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Username Post: Bleeding my brakes.        (Topic#351610)
MINIGUN 
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06-17-18 05:04 PM - Post#2737300    

I have a 1970, 350, 4-speed, 4x4, 1/2 ton short bed step side, all manual truck. Just put in new suspension and new extended brake hoses. fluid flows freely down new hoses to the wheel cylinders. For the life of me, I can not get the fluid to go into the wheel cylinders and come out the bleeders. I remember in the past they only needed to gravity bleed. The drums lock up when you apply the brakes, so something is moving in there. Have my son pump up the brakes, I open the bleeder and nothing? Frustrated to say the least.

THX.



 
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06-18-18 04:20 AM - Post#2737330    
    In response to MINIGUN

Welcome to Chevy Talk from West Michigan!

Bleeding brakes can be a challenge at times!

I assume the bleeders are not plugged and I assumed that you bench bled the master cylinder so I would start with the proportioning valve and bleed both ends. From there I would lock the valve open for the rear and bleed the rear first. Hopefully gravity bleeding will work. Once the rear is done, lock the front and bleed the front brakes.

I don't understand why gravity bleeding did not work for you on all four wheels, but I wonder if you gave it enough time. Is the master cylinder new? It is rare but sometimes master cylinders have problems.

Good luck and stay patient!

Jim

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06-18-18 08:41 AM - Post#2737359    
    In response to MINIGUN

Welcome to ChevyTalk.

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MINIGUN 
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06-19-18 05:10 PM - Post#2737580    
    In response to JimKshortstep4x4

I'll start over again and bleed the master cylinder. It is the old one, might even be the original. My dad took good care of the truck. He generally used rebuild kits. So hopefully this weekend.

Thx



 
Andy4639 
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06-20-18 07:37 AM - Post#2737658    
    In response to MINIGUN

Take the hoses loose at the backing plates and push the brake pedal. That will tell you if your getting fluid to the wheel. Take one loose at a time and try it.
Did you buy new wheel cylinders? You may have trash in them. You may also have air in the system.



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Edited by Andy4639 on 06-20-18 07:38 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
bry593 
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07-13-18 10:42 AM - Post#2739859    
    In response to Andy4639

First thing to do is remove the bleeder valve completely and observe if fluid begins to leak out. It should definitely gravity flow out unless you have a restriction between the master and wheel cylinder. Most likely, the hole in your bleeder valve is rusted shut. Pretty common. When you have that bleeder valve out, see if you can blow through it.



 
Mercedes 
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08-12-18 02:06 PM - Post#2742861    
    In response to MINIGUN

In my experience, the best way to bleed air from brake systems is to first make sure that you properly bench-bleed the master cylinder. This step is very important.

Next, I vacuum bleed the system starting with the wheel furthest away, then closer, etc. You need to keep the reservoir full as you do this.

Vacuum bleeding is the easiest way to get the fluid to come through.

Wrap all of the threads on the bleeder screws with teflon tape to avoid sucking air around the threads.



 
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