samsonized
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08-07-18 12:03 PM - Post#2742225
is a 51 station wagon frame and a 51 fleetline frame the same
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samsonized
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08-07-18 01:38 PM - Post#2742232
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I just looked at the parts manual from the old manual project and it answered my question however the manual says a 1951 and a 1952 are different does anyone know what the difference is
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08-07-18 02:21 PM - Post#2742239
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The significant difference is engine and transmission mounts. Apart from that, they will interchange under either year body.
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08-07-18 03:28 PM - Post#2742246
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are the body mounts the same
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08-07-18 04:01 PM - Post#2742252
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Between 51 and 52, the body mounts are the same for the same body styles.
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08-07-18 04:10 PM - Post#2742254
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To add to what Ray has said. The 51 was the first frame with the tower engine mounts which carried through 53-54. The rest of the 53-4 frame is different from the earlier ones.
The convertible frames are quite unique, and have a complex center brace to support the roofless body.
The Bel Air frame from 50-52 also has some extra internal bracing but looks like a standard frame.
None of the frames have a rear shock cross member and the higher spec GM models all do.
Original frames were designed for 80-150 Hp and low top speeds.
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08-07-18 04:54 PM - Post#2742266
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would a station wagon body mounts and a fleetline 2 door be the same
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08-07-18 04:58 PM - Post#2742268
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I am trying to put a 51 fleetline 2 door on a 52 station wagon frame
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08-07-18 05:23 PM - Post#2742271
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.....The 51 was the first frame with the tower engine mounts which carried through 53-54. The rest of the 53-4 frame is different from the earlier ones.....
Sorry, Kiwi, 52 was the first year for the side mounts.
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08-07-18 05:30 PM - Post#2742273
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I am trying to put a 51 fleetline 2 door on a 52 station wagon frame
I had to check the parts book for that one because I thought the wagon frame might be different. It's not, though. The frames are the same for all body types except the convertible and hardtop.
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08-07-18 05:39 PM - Post#2742276
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should the body mounts be the in the same place
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08-07-18 09:45 PM - Post#2742296
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They would have to be, because the frames are the same except for the engine and trans mounts.
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08-08-18 04:41 AM - Post#2742316
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Some of the older salvage yards used a Hollander interchange manual. A local yard here helped me find a suitable frame for my '50 sedan delivery. I was a '51 4 door styleline sedan. If you could find one of those manuals that would help. Not sure if they are still published or if they have a website.
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08-08-18 12:31 PM - Post#2742361
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thanks
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08-09-18 02:28 PM - Post#2742526
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Hi Ray, My bad, I meant to type 52 and goofed.
The sedan frames should interchange with a station wagon. If there are any changes in body mounts they should be very minor. You can take them off one and put to the other.
As a word of caution, I would always take the donor frame and get it cleaned and primed then put on a chassis table to check it is still square and true.
It's hard to build a straight car on a crooked chassis.
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