Gain extra benefits by becoming a Supporting Member Click here find out how!

Classic Performance Products Nu-Relics Power Windows
American Auto Wire Hellwig Products IncPerformance Rod & Custom
Danchuk Catalog





 Page 11 of 11 « First<891011
Username Post: Tommy49's 1949 Deluxe Sport Coupe        (Topic#349880)
johnwd98 
Contributor
Posts: 549
johnwd98
Age: 71
Loc: Little Falls, MN
Reg: 09-05-10
05-02-21 04:19 AM - Post#2819136    
    In response to tommy49

Just a heads up when you get that far in your build, vehicle speed signal for the C/C module has to come from somewhere, hopefully from your pcm, that will simplify things. my best guess is to follow the vss wires from the trans to see where they go. The other thing to consider is tire diameter. Some difference from the donor truck to your car will have little or no effect on the C/C.

1950 Fleetline, 355 TBI, mild cam, 700R4, 3.73 posi rear Blazer axle, MII front. P/W, Remote door and trunk locks, GM cruise control, A/C.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54237519@N00/a lbums


 




tommy49 
"7th Year" Silver Supporting Member
Posts: 3146
tommy49
Loc: Kaleva, Michigan
Reg: 09-28-12
05-02-21 11:48 AM - Post#2819161    
    In response to johnwd98

The vss signal comes from the trans. Programming for tire size & gear ratio is on my list of items for my programmer. I have a whole list of add & delete questions for him.

Tommy

49 Deluxe Sport Coupe, 4.8/4L60E swap in progress, MII IFS, Blazer rear axle, 4 wheel power disc brakes, power steering, air conditioning.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/tommyfortynine /album...




 
johnwd98 
Contributor
Posts: 549
johnwd98
Age: 71
Loc: Little Falls, MN
Reg: 09-05-10
05-03-21 04:34 AM - Post#2819192    
    In response to tommy49

Ok, good, sounds like you already have done some research on that. Hope it all works out well.

1950 Fleetline, 355 TBI, mild cam, 700R4, 3.73 posi rear Blazer axle, MII front. P/W, Remote door and trunk locks, GM cruise control, A/C.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54237519@N00/a lbums


 
tommy49 
"7th Year" Silver Supporting Member
Posts: 3146
tommy49
Loc: Kaleva, Michigan
Reg: 09-28-12
05-03-21 07:52 AM - Post#2819203    
    In response to johnwd98

Most of my online time is research, probably why I'm not one to post questions. Research helps me weed out the useful and the bs.

Tommy

49 Deluxe Sport Coupe, 4.8/4L60E swap in progress, MII IFS, Blazer rear axle, 4 wheel power disc brakes, power steering, air conditioning.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/tommyfortynine /album...




Edited by tommy49 on 05-03-21 07:53 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
tommy49 
"7th Year" Silver Supporting Member
Posts: 3146
tommy49
Loc: Kaleva, Michigan
Reg: 09-28-12
05-27-21 04:29 AM - Post#2820623    
    In response to tommy49

Been busy on the dash, wiring the cruise control module, cruise control switch, new cluster, added some relays, and doing some rework. Finally got the dash assembled. it was easier to do the wiring with all the trim off. Still have the heater control to put in.









Attachment: dash_assembled_1.JPG (157.61 KB) 7 View(s)
Attachment: dash_assembled_2.JPG (156.83 KB) 4 View(s)
Attachment: dash_assembled_3.JPG (157.17 KB) 6 View(s)

Tommy

49 Deluxe Sport Coupe, 4.8/4L60E swap in progress, MII IFS, Blazer rear axle, 4 wheel power disc brakes, power steering, air conditioning.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/tommyfortynine /album...




 
tommy49 
"7th Year" Silver Supporting Member
Posts: 3146
tommy49
Loc: Kaleva, Michigan
Reg: 09-28-12
05-27-21 04:52 AM - Post#2820624    
    In response to tommy49

I'm using the cruise control module from my 2001 Sierra donor truck and wanted to use the Ididit cruise control switch with my Ididit column. The column switch is made by Rostra and is only wired to work with the Rostra/Ididit cruise control. However, a crafty builder, Ackattack, at http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php?... came up with a solution using 2 relays, so, that's the way I went. To simplify the wiring, I used the same color code wires from the donor truck. Now my cruise control wiring matches the donor truck schematics.The column wiring is all that's left to do and I'm waiting for a new connector for the column. That's supposed to be here today. The one from Ididit wasn't going to work for me.









