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Username Post: Mini tubs        (Topic#340191)
Bad56Sedan 
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10-27-16 02:25 PM - Post#2658664    

First off I want to thank MP and C for the inspiration, the pics he posts, the what ever it is that gives us novice folks the inspiration to attempt theses jobs, not really jobs but ah, what ever...........
So here it is...........

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10-27-16 02:29 PM - Post#2658666    
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The thing is, you can do it, it does take time..........

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10-27-16 05:07 PM - Post#2658706    
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Looks like your doing a very nice job on it, thanks for the photos.



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10-28-16 01:28 PM - Post#2658847    
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My problem is I'm not a meterolgist or a geologist, so I added possibly over kill braces, I guess I should have taken art instead of wood shop .........

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Bad56Sedan 
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11-28-16 04:08 PM - Post#2663616    
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Passenger side completed, look like on my car I will have
15 1/4" on each side.
Moving on to finish driver side.
C25 bottle refilled.
Driver side welded in.
Looks better than the passengers side.
Pic of the 15 1/4" on passenger side.


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11-29-16 06:06 AM - Post#2663700    
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Nice job, looks good.

Phil

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12-02-16 11:48 AM - Post#2664230    
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Driver side mini tub completed.
And as I said it does look better than the passenger side, why?
Easy part done, although it was a lot of dot 4-5 second welding.
I surprised my self, started out 4 or 5 out of 15 spot welds were terrible, finally 1 out of 15.
Moving car over in the "shop" (2 car garage) to pull rear 10 bolt 8.5 " axle.
This axle is from a 1979 camaro, drum to drum it is 61 3/8".
My guess it to take 2 1/2" from each side, this will bring the outer part of the drums to 56 3/8".
This will center the outer drum flange in the middle of the
15 1/4" between the frame and the fender lip.
So I'm asking is this what I want to concidering the wheels that are out there?
I'm thinking 15x10, 5" back spacing and 305/15/50 tires?
Well?


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55DRIVER 
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12-02-16 05:28 PM - Post#2664271    
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Well, what pro streeters learned long ago is to buy the wheel tire combo of your dreams first, set them under the car where you want them, then measure the distance between to determine the width of the axle brake assy. you want to use.



 
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12-03-16 09:12 PM - Post#2664478    
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Nice looking work, thanks for the phoťos! I enjoy seeing them.


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02-17-17 11:26 AM - Post#2677145    
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Hi,
I did the same thing with my 57 using a 79 Z28 disc brake rear end. However I didn't narrow the rear end, I just used some very offset wheels. My 57 is mini-tubbed and spring pocketed(is that a word?)and I used 15x10 Draglites with 71/2 inches of backspace. That centered the wheel pretty well in the wheelwell for my 325/50/15 Hoosiers. As you can see you could actually get a little bigger tire in there if you squeezed.
Rick





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03-04-17 03:30 PM - Post#2679697    
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Thanks for the pics, they are worth gold.
Finally got what I figured was the hardest part done, a pocket.
First off thanks to several folks on here! Knowledge here is worth that gold.
I have finally got one pocket done and I am current working on the rear hanger part.
Lot of things get you side tracked with this hobby.
Any way here's a pic of the pocket,
I am not related to Chip Foose by a long shot!

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03-25-17 04:05 PM - Post#2683286    
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Update, finally got the spring hanger welded on top of the frame and the frame notch welded in, need to clean up welds.
Had to remove the gas tank and cut a hole in the trunk floor.
It is looking good, cutting the frame notch I could see the welds had penetrated the frame for the shackle hanger.
Now to move to the passenger side.



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Bad56Sedan 
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03-26-17 09:28 AM - Post#2683421    
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There really is more to the story as to simply mini tubbing your car.
What you find is things really don't fit like the instructions say.
Conferring with others is the key to get the project moving.
Does the pocket really fit in a 2 piece frame?
Does the front outer spring hanger need to be removed?
The rear spring shackle part is not really for a 2 piece frame, it must be modified.
A 2 piece frame is not wide enough for the pocket.
The rear notch fits inside the frame but is not wide enough in the back?
Although a 2 piece frame is tapered it is too wide for the notch reinforcement piece in the back.
Do I need to cut 2 holes in the trunk?
Do I need to center the gas tank?
Is welding overhead fun?
What is a roller ball weld?
Is it really that hot?
The you have to ask yourself , "Do I have the guts to start cutting up my car?"
All I can say is I am almost done, is all this worth being able to run 325/15/50's on the back?
damm right it is!
Thanks to everyone I talked to on CT.
thanks to the folks at WCCW, they will answer any question 3 years after the sale, what more could you ask for.
I can hardly wait to order the 15x10 ET Mags like Ptjsk has on the back of his '55 Nomad.
Pics a sap.


