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Username Post: Another attempt to be cool (fan questions)        (Topic#349862)
40grit 
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03-08-18 07:19 PM - Post#2726932    
    In response to drew1987

Agreed guys on the bumper mounting. That is the least of my worries though. If I was worried about the amount of spring I lost by modifying my bumper braces I probably wouldn't be the guy who put 100,000 miles on a motorcycle touring the country.

Where do we draw the line? Disc brakes, seat belts? air bags? modified bumper braces? Don't get me wrong. All those things have saved countless lives. Common sense safety is a good thing. I am just not willing to compromise my pleasure in life because something could happen. Life is so wonderful. I want to live it without being afraid of my shadow.

BTW, I am certainly NOT an adrenalin junkie. No bungie jumping for me. :

John

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drew1987 
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03-08-18 07:26 PM - Post#2726933    
    In response to 40grit

John,

I looked pretty deeply into old car crash safety, changing the bumper horns won’t make a difference - the 49-54 is a tin can any way you configure it. and I agree. Life is wonderful and short. I drive my 50 every chance I get. Doubt that’s going to be how I go, but if it is, so be it.

Still, eager to see how you address the bumpers. No doubt it will look stock!

Andrew D. Carapella (Drew)

'50 Deluxe 4dr v8 auto

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Edited by drew1987 on 03-08-18 07:29 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Mike JW 
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03-08-18 07:29 PM - Post#2726935    
    In response to 40grit

Keep living, I agree with you John better to look down at the flowers and not up.



 
drew1987 
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03-08-18 07:41 PM - Post#2726939    
    In response to Mike JW

Did I ever tell you guys my ‘50 saw 102mph per GPS? Had more to go but was tramping and about to throw the fan belt. That’s probably taking the aforementioned to the extreme...

Andrew D. Carapella (Drew)

'50 Deluxe 4dr v8 auto

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Bel Air kiwi 
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03-08-18 08:00 PM - Post#2726941    
    In response to drew1987

Hi Drew, there are lots of these powered toys already in the market, so for the purpose of learning coach building I would re-body an existing one. Doesn't matter if its battery or petrol. You can always throttle them down so they can grow into them.
The usual problem is the Kids grow too quick for the build time.

A jeep would be a good starter while you have limited equipment. I would be careful about roll bars for kids as if you are not strapped in with a helmet, every time, they can be more dangerous for head injuries in minor spills than not having them.

Those Auburn speedsters are already available in Glass. You would probably need to do the coachwork in aluminium if you wanted a metal one. An abandoned glass one would be a good buck.

Cheers Kiwi

48 3100 RHD, 51 Deluxe 4DR RHD, 51 Bel Air parts car, 52 Bel Air P-Glide LHD. Others 23T, 32 Tudor, 58 Edsel pacer 4DR HDT, 79 F250 351C RHD. 69,70,82 Capri. No mobile, no TV, and no Jap cars.

"They made a desert and called it peace." Tacitus


Edited by Bel Air kiwi on 03-08-18 08:01 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
40grit 
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03-08-18 09:07 PM - Post#2726948    
    In response to Bel Air kiwi

If I were going to do it, I would want to sit down and draw my own vision. Maybe a little Austin Healy with a little Jaquar 140 and scaled up just a little so it could have at least a small back seat. Even with some admitted influance, I would want it to be my creation.

Not going to happen for me. Too old, tired and most of my motivation is gone.

I am enjoying the 53 but it will be the last one I take off the frame.

John

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drew1987 
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03-09-18 05:14 AM - Post#2726965    
    In response to 40grit

Kiwi,

The helmet rule would be well enforced. I had a go kart with a roll cage and 5.5 hp mid tires and it was a blast.

The Aburn isn’t exactly what I want, but it’s kind of an inspiration. Just like John said about the jag and find A/H.

