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Username Post: To restore or not to restore ???        (Topic#341843)
Chevelle 
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01-12-17 07:51 AM - Post#2670720    

Pretty rough shape but it is a 63 split window.
There is certainly enough to go on.
Would you ?

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I'll be happy to help just ask.

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jdk 
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01-12-17 08:45 AM - Post#2670729    
    In response to Chevelle

looks like they took the z bar. along with the vin
number. if the rear window trim is in decent shape, it is worth some cash 2k or more. jim



Edited by jdk on 01-12-17 08:46 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
TAT_2 
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01-12-17 11:43 AM - Post#2670763    
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THERES A HOLE IN THE TRUNK !!!



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01-12-17 08:23 PM - Post#2670858    
    In response to TAT_2

People have started with less. If the VIN tag us missing, that will hurt the final value, but if the block stamping matches the VIN on the frame, you have a good start. '63 SWCs are always in demand.
Ken

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grumpyvette 
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01-14-17 12:22 PM - Post#2671143    
    In response to bowtiefan

I suppose its a mater of assessing what your time is worth,and how much money and effort your willing to devote to the restoration, luckily most of the parts are available if you checking account balance can handle the financial strain, because it will take a good deal of time and effort, but it will be something rather rare and almost unique when its done IF you take the time to do it correctly and use the correct components.
if you have a garage to use while you work on the restoration, and if you realize you,ll probably need $20-$45 K in parts,(not close to concourse level but drive-able) months of detailed research, and over a year or two of devoting at least a couple nights a week too the project, and more than likely be forced to replace a great deal of the car that you currently assume is salvageable, you can and most likely will have one really nice and rather rare Corvette when its done.
or put a different way, ID start with a complete dis-assembly and parts cleaning, taking a detailed inventory and ordering every corvette related catalog, you can locate and Id certainly get 4 12 ton HF jack stands and look into a new frame and suspension.
now I've done several of these projects and at least in my case it took 2-3 years for each to complete, and be aware many vendors are under the mistaken impression that O.E.M corvette parts were all manufactured out of sterling silver or gold bullion ingots, and priced that way.
Id certainly find an original shop manual and you'll obviously be forced to learn welding body work, fiberglass , electrical interior,upholstery, paint and body and drive train restoration.

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knightfan2691 
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01-15-17 01:37 PM - Post#2671367    
    In response to TAT_2

  • TAT_2 Said:
THERES A HOLE IN THE TRUNK !!!




At least that hole isn't due to rust!?


As for whether or not to restore this ... might as well at least make an attempt.....


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vet65b 
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01-22-17 09:15 AM - Post#2672772    
    In response to Chevelle

Chevelle,
Grumpyvette gives you great advise. I have been involved in Corvette restoration as an NCRS member since 1978, done two body off restorations of my own and been involved in seven or eight for other owners.
The car you are looking at APPEARS to be a 300 horse 4-speed. It will cost just as much to restore this Corvette as it would to restore a factory fuel car in the same condition, but the fuel car when restored will have twice the value. As an NCRS member this is the sort of project I would run from because to restore this car to factory condition will take more time/money than you will ever get back.
That being said, if you have lots of skill, patience, time and money and are willing to be content with a decent driver this car might make you happy.
What is the sellers asking price? Have the VIN and TRIM tags been removed? If so this vehicle MAY have been stolen at some point in it's life. To protect yourself find and record the VIN stamped on the frame, driver side, at the kickup and at the second spot above the left tire. Take the VIN number to your local highway patrol officer and ask him to check if it has been reported stolen.
Good luck and let us know what you find! Bill



 
Tri5man 
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01-28-17 07:11 PM - Post#2674011    
    In response to vet65b

I'd be willing to bet you could buy a running driving duplicate Corvette for what you'd spend on a restoration. There's not enough there for me to restore. Like Clint Eastwood says "a mans got to know his limitation".

Gary



 
skunk22 
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02-05-17 12:32 PM - Post#2675315    
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Chevelle If you considering selling I might be a buyer. I need a long term project.
David
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Edited by skunk22 on 02-05-17 12:32 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
stingray caretaker 
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02-11-17 08:41 AM - Post#2676265    
    In response to vet65b

  • vet65b Said:
Chevelle,
Grumpyvette gives you great advise. I have been involved in Corvette restoration as an NCRS member since 1978, done two body off restorations of my own and been involved in seven or eight for other owners.
The car you are looking at APPEARS to be a 300 horse 4-speed. It will cost just as much to restore this Corvette as it would to restore a factory fuel car in the same condition, but the fuel car when restored will have twice the value. As an NCRS member this is the sort of project I would run from because to restore this car to factory condition will take more time/money than you will ever get back.
That being said, if you have lots of skill, patience, time and money and are willing to be content with a decent driver this car might make you happy.
What is the sellers asking price? Have the VIN and TRIM tags been removed? If so this vehicle MAY have been stolen at some point in it's life. To protect yourself find and record the VIN stamped on the frame, driver side, at the kickup and at the second spot above the left tire. Take the VIN number to your local highway patrol officer and ask him to check if it has been reported stolen.
Good luck and let us know what you find! Bill



Why would anyone get involved in a nut & bolt NCRS restoration ? When your done you have spent twice as much as a normal rebuild using " driver " parts with the same results. Oh, I forgot. They give you a piece of paper ( for judging fees around $300.+ ) and a ego pin you can delight your friends with. The same body on a restomod frame will bring fifty percent more than stock plus be trouble free transport with great mileage.

Back at the picture. Is it worth a rebuild ? Depends on how high the stack of money is involved. If you can buy it for 30k or less yes. Strip the parts, clean and bag them, add a nose section, and park it in the garage. Your ego is appeased, you own a split window coupe. Now add a lawn chair, some Jan & Dean 60s music, crack open a quality beverage, and wait for the next fool. No doubt someone will offer you 10k more in less than five years. Mean while you have a car cover everyone wants to view assisted by a couple wall posters for advertising. Word spreads quickly and your the home town hero.

Value vs missing parts. It appears the rear window trim is missing. Hard to tell by the picture but if it is add 6 to 10K for a replacement set. Inside window frames are also a couple grand. The missing Z bar and ID plates will be hard to replace. The above listed items will subtract 20-25k in value when completed. Frames are easy to come by. Add additional body supports to later model replacements. The driver door appears to show movement from the crash back from the cowl. A serious repair done by an experienced technician preferred to make the door fit properly. Matching engine numbers mean little as the VIN is missing. No build sequence to compare it to.

A car in this condition has a 90% failure rate. Magazine articles will show a vehicle in this condition now an award winner. They fail to mention the total investment in labor, parts, and materials far beyond a common owners reach.
I look forward to the Cinderella story of this forgotten treasure to a diamond. I prefer my two complete examples at the cost of the replacement rear window stainless. Three decades past, cheap drivers. Today a Craig's List jewel if located.



 




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