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03-28-17 10:25 AM - Post#2683831    
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Well, it took me a while to get this far.
One thing leads to another, blast this part, prime and paint.
One side is done.


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09-17-17 03:33 PM - Post#2707935    
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I took this 1979 10 bolt to the local rear axle boutique and had it narrowed.
Funny thing they asked me several times , "disc or drum?".
It is narrowed to 56" outside of the drums, DRUM TO DRUM, not the axle flanges!
Blasted, primed, painted and some POR15,
its beautiful piece.
Time to install and make measurements for rear wheels and tires.


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10-13-17 06:35 AM - Post#2710723    
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Kool!

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Bad56Sedan 
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01-25-18 12:16 PM - Post#2722105    
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Just got back from Competion Sales,
AR 15 X 10, 5" back spacing
MT 28 X 12 X 15 LT
Killer................
I did it.............. Priceless!




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02-01-18 08:59 AM - Post#2722981    
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Congrats - It looks great. That is quite the accomplishment

You are definitely more ambitious than I am. I swapped my original rear for a 70 Camaro 12 bolt posi a few years back. (In my unheated garage @ 5 below zero.) Even in the Summer, I don't think I could convince myself to begin cutting..


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02-01-18 08:04 PM - Post#2723041    
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TY, TY, TY!
It does take guts to start cutting your car up.
The wheel tub part was not bad, I had made lots of thin sheet metal welds.
The point of no return is cutting off the front spring hanger, the whole time I was thinking "if this don't work, this will get expensive to fix now".
I am not a welder, I finally figured I passed sledge hammer test on thicker material.
I knew welding the pocket in was going to be the make or break on the job.
The rear shakle part was much easier, but I had to cut holes in the trunk floor.
There is still more details to the story, I had been thinking about doing this for years.
I spent more time trying to figure out how to get around the welding than the time to do it, but there was no way around it.
I hate to brag, but geez this thing is tough looking.
I can still say that after having this car since 1980.


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Bad56Sedan 
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02-02-18 02:01 PM - Post#2723109    
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One more,



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ROUTE 55 
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02-03-18 03:16 PM - Post#2723213    
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Yeah, that really does look cool.

My 255s on 8" wheels look a little puny in comparison.
I think you'll enjoy the heck out of 'em. I know I would.

Dave


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09-08-18 04:43 PM - Post#2745682    
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well she rolls,
and roll she does,
this project took a long time but ole chip is back on the road,
28-12-15 on 10" American Racing rims with 5" back spacing, 1979 Camaro 8.5" rear axle narrow to 56",
OUTER DRUM TO DRUM,
finally took ole chip out, she got some sunshine,
a few issues getting her back on the road,
she ran good, and she looks kick ssa,
she took a few full throttle nails and the amateur welds held, they look good,
they don't look like I did them,
I have had this '56 since 1980 and this thing looks kick ssa!
guess what, here is a pic!




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09-10-18 01:31 AM - Post#2745772    
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Very nice looking. Thanks for the photo. Any plans to take it to the track?



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09-10-18 07:44 AM - Post#2745798    
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Very nice, thanks for posting...
Now I have to get back on mine !!



 
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09-10-18 07:52 AM - Post#2745800    
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I like how your car sits. I give it .

The older I get, the more dangerous, I am !!!!


 
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09-18-18 08:28 AM - Post#2746534    
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Great job, car looks good.

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09-19-18 06:28 AM - Post#2746650    
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Great job and fantastic look. I have my kit and I’m just waiting for the time to install.

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11-28-18 05:06 PM - Post#2752725    
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Nice job! You should be proud. I will say when I did mine I really wish I had cut my rear axle shorter as there is so much more room to spare on the inside. Also with the car dropped like mine I wish I had bent the forward part of the rear hanger cutout about 5-10 degrees to the front because on some bumps my spring rubs. The cure of course is to raise it up .25-.5" and make up some longer shackles. Hmmm, nope!

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11-28-18 08:12 PM - Post#2752740    
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I just want to say thanks to CT, the posters at CT,
and the folks at WCCW.
The information was the key.


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12-05-18 05:23 PM - Post#2753530    
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"naturally there is more to just mini tubbing your car"
Back seat modifications to fit the tubs.
Several methods, several ways to do it.
upper part of the back seat has to have extra braces welded in.
Rear seat cushion can be done without welding or adding extra rods, first pic is original, second is modified
Here's how I did it:



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