John I don’t blame you for not wanting to do any more frame-offs. That 53 easily the biggest project I’ve every seen. Good time to “flip” your way through some cars you always liked... buy, enjoy for a while, sell for more

Andrew D. Carapella (Drew)

'50 Deluxe 4dr v8 auto

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Bel Air kiwi 
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03-11-18 08:27 PM - Post#2727248    
    In response to drew1987

Hi Drew, How about doing some custom features on an existing car. Adding peaked or frenched headlights, tail light changes, different bumper and grilles, one piece hoods, raidused hood corners, frenched aerials etc. etc.

Cheers Kiwi

48 3100 RHD, 51 Deluxe 4DR RHD, 51 Bel Air parts car, 52 Bel Air P-Glide LHD. Others 23T, 32 Tudor, 58 Edsel pacer 4DR HDT, 79 F250 351C RHD. 69,70,82 Capri. No mobile, no TV, and no Jap cars.

"They made a desert and called it peace." Tacitus


 
drew1987 
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03-13-18 03:18 PM - Post#2727493    
    In response to Bel Air kiwi

Kiwi,

There is a very pretty reason, my wife. I was going to nose, deck, one piece windshield, and some other changes. She wants “our first one” to stay original in appearance

Andrew D. Carapella (Drew)

'50 Deluxe 4dr v8 auto

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Bel Air kiwi 
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03-14-18 04:54 AM - Post#2727544    
    In response to drew1987

Hi Drew, you are taking me too literally. I agree with your boss!
By existing car I didn't meant you already own it. I mean customizing a built car before attempting a full coach build.

Cheers Kiwi

48 3100 RHD, 51 Deluxe 4DR RHD, 51 Bel Air parts car, 52 Bel Air P-Glide LHD. Others 23T, 32 Tudor, 58 Edsel pacer 4DR HDT, 79 F250 351C RHD. 69,70,82 Capri. No mobile, no TV, and no Jap cars.

"They made a desert and called it peace." Tacitus


 
drew1987 
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03-14-18 05:16 AM - Post#2727546    
    In response to Bel Air kiwi

Oh. Of
Corse! I have a long way to go before I tackle a custom ground - up car

Andrew D. Carapella (Drew)

'50 Deluxe 4dr v8 auto

Member:

Rochester Street Rods - Est. 1970
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Bel Air kiwi 
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03-15-18 08:21 PM - Post#2727781    
    In response to drew1987

Hi Oldcarguy, I just re-read the post and you said you thought that the 261 cools better than the 235.
They are almost the same block but the 261 has bigger bores and extra water passages to the head. Most folks say these are to avoid steam pockets, but I can't confirm this. However they definitely need them and the correct head gasket so they work.

You will recall that this was only a passenger car engine in Canadian Pontiacs. Normally it was in mid range trucks.

From my perspective I would say the 261 needs more cooling capacity than a 235. If you use more fuel and make more power then you need proportionally more cooling.

I would figure that GM dealt with this in the truck application with larger cores designed for the potential lower road speeds of heavy trucks loaded.

A good car system in top order is probably fine for a 261, but if you pep it up it may be wise to go for a 3 row radiator.

As you have noted factory electric car fans tend to be very effective, but if you are changing from puller to pusher fan you usually need to flip the blades over and check the direction of rotation.

I did the cooling in my friends 396 powered 32 3 window coupe. I used a properly shrouded OE fan from a 1.2 L four cylinder and it more than does the job in a puller situation. It only covers the top section of the radiator like a 12" aftermarket one would, but as it has a big radiator that's all it took.

Cheers Kiwi

48 3100 RHD, 51 Deluxe 4DR RHD, 51 Bel Air parts car, 52 Bel Air P-Glide LHD. Others 23T, 32 Tudor, 58 Edsel pacer 4DR HDT, 79 F250 351C RHD. 69,70,82 Capri. No mobile, no TV, and no Jap cars.

"They made a desert and called it peace." Tacitus


Edited by Bel Air kiwi on 03-15-18 08:34 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 

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