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Username Post: Cross country in ‘61        (Topic#351910)
omarine 
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Loc: San Diego
Reg: 06-29-15
07-07-18 05:59 AM - Post#2739264    

Going on day 4 which will end in Orlando. Left San Diego on Tues driving the 61 bubbletop. Running well, even with desert temps, AC on high, lights on, etc.

Running points, carb, genny, manual drums all around. Car hasnt missed a beat. Averaging 15 mpg with 450 lbs of cargo.


Been a fun drive even though ive been in a hurry. After orlando it’s off to Miami.

Leaving Gulfport MS soon.

Cheers
Oscar



61 Impala bubbletop, 283, 2bbl Rochester, generator, points and drum brakes- daily driver
'49 Harley Davidson FL - Panhead


 




bluefire 
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Loc: Milwaukee
Reg: 06-28-14
07-07-18 06:20 AM - Post#2739267    
    In response to omarine

Cool! Safe travels.



 
Chevrobert 
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Loc: Braintree, Ma. USA
Reg: 06-14-08
07-07-18 04:23 PM - Post#2739303    
    In response to omarine


Outstanding!
They were after all,
made to be driven.
Please post lots of pictures.
If you take I75 down stop or at least wave
at The Don Garlits Museum of Drag Racing.
13700 SW 16th Ave, Ocala, Florida,
LITERALLY just off Interstate 75.




Bob
'64 Impala SS
'77 Pontiac Ventura SJ
'85 Lincoln Town Car
Ain't to proud to think out loud.


 
omarine 
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Loc: San Diego
Reg: 06-29-15
07-07-18 05:03 PM - Post#2739309    
    In response to Chevrobert

Timing was perfect! Read this post 10m before the exit. Got off but it was closed at 8pm when i arrived. Thanks for the tip, didnt know it was here.


Will try to post pics if i can figure it out.



61 Impala bubbletop, 283, 2bbl Rochester, generator, points and drum brakes- daily driver
'49 Harley Davidson FL - Panhead


 
rrausch 
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rrausch
Loc: L.A, Cal. & St. Louis...
Reg: 04-07-03
07-07-18 08:47 PM - Post#2739324    
    In response to omarine

See the USA, in your Chevrolet...

1953 210 Convertible, 261 with dual Carter YF 966S carbs, P.S., Remote Bendix P.B. Booster... shade-tree restoration about done.




 
Chevrobert 
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Loc: Braintree, Ma. USA
Reg: 06-14-08
07-08-18 07:57 PM - Post#2739410    
    In response to omarine

  • omarine Said:
Timing was perfect! Read this post 10m before the exit. Got off but it was closed at 8pm when i arrived. Thanks for the tip, didn't know it was here.



Your welcome.
I was driving back north one time and my eye happened upon the compound as I passed.
Looked it up when I got home.

http://garlits.com/events/category/dons- 2018-sched...

Next drive down to Sarasota,
I stayed over in in Ocala,
hit it early then continued.
Impressive/historical/fun .




Bob
'64 Impala SS
'77 Pontiac Ventura SJ
'85 Lincoln Town Car
Ain't to proud to think out loud.


 
4speedman 
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07-09-18 07:21 PM - Post#2739505    
    In response to Chevrobert

I like it points, genny, drum brakes = no problems



 
omarine 
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Loc: San Diego
Reg: 06-29-15
07-10-18 05:14 PM - Post#2739610    
    In response to 4speedman

Installed vintage air right before leaving CA. Barely ven turned it on there.

Here, temps creep up 220* when sitting in traffic.

I have a 2 row champion alumium radiator which never went over 200* in CA even in traffic.

Would a 3 row make a difference? I know i could use electric fan, but car is mostly period correct, and Im tryng to avoid electric fans.

Also had air screws at 3 turns out. Had to go to 6 turns out with the heat and humidity here.

Thanks fellas.


61 Impala bubbletop, 283, 2bbl Rochester, generator, points and drum brakes- daily driver
'49 Harley Davidson FL - Panhead


 
BigDogSS 
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Reg: 12-21-01
07-11-18 08:24 AM - Post#2739689    
    In response to omarine

Way cool road trip!
Was the 220 with the A/C on? You may not have enough fan with the added A/C. I think an added electric fan would be OK, since you already have Vintage and an aluminum radiator.
Good luck and be safe.

    1967 Chevrolet Impala SS convertible - Ermine White C1
    1967 Chevrolet Impala SS 396 - Marina Blue FF



 
Mercedes 
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Reg: 07-09-18
07-11-18 09:04 AM - Post#2739691    
    In response to BigDogSS

Be certain that your fan clutch is good.

Also, make sure that you are not drawing air from around the radiator versus through it. I had an older car with AC and I added baffles to force the air across the condenser and radiator. It was easy to do with vinyl sheeting available at hardware stores and looked OEM if you could see it at all.



 
omarine 
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Loc: San Diego
Reg: 06-29-15
07-12-18 06:24 AM - Post#2739765    
    In response to Mercedes

Thanks fellas, the 220* happened in stopped traffic on a hot night in Houston.


