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Username Post: How quick in the quarter???        (Topic#351872)
Sethmark 
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07-04-18 05:33 PM - Post#2738985    

Who wants to guess what a 3spd, torque tube, full pressure 235 53 Chevy will do in the quarter?



 

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cbmkr56 
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07-04-18 05:48 PM - Post#2738989    
    In response to Sethmark

18.5



 
Sethmark 
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07-04-18 05:58 PM - Post#2738990    
    In response to cbmkr56

I wish....



 
wbeaton 
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07-04-18 06:59 PM - Post#2738997    
    In response to Sethmark

20.4 sec (theoretical) according to automobile-catalog.com

1951 Chevy Styleline Deluxe 2 Door Sedan
1954 235 with Isky Cam, Shaved Head
Dual Carter YF 787S Carbs on Offenhauser Intake
Split Manifold Dual Exhaust
3 Speed with 3.55 Differential
12V Conversion with Alternator
Pertronix Ignition


 
56sedandelivery 
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07-04-18 10:27 PM - Post#2739009    
    In response to wbeaton

  • wbeaton Said:
20.4 sec (theoretical) according to automobile-catalog.com



Maybe with a really strong tailwind!!! I had a 79 Buick Regal Station Wagon with a "corporate" Pontiac 301 2 barrel motor, and a TH-350 transmission. I took it to the Buick-Olds-Pont Drags at Bremerton Raceway one year; I was the slowest car there running a 17.8 ET. Now granted, I did have the air conditioning running, but an almost 18 second ET? I could have ate lunch on those passes. My last drag car before that was a rear motored, Super Comp Dragster, running off an 8.90 index, and I had to slow the car down to run that number.
I am Butch/56sedandelivery.




 
wbeaton 
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07-05-18 03:27 AM - Post#2739018    
    In response to 56sedandelivery

Butch, the same folks claim 18.4 sec for your old Regal wagon.

http://www.automobile-catalog.com/car/1979/180320/...


1951 Chevy Styleline Deluxe 2 Door Sedan
1954 235 with Isky Cam, Shaved Head
Dual Carter YF 787S Carbs on Offenhauser Intake
Split Manifold Dual Exhaust
3 Speed with 3.55 Differential
12V Conversion with Alternator
Pertronix Ignition


 
Sethmark 
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07-05-18 04:05 AM - Post#2739020    
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That automobile – catalog.com number has got to be theoretical. I have a more powerful motor but those long three speed shift still take a long time.



 
johnwd98 
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07-05-18 04:25 AM - Post#2739023    
    In response to Sethmark

I wonder what the same car would do with a cast iron Powerglide? Not really, as I get older, time becomes more precious. Don't want to have wait for that race to end. Haha.

1950 Fleetline, 350 TBI, 700R4, 3.73 posi rear Blazer axle, MII front. Remote door and trunk locks, GM cruise control, A/C,


 
wbeaton 
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07-05-18 07:12 AM - Post#2739037    
    In response to Sethmark

Ha. It is definitely theoretical. 23 secs sounds quite reasonable to me. The transmission in my car shifts slow and deliberate.

1951 Chevy Styleline Deluxe 2 Door Sedan
1954 235 with Isky Cam, Shaved Head
Dual Carter YF 787S Carbs on Offenhauser Intake
Split Manifold Dual Exhaust
3 Speed with 3.55 Differential
12V Conversion with Alternator
Pertronix Ignition


 
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07-05-18 09:03 AM - Post#2739053    
    In response to wbeaton

  • wbeaton Said:
Ha. It is definitely theoretical. 23 secs sounds quite reasonable to me. The transmission in my car shifts slow and deliberate.


From low to 2nd costs you 3 seconds. 0 to 60 time is considered forever!

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07-05-18 05:05 PM - Post#2739113    
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Hi Sethmark, The clue lies in the reaction time. Just kidding, a lot of mine are worse than that now, and in an auto.

There used to be an et/mph/Hp calculator which was used to verify performance and gear selection.

You plug in your weight, et and it would tell you what MPh you should be getting if optimised.

Sorry I can't remember the brand as we just called it the "dream wheel"

I have only had one run where the numbers all lined up exactly. It simply told me my car was correctly geared but underpowered.

Cheers Kiwi

48 3100 RHD, 51 Deluxe 4DR RHD, 51 Bel Air parts car, 52 Bel Air P-Glide LHD. Others 23T, 32 Tudor, 58 Edsel pacer 4DR HDT, 79 F250 351C RHD. 69,70,82 Capri. No mobile, no TV, and no Jap cars.

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raycow 
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07-05-18 10:53 PM - Post#2739142    
    In response to Sethmark

Nobody wants to believe how slow these cars really are. But here it is - acceleration test results from 1951 for a PG. I would expect a 3 speed car to be a smidge faster if it was in good condition and tuned properly.
http://chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com/fclymer/51fco...

Ray

Those who choose an automatic transmission want transportation. Those who choose a manual transmission want to drive.


 
Sethmark 
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07-07-18 04:50 AM - Post#2739261    
    In response to Bel Air kiwi

  • Bel Air kiwi Said:
Hi Sethmark, The clue lies in the reaction time. Just kidding, a lot of mine are worse than that now, and in an auto.





But it doesn’t! Timer doesn’t start until the car starts moving. Reaction time has no impact on elapsed time. Got a break the beam before the timer starts ticking.



