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Username Post: 1946 Chevy 1/2 Ton        (Topic#350014)
Keith_Knox 
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03-08-18 11:43 PM - Post#2726961    

I am correct that in order to change out the battery, that you have to remove the rubber floor mat and then the floor pan.
Has anyone modified the floor pan to remove the battery?

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RAM_51 
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03-10-18 11:31 AM - Post#2727122    
    In response to Keith_Knox

Keith, isn't there a cover plate in the floor pan to access the battery? Group 16.547 COVER in the illustration below.



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Keith_Knox 
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03-10-18 03:09 PM - Post#2727139    
    In response to RAM_51

That cover only covers the battery caps, for adding water to the battery. You have to remove the complete floor pan to change out the battery. Will post a picture once it stops raining.

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03-10-18 03:52 PM - Post#2727142    
    In response to Keith_Knox

Caps only...Wow! Does it maybe slide out from below?

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Keith_Knox 
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03-10-18 07:08 PM - Post#2727155    
    In response to RAM_51

I don't think it can, but will have to check. The battery in there is okay, but I want to be ready when it does quit.

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Bel Air kiwi 
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03-11-18 08:38 PM - Post#2727255    
    In response to Keith_Knox

Hi Keith, sorry I only have an AD model. That has what looks like a bigger door. But it's still not easy to lift out without a handle on the battery.
The actual battery box bolts onto the chassis on mine but you probably need the battery out to remove it.
Hard to imagine they built them without a serviceable battery access.

If you want to change yours the AD lid is a cheap repro available all over.

Cheers Kiwi

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Edited by Bel Air kiwi on 03-11-18 08:40 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Keith_Knox 
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03-11-18 11:35 PM - Post#2727270    
    In response to Bel Air kiwi

I think I am going to make a cut where that dip is in the floor pan and then make that into a door and screw it in. That way there is plenty of room to access the battery. The way it is you cannot even remove the cables. Got some pictures today, but will post them tomorrow as it is time to get to bed.

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Keith_Knox 
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03-12-18 09:47 PM - Post#2727408    
    In response to Keith_Knox

Pictures of floor pan and battery from underneath. Looks like it needs a battery box.

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1962 Ranchero Purchased 4/2017 221 V8 Auto. Sold 9/20/18
2013 F150


 
RAM_51 
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03-13-18 03:31 PM - Post#2727496    
    In response to Keith_Knox

Wow...not a very friendly design. Bel Air kiwi mentioned the access door in the Advanced Design 47-55 trucks. It does offer a lot more room to do everything that you'd need to do with the battery to include installation and removal. If you had room to install that in your truck it would make a much nicer alteration. My battery access door measures 9 1/4" X 12 1/2". It would be a matter of cutting the opening out of one of the AD trucks and welding it into your floor...IF room allows.

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'51 Styleline Special BUSINESS COUPE (Shadow Gray)
'53 6500 Dump Bed (Oxidized Red)
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Keith_Knox 
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03-13-18 09:26 PM - Post#2727526    
    In response to RAM_51

I had some folks on another site said to leave it stock. I figured I could make one cut across it and then us the cut piece to make a screw in door. I did see on utube, a 46 with a battery box under the hood on the firewall, drivers side. I don't have access to my pickup right now, but will check it our.

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1962 Ranchero Purchased 4/2017 221 V8 Auto. Sold 9/20/18
2013 F150


 
Bel Air kiwi 
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03-14-18 05:20 AM - Post#2727548    
    In response to Keith_Knox

Hi Keith, If that larger floor panel doesn't come out then I would tend to go with a firewall side battery box if you are also going 12V.

The aftermarket AD piece will bolt onto a flat, or near flat panel. It is between $40.00 to $50.00 and the hold down frame another $20.00.

If you put this on the passenger side firewall you are close to the starter and it will look factory to most folk. I would put big washers or plates on the inside so it didn't tear the firewall.

I would also powder coat or two pack the parts to avoid acid deterioration. I would also use nylon washers/spacers to hold it off the firewall so when you hose it down it clears all the residue.

Cheers Kiwi

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Edited by Bel Air kiwi on 03-14-18 05:27 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
RAM_51 
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03-14-18 06:44 AM - Post#2727558    
    In response to Keith_Knox

  • Keith_Knox Said:
I had some folks on another site said to leave it stock.


I am one of those "stock" guys too so I understand folks saying that. Another alternative would be fabricating or finding a separate floor, putting an access whole and lid in that one and keeping the original floor. There is an original on eBay now...[see below]... and they seem to make re-pops of these as well. I know! I know! A simple fix is getting more and more expensive!



LINK:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1941-1942-1946-Ch evy-GMC-...



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03-14-18 09:30 AM - Post#2727574    
    In response to RAM_51

Brothers Trucks Maybe something like these drop-down trays could be adapted. Searcyh DDBT059

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Bel Air kiwi 
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03-17-18 08:09 AM - Post#2727927    
    In response to RAM_51

Hi Guys, if the whole floor comes out without moving the seat then just fix the battery box and use sealed batteries. Most new ones are anyway.

I guess that might not be the case if you stay 6V

Cheers Kiwi

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Keith_Knox 
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03-17-18 09:34 AM - Post#2727934    
    In response to monty56

Never thought of that.

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Keith_Knox 
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03-17-18 09:36 AM - Post#2727935    
    In response to Bel Air kiwi

Looks like the floor comes out, but after you pull the rubber mat and maybe pulling the gear shift lever on the transmission. Don't want to tear the mat.

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1948 Chevy Fleetmaster Coupe Purchased 6/2010. Stock with rebuilt 52 216 installed May 1966.
1946 Chevy 1/2 ton pickup, stock. Purchased 11/18/17.
1962 Ranchero Purchased 4/2017 221 V8 Auto. Sold 9/20/18
2013 F150


 
Bel Air kiwi 
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03-26-18 01:45 PM - Post#2729016    
    In response to Keith_Knox

Hi Keith, how does the factory battery box attach to the frame? Are they made aftermarket? Can you fit in a latter one where it is.

Cheers Kiwi

48 3100 RHD, 51 Deluxe 4DR RHD, 51 Bel Air parts car, 52 Bel Air P-Glide LHD. Others 23T, 32 Tudor, 58 Edsel pacer 4DR HDT, 79 F250 351C RHD. 69,70,82 Capri. No mobile, no TV, and no Jap cars.

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