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Username Post: Instrument Needles        (Topic#349561)
SandDabMcSkeg 
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02-07-18 07:41 PM - Post#2723701    

What color were the instrument needles and clock hands on a 51? What paint do you use to restore them, and where did you get the paint? Anyone have pictures of gages with custom colors? On my 57, they were a glow orange, really shows up at night, my 46 is original with red. I thought I heard somewhere they were a pale green? Is this right?



Edited by SandDabMcSkeg on 02-07-18 07:41 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 

RAM_51 
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02-07-18 08:07 PM - Post#2723704    
    In response to SandDabMcSkeg

  • SandDabMcSkeg Said:
I heard somewhere they were a pale green? Is this right?


Directly from the 1951 Chevrolet Engineering Features Booklet, "Pointers, graduations, and figures are a non-glaring, off-white color which has a slight green tint".


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'51 Fleetline DeLuxe 2 DOOR SEDAN (Fathom Green)
'51 Styleline Special BUSINESS COUPE (Shadow Gray)
'53 6500 Dump Bed (Oxidized Red)
'50 Styleline DeLuxe 4 DOOR SEDAN (Mist Green)


 
SandDabMcSkeg 
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02-08-18 12:40 AM - Post#2723720    
    In response to RAM_51

Thanks, that is what I had heard somewhere, now, next question, where do you get that at? Source for paint?




 
RAM_51 
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02-08-18 07:39 AM - Post#2723735    
    In response to SandDabMcSkeg

Personally, I'd go down to my local hobby shop and get some of the paint in little bottles and mix some myself. That is if you can find a "brick and mortar" hobby shop anymore..or maybe a craft outlet that sells models and supplies.



1951 Fleetline
'51 Fleetline DeLuxe 2 DOOR SEDAN (Fathom Green)
'51 Styleline Special BUSINESS COUPE (Shadow Gray)
'53 6500 Dump Bed (Oxidized Red)
'50 Styleline DeLuxe 4 DOOR SEDAN (Mist Green)


 
mahlmann 
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02-08-18 08:49 AM - Post#2723740    
    In response to SandDabMcSkeg

I've used Testors enamel for badges, ornaments, grills and hubcaps with good results. It holds up well too.

Good luck with yours!



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SandDabMcSkeg 
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02-08-18 10:02 AM - Post#2723750    
    In response to mahlmann

I used Testors as a kid building models, but there is nowhere inside of 2 hours from here that has it anymore. I guess kids don't build them anymore. It was 15 cents a bottle when I was a kid, the last I bought was just under $2. Maybe that's why they don't build models anymore, lol. So, there is no pe-mixed color anyone uses. I think I just may go the dayglow orangeish red I already have.



 
eplantage 
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02-08-18 02:45 PM - Post#2723780    
    In response to SandDabMcSkeg

The only place I've found locally that sells models and paint is Hobby Lobby. There are a few online model stores. www.shorelinehobby.com

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SandDabMcSkeg 
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02-08-18 06:46 PM - Post#2723812    
    In response to eplantage

So, in summary, there is no source for the correct pale green color. Unless you want to mix it yourself.




 
Mike JW 
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02-08-18 07:10 PM - Post#2723816    
    In response to SandDabMcSkeg

Pismo Steve has the Paint



 
Bel Air kiwi 
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02-11-18 09:14 PM - Post#2724125    
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Hi Guys, the correct source for the pale green luminous paint they used on speedometers and gauges is a nuclear facility.
From memory it was a uranium variant and you can't buy the paint anymore.
If it glows in the dark and it's green it's either a martian or radioactive.

Cheers Kiwi

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And when it was laid to waste, they called it peace.


 
RAM_51 
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02-12-18 07:42 AM - Post#2724143    
    In response to Bel Air kiwi

  • Bel Air kiwi Said:
From memory it was a uranium variant and you can't buy the paint anymore.


The engineering manual does not specify that this was luminus paint. I've had a 1951-52 clock sitting under direct light from my desk lamp and when I turn all the lights out in the room, it does not glow. I believe if it were, the half life would have not been exceeded in 67 years and It would at least give off a faint glow....none. I think I remember reading that Studebaker was doing that along with wrist watch manufactures...Chevrolet in 1951-52 with their automobile dash gauges?..no.