Edited by Sethmark on 07-07-18 04:51 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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07-07-18 08:56 AM - Post#2739274    
    In response to Sethmark

20.4 seconds?
Could be worse:

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1953 210 Convertible, 261 with dual Carter YF 966S carbs, P.S., Remote Bendix P.B. Booster... shade-tree restoration about done.




 
Gene_Schneider 
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07-08-18 04:40 PM - Post#2739388    
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Road & Track Road test figures

1956 205 HP 3 speed
1/4 mile 16.6 secs.
0 to 60 9.0 Sec

1955 180 HP 3 speed with O.D.
1/4 mile 17.4 secs.
0 to 60 9.7 secs.
Only a couple of 1955-1956 cars could exceed these times and by only a very little.

Their test of a 1954 6 Cyl Corvette
6 with PG
1/4 mile 18 Secs
0 to 60 11.0 Sec

1955 Corvette 195 HP engine and PG
Qtr mile 16.5 sec
0 to 60 8.7 sec

Then they went on to compare earlier Chevrolets they tested

1940
Qtr mile 23.2ec
0 to 60 18.8 Sec
top speed 78 mph

1951 stick
1/4 mile 21.3 Sec
0 to 60 17.8 sec
top speed 80 mph.

The above both had a 216 engine and a 4.11 rear end

1954 stick 3.70 ratio
Qtr.mile 20.4 Sec
0 to 60 15 sec
top speed 90 mph

Power Glide 1954 would be about a second longer for 1/4 mile at top speed around 94 MPH due to high lift and increase horse power and higher reving end power.

In an Australia test of a 1956 3 speed 6 cyl they had the Qtr. mile at 19.9 Sec and 95 MPH speed - 1956 stick had high lift cam

ChevGene 1934 Master sedan 1939 Master DeLuxe Town Sedan 1950 Styline DeLuxe Power Glide 1957 Nomad 283 PG 1963 Corvair Convertible


Edited by Gene_Schneider on 07-08-18 04:42 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Bel Air kiwi 
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07-09-18 08:26 PM - Post#2739517    
    In response to Sethmark

Hi Setmark, I know, I was just teasing you!.

Cheers kiwi

48 3100 RHD, 51 Deluxe 4DR RHD, 51 Bel Air parts car, 52 Bel Air P-Glide LHD. Others 23T, 32 Tudor, 58 Edsel pacer 4DR HDT, 79 F250 351C RHD. 69,70,82 Capri. No mobile, no TV, and no Jap cars.

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Sethmark 
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07-10-18 12:50 PM - Post#2739591    
    In response to Bel Air kiwi

It’s amazing how few people know it. They think a greenlight start the clock.



 
beagrizzly 
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07-12-18 08:17 AM - Post#2739777    
    In response to Sethmark

I'm going to borrow an ad for the "new" Volkswagen when it came back out.

And I quote. "0-60?......YES!"

So, I'm going to venture a YES to your question. LOL.

The older we get, the faster we were.

Griff

if you're gonna be a bear..................

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2005 Yukon XL
2007 GMC Sierra Classic 8.1
2009 Silverado
2011 Escalade ESV


 
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07-12-18 10:58 AM - Post#2739779    
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  • Sethmark Said:
It’s amazing how few people know it. They think a greenlight start the clock.


Ok, so which car wins, the one which reaches the finish line first, or the one with the lower ET?

Ray

Those who choose an automatic transmission want transportation. Those who choose a manual transmission want to drive.


 
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07-12-18 12:55 PM - Post#2739784    
    In response to raycow

First to the finish line without leaving early. If you snooze, you lose.
If you leave too soon, the red light comes on and the other guy wins, if he makes it down the track.

Dean50



 
56sedandelivery 
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07-12-18 05:01 PM - Post#2739801    
    In response to Dean50

First to cross the finish lines wins, always, UNLESS it's an Index Class or Bracket Racing where a "Dial In" is in effect. Then, it's who ever gets there first without "Breaking Out", or going quicker than you're either allowed, or the dial in you've picked. And, the quarter, or 1/8 mile, are't really 1320 feet or 660 feet; they are actually slightly shorter due to the difference in the start and finish line beam heights across the track. The tire breaks the beam at the start line; any part of the car can break the finish line beam, a bumper for instance if the car is low enough. Ever seen the little "flipper" bolted to the front axle or to the front bumper on some cars, a "beam breaker"? So, the track's "shorter" than most think it is. Having a better "Reaction Time" on the starting line than your opponent is where the "he who snoozes loses" phrase comes in. Reaction time being the amount of time it takes for the driver to react to the "green" light, AND the amount of time it takes for the car to move, without turning on the red light. Most guys don't leave on the green; they have learned where they and their car can leave relative to the yellow lights on the X-Mas tree; most try to leave when the last yellow light goes out, and before the green actually comes on; cutting a good light. It's why they say most races are won or lost on the starting line. I am Butch/56sedandelivery.




 
Sethmark 
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07-12-18 05:31 PM - Post#2739807    
    In response to raycow

  • raycow Said:
  • Sethmark Said:
It’s amazing how few people know it. They think a greenlight start the clock.


Ok, so which car wins, the one which reaches the finish line first, or the one with the lower ET?

Ray


I won. There’s only one car.........




 

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