Attachment: _relays_for_rostra_3020_cruise_switch.JPG (155.01 KB) 3 View(s)
Attachment: fuse_block___relays.JPG (158.93 KB) 4 View(s)

Tommy

49 Deluxe Sport Coupe, 4.8/4L60E swap in progress, MII IFS, Blazer rear axle, 4 wheel power disc brakes, power steering, air conditioning.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/tommyfortynine /album...




Edited by tommy49 on 05-28-21 04:29 AM. Reason for edit: wrong forum given and give credit to Ackattack.

 
Franks_Old_53 
"3rd Year" Silver Supporting Member
Posts: 119
Franks_Old_53
Loc: Atlanta, GA, USA
Reg: 11-16-02
05-31-21 10:39 AM - Post#2820898    
    In response to tommy49

Tommy - I just read back through the whole string and, WOW, you've done some incredible work! I'm totally copying you on your routing for the HVAC lines, and if my MII steering is awry, I'll copy the notch that you put in your frame.

Again - AWESOME work on the car! I'm looking forward to the next installment!

David

Accountant by profession, wanna-be car restorer by choice

Rebuilding my Granddad's 1953 Chevy 150 https://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/showtopic.php?t...


 
johnwd98 
Contributor
Posts: 549
johnwd98
Age: 71
Loc: Little Falls, MN
Reg: 09-05-10
06-01-21 04:48 AM - Post#2820940    
    In response to tommy49

That's interesting that you had to use two relays to make your GM cruise module work with a Rostra switch. The first post in the link you provided explains it. Internet research can be very helpful! I wonder how much time doing that research saved you, not to mention the headaches that might have occurred trying to figure it out on your own.

1950 Fleetline, 355 TBI, mild cam, 700R4, 3.73 posi rear Blazer axle, MII front. P/W, Remote door and trunk locks, GM cruise control, A/C.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54237519@N00/a lbums


 
tommy49 
"7th Year" Silver Supporting Member
Posts: 3146
tommy49
Loc: Kaleva, Michigan
Reg: 09-28-12
06-01-21 05:52 AM - Post#2820946    
    In response to Franks_Old_53

Thank you, David! Using the cardboard firewall mockup was the best way to do the hoses. I did have to cut & tig a hose fitting to get the angle I needed. Doing the lines from the condenser & compressor to the firewall will be an adventure! I bought extra hard lines, a tube bender, and low temp aluminum brazing rods for that project. I'm waiting for a new steering column boot, so today is engine & trans cleaning day! Going to carry them out with the tractor and maybe powerwash them.


Tommy

49 Deluxe Sport Coupe, 4.8/4L60E swap in progress, MII IFS, Blazer rear axle, 4 wheel power disc brakes, power steering, air conditioning.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/tommyfortynine /album...




 
tommy49 
"7th Year" Silver Supporting Member
Posts: 3146
tommy49
Loc: Kaleva, Michigan
Reg: 09-28-12
06-06-21 08:56 AM - Post#2821215    
    In response to tommy49

Been held up on finishing the dash wiring & column install because I didn't have a column firewall seal. It's an Ididit column, modified by Walton Fabrication, to use existing firewall holes, but Walton doesn't have a seal for it. So, after months of searching, I bought a cheap 69-70 Mustang seal off Ebay, spent 15 minutes to fit & trim, and done. No firewall rework required!













Attachment: 69-70_mustang_column_seal_1.JPG (166.76 KB) 2 View(s)
Attachment: 69-70_mustang_column_seal_2.JPG (166.24 KB) 1 View(s)
Attachment: 69-70_mustang_column_seal_3.JPG (171.19 KB) 2 View(s)
Attachment: 69-70_mustang_column_seal_4.JPG (167.35 KB) 1 View(s)
Attachment: 69-70_mustang_column_seal_5.JPG (164.1 KB) 1 View(s)

Tommy

49 Deluxe Sport Coupe, 4.8/4L60E swap in progress, MII IFS, Blazer rear axle, 4 wheel power disc brakes, power steering, air conditioning.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/tommyfortynine /album...




 
Mel Foye 
*VIP* Original Founding Member Group
Posts: 5152
Mel Foye
Reg: 09-29-00
06-06-21 04:58 PM - Post#2821245    
    In response to tommy49

I think Tommy that most of us that stop by just shake our heads at what you do. Unbelievable! Mel



 
tommy49 
"7th Year" Silver Supporting Member
Posts: 3146
tommy49
Loc: Kaleva, Michigan
Reg: 09-28-12
06-07-21 05:49 AM - Post#2821270    
    In response to Mel Foye

Thanks for the compliments, Mel, but you're making me ! I don't do anything different that any other builder does, find or make the parts to build your car your way. Sometimes you have to get creative and think outside the box. Like I said, this column seal took months to find the right part, but only 15 minutes to make it work. In other words, I got lucky!