1951 Fleetline
'51 Fleetline DeLuxe 2 DOOR SEDAN (Fathom Green)
'51 Styleline Special BUSINESS COUPE (Shadow Gray)
'53 6500 Dump Bed (Oxidized Red)
'50 Styleline DeLuxe 4 DOOR SEDAN (Mist Green)


 
SandDabMcSkeg 
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02-12-18 10:31 AM - Post#2724150    
    In response to RAM_51

Yeah, it doesn't glow in the dark, it's just pale green paint. I wondered if anyone has a source for that color that's easy and looks good. It was not radioactive or anything.




 
SandDabMcSkeg 
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02-12-18 10:31 AM - Post#2724151    
    In response to RAM_51

Yeah, it doesn't glow in the dark, it's just pale green paint. I wondered if anyone has a source for that color that's easy and looks good. It was not radioactive or anything.




 
dsacton 
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02-12-18 06:57 PM - Post#2724193    
    In response to Bel Air kiwi

Radioluminescent paints in the 50's most-likely used Radium-226. The radium isotope has a long half-life (more than 1000 years), but it degrades the phosphorous in the dials. So it might not glow today, even though it would still be just as radioactive. I'm going to see if I can get my hands on a Geiger counter to check my dash. I can say with certainty that the numbers did not glow as early as 1979, when I got the car.

Actually, I bet 2blu remembers if these ever glowed.

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Bel Air kiwi 
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02-12-18 07:39 PM - Post#2724196    
    In response to dsacton

Hi Guys, I wasn't being serious about our cars having radioactive needles, just saying that's what the luminous ones used to be.
If your car is radioactive then chuck out your mobile phone.

The problem is if you are old enough to remember them new then you probably won't.

Cheers Kiwi




48 3100 RHD, 51 Deluxe 4DR RHD, 51 Bel Air parts car, 52 Bel Air P-Glide LHD. Others 23T, 32 Tudor, 58 Edsel pacer 4DR HDT, 79 F250 351C RHD. 69,70,82 Capri. No mobile, no TV, and no Jap cars.

And when it was laid to waste, they called it peace.


Edited by Bel Air kiwi on 02-12-18 07:40 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
SandDabMcSkeg 
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02-12-18 07:54 PM - Post#2724202    
    In response to Bel Air kiwi

After all this banter about radioactive stuff, as to my original question, it sounds as though there is nobody who knows an easy source for the pale green color, radioactive or not. It seems mix your own or use the color of your choice is the answer. So I will either go original and mix some up, or go with the 57 Chevy red/orange day glow I already have. There is a company who sells a reflective needle paint, and they have white, and they have a medium green, maybe mixing those together might be cool.




 
RAM_51 
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02-12-18 08:07 PM - Post#2724204    
    In response to dsacton

  • dsacton Said:
So it might not glow today, even though it would still be just as radioactive.


Four 51-52 Chevolet clocks in my possesion...not a single one glows or even gives off the slightest hint of a glimmer. If mixing this paint, start with the lightest color...add a small drop into the amount of white you think you will need to do the job....keep adding the darker color to the light in small amounts until you arrive at the tint that looks right. Keep in mind that the paint will usually dry just a touch darker than the mix. Let us know what you end up doing and let us all see what it looks like.


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'51 Fleetline DeLuxe 2 DOOR SEDAN (Fathom Green)
'51 Styleline Special BUSINESS COUPE (Shadow Gray)
'53 6500 Dump Bed (Oxidized Red)
'50 Styleline DeLuxe 4 DOOR SEDAN (Mist Green)


 
SandDabMcSkeg 
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02-12-18 08:43 PM - Post#2724205    
    In response to RAM_51

Will do. I need to learn how to post pix, I'd like to just post a pic of the car, it is going to be pretty nice before too long.



 
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02-12-18 10:44 PM - Post#2724217    
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Posting photos.
https://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/showtopic.php?ti...

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02-15-18 07:08 PM - Post#2724526    
    In response to SandDabMcSkeg

Give these guys a call and see if they can help you. https://www.bobsspeedometer.com/1/120/index.asp


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