The air screws were 3 turns out in CA. I am now at 6 turns out and i noticed the temp hasnt sky rocketed as easily. Stays more around 185 driving and 200 sitting.

I was also recommended "warer wetter" so might give that a try.

I was a bit confused about baffles made from vinyl, sounds interesting.

Cheers

61 Impala bubbletop, 283, 2bbl Rochester, generator, points and drum brakes- daily driver
'49 Harley Davidson FL - Panhead


 
models916 
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Loc: Addison, IL
Reg: 05-28-10
07-13-18 04:57 AM - Post#2739822    
    In response to omarine

Turning out the screw will richen the mixture at idle. Thus lowering the temp at idle. Not sure what 3 turns out means but adjusting the screws in or out is a way of adjusting them for different climates.



 
64cv 
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64cv
Reg: 06-05-08
07-22-18 08:17 PM - Post#2740848    
    In response to omarine

Great story! Love to hear about you driving cross country in a 57 year old car! Like what you're doing keeping it near original. In my humble opinion, Vintage Air is a great compromise between originality and comfort. It exists so why not take advantage of it? You probably have a cell phone too. Since you've already decided the vintage air is an acceptable compromise to living like it's 1961, adding an electric fan wouldn't hurt; pretend it's part of the vintage air kit. Enjoy the trip!

Life is an optimization problem; make the most of it!

'64 Impala Convertible, Blueprint 383, Tremec TKO 5sp, 4-wheel disc brakes.


 
turbo38s10 
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turbo38s10
Loc: Agawam,MA
Reg: 09-17-09
07-23-18 06:02 AM - Post#2740868    
    In response to 64cv

Careful with electric fans. If your running a generator they draw lots of power.



Edited by turbo38s10 on 07-23-18 06:03 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Mercedes 
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07-23-18 04:54 PM - Post#2740936    
    In response to omarine

If you look around under the car, between the condenser and radiator, you will find open space on the sides. Again, if you look at the fan shroud and radiator, you'll find open space on the sides.

What I did years ago was to use vinyl and foam insulation to fill the gaps completely, requiring that all air pulled by the fan HAD to go through the condenser and radiator.

Air, like water, will follow the path of least resistance. If it can go around the condenser, it will.



 
Tri5man 
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07-24-18 05:48 AM - Post#2740984    
    In response to Mercedes

What fan is currently on the car?



 
omarine 
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Posts: 172

Loc: San Diego
Reg: 06-29-15
07-24-18 06:16 PM - Post#2741065    
    In response to Tri5man

Vintage air was the best alternative to trying to source original air.

Since arriving in FL ive removed the water pump pulley which was almost 7" instead of the 5-3/4" when factory air was opted for.

The pulley i found was 6" from Ecklers. Ive also installed the stock 5 blade fan in place of the 4 blade i had. Clutch too.

I used foam pipe insullation around the shroud like mercedes suggested.

And the 2 row aluminuim radiator will come out this week when the 4 row notched one arrives thursday.

Re checked timing and it seemed a bit advanced, retarding it a bit helped.

Now it takes a lot of idling to get it over 215*, but will report back when new radiator is installed.

On a side note, i re sealed rear glass with steele rubber gasket and lots of byutl in all the right places.

Water has still been collectijg under the rear seat. So the last area that hasnt been sealed have been rear quarter windows. Can that much water really be because of those seals?

I ask because it appears only cat whiskers were in there originally.

Cant seem to find the correct replacement for those.

Anyone have suggestions for getting a good seal there?

Thanks
Oscar

61 Impala bubbletop, 283, 2bbl Rochester, generator, points and drum brakes- daily driver
'49 Harley Davidson FL - Panhead


 
Schiavoneluke 
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Reg: 05-16-16
08-01-18 07:47 PM - Post#2741741    
    In response to omarine

Are you sure it's not your rear window still? Ive heard alot of people deal with this problem and I've never heard of the quarter windows causing problems. I fought with the rear window on my car for MONTHS before I finally called a guy who specializes in that sort of thing to pull the window again, and even he had to come back a second time to touch up a couple spots. One issue that often comes up is the clips to hold in the stainless trim around the glass. Does the sealant go on both sides of the clips? If not it will almost certainly leak. I would take out the rear seat and have someone with a hose spray the rear window, while someone sits in the back and watches chances are it's coming from there. Just look carefully, often times where the water seeps through on the inside of the glass isnt where the leak is on the outside as the water will trickle down the gasket before entering the car.



 
omarine 
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Loc: San Diego
Reg: 06-29-15
08-06-18 05:33 PM - Post#2742152    
    In response to Schiavoneluke

I am not sure of glass guy put buytl over the clips. I hope he did. Glass came out 2 or 3 times and i hope to never deal with it again.

I was reading in the manual how the rear quarter access panel u der the interior panels needs sealant in like 6 places. I think the water is coming in that way as well.

Need to do water test...



61 Impala bubbletop, 283, 2bbl Rochester, generator, points and drum brakes- daily driver
'49 Harley Davidson FL - Panhead


 




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