Tommy

49 Deluxe Sport Coupe, 4.8/4L60E swap in progress, MII IFS, Blazer rear axle, 4 wheel power disc brakes, power steering, air conditioning.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/tommyfortynine /album...




 
tommy49 
"7th Year" Silver Supporting Member
Posts: 3146
tommy49
Loc: Kaleva, Michigan
Reg: 09-28-12
06-07-21 06:01 AM - Post#2821271    
    In response to tommy49

Just a couple of the new column.







Attachment: new_column_1.JPG (153.77 KB) 2 View(s)
Attachment: new_column_2.JPG (153.9 KB) 1 View(s)

Tommy

49 Deluxe Sport Coupe, 4.8/4L60E swap in progress, MII IFS, Blazer rear axle, 4 wheel power disc brakes, power steering, air conditioning.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/tommyfortynine /album...




 
19Chevy50 
Silver Supporting Member
Posts: 106
19Chevy50
Age: 60
Loc: Wichita, KS
Reg: 06-21-19
06-07-21 01:37 PM - Post#2821297    
    In response to tommy49

Tommy,
Looking great!!
I agree with Mel you are very skilled and creative to come up with ways to solve these puzzles.



 
tommy49 
"7th Year" Silver Supporting Member
Posts: 3146
tommy49
Loc: Kaleva, Michigan
Reg: 09-28-12
06-07-21 04:30 PM - Post#2821309    
    In response to 19Chevy50

Thanks, Jeff. The reality is, I only post the puzzle pieces that worked. Sometimes I can put hours into something, only to abandon it because it just didn't work. I just did that today on a part I put days into. It happens and you move on to another piece.

Tommy

49 Deluxe Sport Coupe, 4.8/4L60E swap in progress, MII IFS, Blazer rear axle, 4 wheel power disc brakes, power steering, air conditioning.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/tommyfortynine /album...




 
51chevy Bel-Air 
Silver Supporting Member
Posts: 12
51chevy Bel-Air
Age: 65
Loc: Delano Tennessee
Reg: 09-29-20
06-09-21 02:15 PM - Post#2821416    
    In response to raycow

Tommy I see you have a ididit steering column and you had Walton fabrication do something to the steering column? Can you tell me the part number for the column and what you had Walton fabrication to do to your column?

51 Chevy Bel-Air Carrie 9inch limited slip rear end 350 gear ratio 700 R4 Transmission 67 model 302 engine Mustang 2 independent front suspension


 
tommy49 
"7th Year" Silver Supporting Member
Posts: 3146
tommy49
Loc: Kaleva, Michigan
Reg: 09-28-12
06-09-21 03:16 PM - Post#2821419    
    In response to 51chevy Bel-Air

Walton Fab adds the firewall mounting bracket to the Ididit column, makes it easy to install. Now, there are several issues I need to mention. 1) The wiring is too short and it comes with a goofy GM connector. 2) I think the wiring exit slot is too far up the column, it's right under the bottom of the dash. I fixed these issues by adding 5" to the wires and added a Molex connector. 3) I think it's too long out of the firewall. For my application, connecting the 3 u-joint steering was tight. The problem I see will be my column shift linkage. The suppled shift bracket got tossed on the steel rack, useless for me. 4) There is no ready-made column seal available, but the 69-70 Mustang seal will work with a little trimming. All that being said, I can't say I recommend the column, but I have no experience with any other column. This is what I bought and I'm dealing with the issues. Hope this answers your concerns.

Tommy

49 Deluxe Sport Coupe, 4.8/4L60E swap in progress, MII IFS, Blazer rear axle, 4 wheel power disc brakes, power steering, air conditioning.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/tommyfortynine /album...




 
51chevy Bel-Air 
Silver Supporting Member
Posts: 12
51chevy Bel-Air
Age: 65
Loc: Delano Tennessee
Reg: 09-29-20
06-10-21 04:24 PM - Post#2821451    
    In response to tommy49

Tommy
I was thinking of using my original steering column,i think I can pull the column and the steering gear and disassemble it and remove the steering shaft and cut the worm gear from the bottom of the shaft and put a bearing in the bottom of the column to hold the shaft straight and weld a connection down to the rack and pinion I really would like to keep the original column I can add the turn signal switch to it but by having a straight shift on the column that really works well for my 700 R4 Transmission that's what I'm going to try anyway.thanks for the info I'm going to try that,if it doesn't work then I'll just have to go with
A idiot column its worthwhile I have to remove it anyway
Rick




51 Chevy Bel-Air Carrie 9inch limited slip rear end 350 gear ratio 700 R4 Transmission 67 model 302 engine Mustang 2 independent front suspension


 
tommy49 
"7th Year" Silver Supporting Member
Posts: 3146
tommy49
Loc: Kaleva, Michigan
Reg: 09-28-12
06-11-21 02:29 AM - Post#2821466    
    In response to 51chevy Bel-Air

That's doable. I believe someone in the forum did just that.

