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Username Post: Ruth's "Daily Driver" BB El Camino        (Topic#333982)
BBLemond 
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03-15-16 03:49 PM - Post#2615607    

Hey Everyone, This is my wifes 1964 El Camino that Im building for her. I got a pretty good deal on it and am pretty excited to take it apart. I have a big block for it and also a 4 speed so it should be a fun truck to drive if I can keep the tires under it




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BBLemond 
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03-15-16 03:56 PM - Post#2615609    
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A friend of mine loaned me his rotiserie but it had small casters on it and since its gonna be in a back yard on gravel until it goes to the paint shop I needed to beef it up a bit. I put larger casters on it with "off road tires"and spread the arms out so it would be more stable


I got the body off today. Im lucky enough to have a friend with a lift whos also letting me do the pre paint shop work in his back yard shop and yard. This would have been really difficult without a lift.




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DonSSDD 
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03-17-16 05:15 AM - Post#2615919    
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Old car people with projects like that are optimists, they can look at a car/truck in that condition and see their wife driving it. Keep moving forward on your project and keep up the optimism, it what gets you up in the morning.

One piece of advice, put a clutch in it. You'll get comments like- its an El Camino, its a woman in an El Camino, its a big block, its a 4 speed.......... And if she doesn't drive a clutch, she will never regret learning.

Thanks for the pics, keep them coming.

Don

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BBLemond 
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03-17-16 04:40 PM - Post#2616035    
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  • DonSSDD Said:
Old car people with projects like that are optimists, they can look at a car/truck in that condition and see their wife driving it. Keep moving forward on your project and keep up the optimism, it what gets you up in the morning.

One piece of advice, put a clutch in it. You'll get comments like- its an El Camino, its a woman in an El Camino, its a big block, its a 4 speed.......... And if she doesn't drive a clutch, she will never regret learning.

Thanks for the pics, keep them coming.

Don



Did I not mention it will be a 4 speed car? I have a bunch of Ford longs pressure plates floating around so Im thinking Im gonna use what I have and put a rag disc in it. Will have to see though. I know theres a lot of clutches now that hold really well while being lighter on the foot so that might have to be the way to go so she can drive it easier



 
BBLemond 
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03-17-16 04:47 PM - Post#2616042    
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So I got here on the rotiserie and she's pretty rough. Im pretty happy with the rotiserie though its working well and rolling over the gravel well too.



The frame is pretty dirty but actually looks really good. I may have found another body so if I did i think im gonna switch them out and take the best of both






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03-20-16 12:21 PM - Post#2616568    
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VERY nice & welcome to CT!

That EC sure seems to be an excellent project car. Good luck & have fun with it. Looking forward to watching the progress!


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03-21-16 03:41 PM - Post#2616818    
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Welcome! Good Luck with your build.

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03-22-16 05:47 PM - Post#2617128    
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  • BBLemond Said:

The frame is pretty dirty but actually looks really good. I may have found another body so if I did i think im gonna switch them out and take the best of both



From what I can see of your pics, the body looks to be very restorable. Yeah, I see some dents and some corrosion but nothing a good body man can't make look like new.

It's better to keep the body with the frame for any number of reasons, title/registration issues not withstanding, unless you have no choice.

I love the square body El Caminos. Sub'ed!



 
BBLemond 
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03-29-16 09:44 AM - Post#2618494    
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well its been a long week but I got another el camino. I already got it home and apart. The body on this one is much nicer and the pics really didnt show how bad the other body was. This really saved me a lot of time in prep work










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04-06-16 05:56 PM - Post#2619960    
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Off to the paint shop she goes. I prepped the floors myself just to make sure they were rust free but the painter has some serious work to do still






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BBLemond 
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04-06-16 06:27 PM - Post#2619967    
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I got my new Ron Francis Wiring Harness today!



I have a friend who used one of these harnesses on his old Ford and he loved it. Because there's no loom thats pre-assembled he was able to run the wires exactly how he wanted without having to cut open the loom and relocate things. It worked out really well for him so I think this is gonna be great for Ruth's El Camino. I didnt quite understand what he was talking about when he explained it to me but now that I have it in front of me I can see that I just need to run the wires from the gauges to the fuse panel and then just attach the wires to it when im satisfied with how they look. Pretty cool I think






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04-06-16 08:41 PM - Post#2619986    
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Very cool. nice pics too. Keep us posted.

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BBLemond 
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04-25-16 11:44 AM - Post#2624209    
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Thanks Rock!

I got some pics from the paint shop last week. They are making great progress!

Here are the front fenders while they were getting them straightened out.



And here are the fenders primed and ready for some final block sanding



The quarter panels came out really nice. From what I could tell they were the worst panels on the El Camino



The firewall was also pretty rough. They really made it look great.


Heres the bed and secret compartment. Im having this rhino lined and then painted over



And here are the doors and hood getting worked ready for primer












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04-28-16 10:57 AM - Post#2624831    
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So this past week I got my 12 Bolt set up. Figured I show you guys how easy it really is. I end up setting these up for my friends because they think its some special magic but it really isnt too tough and if you want to do your own its a great excuse to buy some new tools

So your pinion gear is the first thing that has to be set up. They are lapped with the ring gear from the factory and so they should come with a number stamped in them which is your measurement from the end of the pinion to the center line of the ring gear.


To get the center line of the ring gear you need a special tool like this one. I've had this for 30 years at least but they still sell tools like this that will do the job.


Before you set the pinion gear in you have to add shims and the bearing. I dont like using a press to get the bearing on and off so I take a sander to the inside of the bearing and knock off the black oxide and any imperfections so I can slide it on and off. I do this to an old bearing but once I get everything set up I go back and press the new bearing on.


