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Username Post: Front brakes pulling        (Topic#351867)
gkralik3645 
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07-04-18 10:30 AM - Post#2738940    

I have a 63 Impala SS. A while back it started pulling to the right when I applied the brakes but not too bad. By the way I have 4 wheel factory brakes.
Now it pulls left much worse.
I just finished taking the left wheel off and examining it to see if brake fluid was on the left brake shoes. There is no sign of fluid. I also tried to wiggle the tire back and forth horizontally to see if there was any indication of worn stuff that I could easily see but the wheel didn't move a bit. The brakes are adjusted right up against the drum if that makes any difference.
Anybody got any idea what might be making it pull when brakes are applied? By the way, I don't know if it pulls right anymore since it goes left much more than it ever did right.

George




 




55Brodie 
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07-04-18 10:53 AM - Post#2738941    
    In response to gkralik3645

One possibility might be the flexible hoses deteriorating from the inside and blocking fluid from flowing to the wheel cylinder. A fairly inexpensive fix.



 
gkralik3645 
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07-04-18 01:52 PM - Post#2738950    
    In response to 55Brodie

I guess that is one easy thing to try. Will get new hoses tomorrow and work on it. Thanks for the response.

George



 
55Brodie 
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07-04-18 05:38 PM - Post#2738976    
    In response to gkralik3645

You can check the flow before you buy new hoses by cracling the bleeders and observing.



 
gkralik3645 
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07-05-18 05:21 AM - Post#2739022    
    In response to 55Brodie

ok



 
gkralik3645 
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07-05-18 08:27 AM - Post#2739039    
    In response to 55Brodie

I loosened both front bleeders and fluid ran out freely as if you were bleeding them so I don't think the hoses are deteriorated inside. Now I don't know what to think. The right brake is adjusted just a little tighter than the left but the left is the one pulling.

George



 
cowfarmer350 
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07-05-18 12:43 PM - Post#2739070    
    In response to gkralik3645

Have you checked the wheel cylinders, if they rust one side can seize and not apply equal pressure to both shoes , are the drums within max wear spec, when was the last time you did a full brake job on the car



 
gkralik3645 
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07-05-18 12:50 PM - Post#2739071    
    In response to cowfarmer350

I have not checked the wheel cylinders. I purchased the car 4 years ago. I have put only two thousand miles on it since. I can tell when I had the brake drums off that the shoes are new.
They have essentially no wear at all.

George



 
55Brodie 
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07-05-18 02:21 PM - Post#2739079    
    In response to gkralik3645

As Cowfarmer said, check for frozen wheel cylinder.



 
gkralik3645 
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07-05-18 02:57 PM - Post#2739088    
    In response to 55Brodie

If one is frozen, it would be the one not dragging, right?
That is my assumption, however that is the one dragging originally. I will check it out anyway.

George




 
Brian64SS 
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07-05-18 03:56 PM - Post#2739092    
    In response to gkralik3645

Brake fluid absorbs water and turns the insides of wheel cylinders into a gritty, sticky substance over a few years. Fluid might still flow through during bleeding but they should be rebuilt or replaced. It isn't hard to do. The rears have two small bolts from the back and the fronts have one big one above. The worst part can be getting them off the car. Heating with a torch can be needed and propane isn't usually hot enough.

Brian
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62chevy427 
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07-05-18 08:17 PM - Post#2739122    
    In response to gkralik3645

could be the wheel cylinder. it will be the one opposite the side that is pulling due to it not working as well as the other one

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models916 
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07-06-18 06:14 AM - Post#2739163    
    In response to 62chevy427

Just change the hoses.



 
69_BOWTIE 
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07-06-18 07:25 AM - Post#2739170    
    In response to models916

Take the drums off and go see if they are beyond the wear limit,happened to mine. I replace the front drums and now pulls evenly while I was there I cleaned and honed the cylinders.I had purchased brake drums from Sumitt which were Bendix brand drums. 1 drum was warped from the get go they shipped another out no problem and it was bad also finally got a good 1 and all is good now.

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Edited by 69_BOWTIE on 07-06-18 07:25 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
gkralik3645 
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07-06-18 02:25 PM - Post#2739209    
    In response to models916

I bought the hoses today. Will put them on tomorrow and hope for the best. Thanks for the help.

George



 
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07-06-18 03:06 PM - Post#2739213    
    In response to gkralik3645

If you hone the wheel cylinders, make sure to wash them thoroughly inside with dish washing liquid and to rinse in hot water. Blow dry, and then assemble with new parts dipped in either assembly lube or the brake fluid that you are using in your system. If you don't do this, will result in the new rubber cups to fail prematurely.
Cleaning with brake cleaning fluids will not remove the microscopic metal residue from the honing.

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Edited by junky on 07-06-18 03:07 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
gkralik3645 
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07-07-18 05:46 AM - Post#2739260    
    In response to junky

OK thanks.
But now I must say I am really confused. Last night our club went on a dinner cruise of about 25 miles out and 25 miles back. On the way back I had the opportunity to test my brakes several times with a few hard stops. It seems that the pulling has disappeared, at least temporarily anyway. I was driving between 60 and 70 miles an hour on my way home.
Now I am wondering if it could be related to the tires in any way. They are Hanyo or something like that, that I purchased new. They have about 500 miles on them.

George





 
gkralik3645 
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07-07-18 03:42 PM - Post#2739297    
    In response to gkralik3645

Went on another 50 mile drive today. Same speeds as last night. No brake pulling again. I asked a friend who has much more knowledge than I do and has rebuild many cars what he thought. He said probably some dust in a brake drum had hardened and now has broken loose. I can accept that as I don't have a problem any longer.
Thanks to everyone with your attempts and clues to fix my problem.

George




 




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