Tommy

49 Deluxe Sport Coupe, 4.8/4L60E swap in progress, MII IFS, Blazer rear axle, 4 wheel power disc brakes, power steering, air conditioning.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/tommyfortynine /album...




 
flatout 
Silver Supporting Member
Posts: 174
flatout
Loc: Idaho
Reg: 12-15-01
06-13-21 06:31 AM - Post#2821557    
    In response to tommy49

Looks great! The AC vents really blend in and look factory.



 
tommy49 
"7th Year" Silver Supporting Member
Posts: 3146
tommy49
Loc: Kaleva, Michigan
Reg: 09-28-12
06-13-21 07:34 AM - Post#2821562    
    In response to flatout

Thanks, Ken. I've been trying to keep a somewhat stock 49 look on the dash. I'm even doing a bunch of mods to the stock heater control so I can use the Vintage Air cable converters. Those replace the old wire cables and convert the heater control to digital.





Attachment: heater_control_modified_1.JPG (168.39 KB) 1 View(s)

Tommy

49 Deluxe Sport Coupe, 4.8/4L60E swap in progress, MII IFS, Blazer rear axle, 4 wheel power disc brakes, power steering, air conditioning.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/tommyfortynine /album...




 
flatout 
Silver Supporting Member
Posts: 174
flatout
Loc: Idaho
Reg: 12-15-01
06-13-21 08:10 AM - Post#2821567    
    In response to tommy49

That's a great idea.



 
johnwd98 
Contributor
Posts: 549
johnwd98
Age: 71
Loc: Little Falls, MN
Reg: 09-05-10
06-14-21 05:13 AM - Post#2821586    
    In response to tommy49

Hey, that's pretty cool. When I was building my Fleetline, I saved the old heater controls thinking that I could somehow use it again. Didn't work out that way for me. You're post with the picture showed me something new (to me). Never too old to learn, I hope.

1950 Fleetline, 355 TBI, mild cam, 700R4, 3.73 posi rear Blazer axle, MII front. P/W, Remote door and trunk locks, GM cruise control, A/C.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54237519@N00/a lbums


 
Eyetech 
Senior Member
Posts: 256
Eyetech
Loc: Finland
Reg: 11-29-01
06-14-21 07:04 AM - Post#2821592    
    In response to tommy49

How those work? Is there sliding potentiometer or what?

And all other work, what you've done, looks great!


Chevrolet '52 Custom Project Blue-Eye
Chevrolet '52 Coupe Ute Chevy Ute
Chevrolet '51 Sedan Delivery


 
tommy49 
"7th Year" Silver Supporting Member
Posts: 3146
tommy49
Loc: Kaleva, Michigan
Reg: 09-28-12
06-14-21 03:21 PM - Post#2821603    
    In response to Eyetech

Yes, they are potentiometers. They are from the Vintage Air 61-62 Impala control panel conversion kit. It took a couple mods to get the heater control to work with them, we'll see how they work in the car when calibrated. I uploaded the PDF instruction for them. I've started putting the engine & trans together, new intake hardware, sensors, a new throttle body, trying to pretty it up a bit.



Attachment: 471062.pdf (3.25 MB) 1 View(s)

Tommy

49 Deluxe Sport Coupe, 4.8/4L60E swap in progress, MII IFS, Blazer rear axle, 4 wheel power disc brakes, power steering, air conditioning.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/tommyfortynine /album...




Edited by tommy49 on 06-14-21 05:09 PM. Reason for edit: Forgot information.

 




 Page 11 of 11 « First<891011
Icon Legend Permissions Topic Options
Report Post

Quote Post

Quick Reply

Print Topic

Email Topic

14374 Views
FusionBB
FusionBB™ Version 2.1
©2003-2006 InteractivePHP, Inc.
Execution time: 0.112 seconds.   Total Queries: 25   Zlib Compression is on.
All times are (GMT -0800) Pacific. Current time is 02:21 AM
Top