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Username Post: 235 ignition        (Topic#348525)
1953 chevy 4 door sedan 
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12-03-17 10:58 AM - Post#2716741    

Hey guys I am drawing a blank on this one. I replaced the points with flame thrower electronic ignition. When I did I also replaced the coil with their coil that has the built in resister so I deleted the ballast resister that was there with the original point system. Now when I try to start the motor it wont start until I let off the start and then it will fire and run. I remember that on the original ign. system there had to be a bypass wire to the distributer to keep enough voltage to the points so that it start, and that is the way it acts now. It is my understanding that I should not need that with this electronic ign.system. I have a brand new battery that is fully charged and all connections are good. The motor runs good after it starts. Any help on this will be appreciated.



 

Shepherd 
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Reg: 11-11-15
12-03-17 11:14 AM - Post#2716742    
    In response to 1953 chevy 4 door sedan

Ballast resistor was for 12v only is your car converted? You need voltage to the Pertronix cranking and run position. Trace the original wires and find the ones that are wired like that, if you had a resistor that is where to start looking.



 
raycow 
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12-03-17 12:14 PM - Post#2716747    
    In response to 1953 chevy 4 door sedan

Check to make sure your ignition power is coming from the IGN terminal on the switch and not the ACC terminal. ACC is disabled when the switch is turned to START.

Ray

Those who choose an automatic transmission want transportation. Those who choose a manual transmission want to drive.


 
Bel Air kiwi 
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12-03-17 04:32 PM - Post#2716773    
    In response to raycow

Hi New Ray, Welcome. If your car had been converted to ballast resistor type ignition then you should have two feed wires to the coil primary power. You may even have a third wire if it has a tachometer.

When the car was built it just had ignition feed from the key on position. And no coil connection to the starter circuit. You need to take it back to this arrangement.

I would guess someone has changed this in your loom somewhere. So you are just undoing what they did.

All you need is a test light to work out which of the two feeds should be off the key and which is from the starter.
Take the supplies off the coil and see which one is live in the "on" position. Now remove the coil secondary lead so it can't start and have someone crank it over.

You want the "on" to stay live, but it sounds like yours isn't, and the one you are going to remove is the one that comes on only when cranking. You may even see it run direct down to the starter solenoid.

Remember with any electronic ignition or kit the primary draw in amps in the circuit needs to be correct. I prefer to do this by coil selection not any sort of ballasts. If you fudge this you fry it or don't get the spark you paid for.

Cheers Kiwi




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1953 chevy 4 door sedan 
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Posts: 12

Loc: mcminnville,or.
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12-03-17 05:36 PM - Post#2716783    
    In response to raycow

Bingo, you nailed it Raycow, I had the coil wire on the wrong switch terminal. Thanks a lot to you guys for the help. I sure wish that I had known about this forum over fifteen years ago when I started this project, it sure would have saved me a ton of time, sweat and probably a few of these gray hairs.



 
raycow 
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12-03-17 05:49 PM - Post#2716786    
    In response to 1953 chevy 4 door sedan

I'm glad to hear you found the problem and that it was an easy fix.

Gray hair is still better than no hair at all.

Ray

Those who choose an automatic transmission want transportation. Those who choose a manual transmission want to drive.


 
2blu52 
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12-03-17 06:59 PM - Post#2716792    
    In response to raycow

Amen to the hair thing!!

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