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Username Post: power steering conversion        (Topic#351689)
FINIS-55 
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06-22-18 11:09 AM - Post#2737923    

Hey to all, hope the weather is good for you. Been terrible here in Illinois. Bad for cruising. Anyhow I want to open a can of worms, so I am going to start with side motor mounts so I can use a manual fuel pump, then power steering and a new steering column. I have old double hump fuelie heads, so no accessories holes. Soo, new heads? See how wiggly it gets as project unfolds? If anyone has done the same and can enlighten me on this, it may help. As it stands the car is all intact and driven. So I start with the mounts which now is a Hurst saddle kit. I have an HEI ignition and no firewall clearance problems, so is the engine 3/4 inch forward with the Hurst kit or in stock position, anyone know? I notice mount kits with each position noted based on the HEI. Lets start here. Do I get the mount for the 3/4 inch forward or stock?



Edited by FINIS-55 on 06-22-18 11:21 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 

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raycow 
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06-22-18 01:28 PM - Post#2737932    
    In response to FINIS-55

With the Hurst mount, you can put the engine almost anywhere you want as long as you aren't using the stock bellhousing mounts, so the Hurst mount doesn't really tell you anything. However, if you have a big cap HEI with no firewall clearance issues, there is a good chance the engine has been moved forward. Lastly, if you know what the stock front mounts on a tri-five look like, you could check how where the engine is sitting relative to the holes in the crossmember. You want to check the rear set of holes because the front ones are for a 235.

If you plan on keeping your present transmission, or at least using one the same length, measure the present engine location against some fixed reference point. Then install your side mounts to put the engine in the same place. That way, you won't have to do anything to the driveshaft or rear mount.

There is no need to have holes in your heads if you want to mount a PS pump. The holes didn't start until about 68 or 69. Just look at a 60-67 engine to see how the pump was mounted and use those parts. 55-59 drove the pump off the back of the generator, so you could use that setup too if you haven't converted to an alternator.

Ray

Those who choose an automatic transmission want transportation. Those who choose a manual transmission want to drive.


 
FINIS-55 
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06-22-18 02:06 PM - Post#2737933    
    In response to raycow

Thanks for the note. I want to make sure the engine is forward before I buy side mounts as there are two designs, stock and forward locations. Could use any measurement off a stock car, with a V-8, to see where my engine sits. Like from here to there somewhere or other off the frame or motor. Now find a stock 55. Right.



 
Bad56Sedan 
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06-22-18 04:59 PM - Post#2737941    
    In response to FINIS-55

Why the Hurst company did not make that "cradle", motor plate so you could use a mechanical pump I never undestood.
Although the design of the plate did not look like a relief could not have been made for a mechanical pump.
When I put that engine plate cradle in my '56 the engine was in the stock position.
I used the trans side mounts to keep the block where I wanted it so I could drill the holes or mark the frame for the 2 "C" shaped steel mounts that bolted to the front frame cross member. These trans side mounts were after market.
What I did when I switched to side mounts for the engine block, I left the cradle in place, mocked the side mounts with the motor mounts to the frame and engine block. It seems the side mounts I bought had holes in them to bolt to the frame.
Somehow I drilled holes and bolted them to the frame, pulled the block and welded them to the frame.
Naturally the "doghouse" was sitting on the other side of the garage, this made it much easier.
One thing leads to another then I wanted power steering.

VC56S 2 door Sedan, 38 Years



 
Bad56Sedan 
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06-22-18 05:09 PM - Post#2737943    
    In response to Bad56Sedan

Another idea to find where your block is would be to support the engine, pull the hurst cradle and put the front engine mount cups and pegs back in, that would tell you where you are.
The more forward the engine makes connections to the mechanical pump not so much fun, just a thought.

VC56S 2 door Sedan, 38 Years



Edited by Bad56Sedan on 06-22-18 05:14 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 

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