 PM - Post#2742268    
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I am trying to put a 51 fleetline 2 door on a 52 station wagon frame



 
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08-07-18 06:23 PM - Post#2742271    
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  • Bel Air kiwi Said:
.....The 51 was the first frame with the tower engine mounts which carried through 53-54. The rest of the 53-4 frame is different from the earlier ones.....



Sorry, Kiwi, 52 was the first year for the side mounts.

Those who choose an automatic transmission want transportation. Those who choose a manual transmission want to drive.


 
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08-07-18 06:30 PM - Post#2742273    
    In response to samsonized

  • samsonized Said:
I am trying to put a 51 fleetline 2 door on a 52 station wagon frame


I had to check the parts book for that one because I thought the wagon frame might be different. It's not, though. The frames are the same for all body types except the convertible and hardtop.

Ray

Those who choose an automatic transmission want transportation. Those who choose a manual transmission want to drive.


 
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08-07-18 06:39 PM - Post#2742276    
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should the body mounts be the in the same place



 
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08-07-18 10:45 PM - Post#2742296    
    In response to samsonized

They would have to be, because the frames are the same except for the engine and trans mounts.

Ray

Those who choose an automatic transmission want transportation. Those who choose a manual transmission want to drive.


 
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08-08-18 05:41 AM - Post#2742316    
    In response to raycow

Some of the older salvage yards used a Hollander interchange manual. A local yard here helped me find a suitable frame for my '50 sedan delivery. I was a '51 4 door styleline sedan. If you could find one of those manuals that would help. Not sure if they are still published or if they have a website.

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08-08-18 01:31 PM - Post#2742361    
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thanks



 
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08-09-18 03:28 PM - Post#2742526    
    In response to raycow

Hi Ray, My bad, I meant to type 52 and goofed.

The sedan frames should interchange with a station wagon. If there are any changes in body mounts they should be very minor. You can take them off one and put to the other.

As a word of caution, I would always take the donor frame and get it cleaned and primed then put on a chassis table to check it is still square and true.
It's hard to build a straight car on a crooked chassis.

Cheers kiwi


48 3100 RHD, 51 Deluxe 4DR RHD, 51 Bel Air parts car, 52 Bel Air P-Glide LHD. Others 23T, 32 Tudor, 58 Edsel pacer 4DR HDT, 79 F250 351C RHD. 69,70,82 Capri. No mobile, no TV, and no Jap cars.

"They made a desert and called it peace." Tacitus


 

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