I will guess on the shims for the first time to get a starting point and then go from there. The shims go on then the bearing.




Then you set the pinion in the case add the bearing from the outside and tighten it up so the bearing is preloaded.


The preload on the pinion bearing should be set between 20-25 inch pounds


Then use the carrier bearing sleeves and your centerline measuring tool to figure out your depth


Then you just shim the pinion accordingly to get your depth. Once your depth is right place the carrier and ring gear into place.


From here i needed to set the backlash which is the distance from the ring gear teeth to the pinion gear teeth. I did this by just spinning the ring gear back and forth with a dial indicator in place. I set mine to .008 to .010"


To get the backlash correct you just use carrier bearing shims on the outside of the bearing case to get it positioned right. These shims are also used for taking the slack out of the carrier bearings



You also have to tighten the carrier bearing caps before checking


Once everything is tight I use a drill to spin the gears so I can see the wear pattern.


I also have someone hold pressure on the ring gear to simulate a slight load. This keeps the gear from bouncing back and forth on the gear and makes the pattern more accurate


Heres the pattern I got after the first try. This is the back side of the ring gear and this is a great pattern


And heres the front side which is also good


The gears came with instructions on what the pattern should look like and how to shim to get what you want. So they make it easy to adjust from here. I've found if Im really carefully with setting things up up to this point I usually get it the first time.

Once its all set up I take everything apart making sure that I keep the shims in their proper place and I replace the old pinion bearing I used with a new one thats pressed on. If everything goes back in the way you had it then it will stay set up correctly



 
BBLemond 
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05-06-16 11:38 AM - Post#2626704    
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So I got some pics from the painter yesterday.

Here she is in the paint booth getting a fresh squirt of Corvette blue.







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05-06-16 07:23 PM - Post#2626778    
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Looking good. This has been a pretty quick build.

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05-07-16 04:55 AM - Post#2626820    
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  • Keith_Knox Said:
Looking good. This has been a pretty quick build.



You don't fool around. That was a very solid body to work on which makes things go faster, its going to be a nice elco.
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05-07-16 04:04 PM - Post#2626912    
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Going to be a nice car, great color. What's the yellow thing with the Hoosiers?

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05-07-16 06:02 PM - Post#2626946    
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Oh my ... love that shade-color of blue!


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BBLemond 
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05-09-16 08:08 PM - Post#2627327    
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  • Keith_Knox Said:
Looking good. This has been a pretty quick build.



Thanks. Yah I'm retired so its getting done quick. Sometimes I feel like I need to go back to work to get a break though




 
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05-09-16 08:10 PM - Post#2627328    
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  • DonSSDD Said:
  • Keith_Knox Said:
Looking good. This has been a pretty quick build.



You don't fool around. That was a very solid body to work on which makes things go faster, its going to be a nice elco.
Don





thanks! Yah it definitely helped. Major rust repair and panel replacements can take a lot of time. But honestly my body guy is really good and they have the time dedicated to working on my car instead of a bunch at the same time so its going quick



 
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05-09-16 08:11 PM - Post#2627330    
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Going to be a nice car, great color. What's the yellow thing with the Hoosiers?



Im surprised you're the only one whos asked about that. Its a '64 chevelle SS that I bought new from the dealer. Its been a drag car its whole life.



 
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05-09-16 08:12 PM - Post#2627331    
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Oh my ... love that shade-color of blue!

Thanks! You can blame my wife for the color!




 
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05-11-16 01:53 PM - Post#2627645    
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I wish you best of luck. My best friend did the same thing with his El Camino and it took him 3 decades but when finished it is both a prime show & race car, you can't touch the paint job which is the only thing I hated was that. But he really loves it and got in the GM Chevy magazine. He has everything in it down to the CPU installed for engine specifications when he races. Your going to need a lot of parts and time. His name is Alan and calls it his Al camino sometimes.



 
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05-17-16 09:34 AM - Post#2628840    
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Well at least he finished it and like his name for it. Creative!



 
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05-17-16 09:38 AM - Post#2628841    
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So I got Ruth's El Camino home. The paint looks really good I cant wait to get her put back together











I thought the engine compartment turned out really nice. Of course getting rid of the giant a/c unit helped a lot


I also am really happy with the bed. The bed liner color is really close to the paint color and it should be durable just like any truck bed with bed liner in it. Of course im never gonna use it that way but it only takes that one time that I'll regret.




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05-17-16 10:03 PM - Post#2629013    
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Really like the looks of it. I had a 64 Malibu I bought in 65 while I was in the Navy. Only had it about 6 months.

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05-18-16 11:24 AM - Post#2629099    
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  • Keith_Knox Said:
Really like the looks of it. I had a 64 Malibu I bought in 65 while I was in the Navy. Only had it about 6 months.


Thanks! The I bought the yellow 64 Chevelle in the background when it was new. Raced it for a lot of years and then sold it to upgrade race cars. Many years later when I was racing pro mod i started thinking about building a Chevelle and found my old car. I bought it back. It was never registered so technically im the third owner, the original owner, and its a one owner registered car. I still have the window sticker from the dealer with all the options I got on it. It's a factory SS hardtop but with all the drag racing options you could get.



 
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05-18-16 09:51 PM - Post#2629213    
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Mine was light yellow.

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05-22-16 12:40 PM - Post#2629830    
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I will DEFINITELY blame your wife for that gorgeous color ... LOL! LOOKS AWESOME!!!!! Bet the pics don't quite do it justice, eh??


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