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Username Post: 1961 Impala mild custom build        (Topic#332208)
gofastwclass 
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10-31-18 06:30 PM - Post#2750126    
    In response to 4EyedTurd

Yes, I dress the back sides of all my sheet metal work. Depending on the technique I used to weld the metal changes the amount of work necessary on the back side.

TIG is the most time consuming process but also the easiest to make look good on both sides. The welds are smaller so a few hits with the hammer and dolly or a buff with some sandpaper make me happy.

MIG is the fastest process but more time is spent on the finishing side of the equation. The welds are also harder to finish because the metal seems harder than TIG welds are.

I am getting to the point where I'm almost exclusively using the TIG for everything unless it needs to be tacked together, the job is a quick repair or the metal is dirty.

Twenty plus years ago I met a man who gas welded everything, hammering the welds as he went. The results were fantastic. I'm not sure I'm that patient. Haha.

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gofastwclass 
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11-23-18 10:34 PM - Post#2752235    
    In response to gofastwclass

It’s obviously been a long time since I updated this thread… I’ve done a lot of driving but I’ve also made a few updates to the car with more to come.

One thing that I’ve done was replace the factory rear with a 9” I cut down that was built for a 2002 F-Body. I broke the spider gears in the factory axle and wasted no time switching to a rear that was strong enough to take so abuse. Plus I already had it on hand from a prior project.

I made a three part video of the process, check it out here:

Part 1 Making a low budget axle jig –
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Edited by gofastwclass on 11-25-18 12:02 PM. Reason for edit: Updated video links...

 
junky 
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11-25-18 09:12 AM - Post#2752298    
    In response to gofastwclass

Parts 1,2, & 3 are all the same video.

Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level, then beat you with experience.


 
gofastwclass 
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11-25-18 12:04 PM - Post#2752308    
    In response to junky

  • junky Said:
Parts 1,2, & 3 are all the same video.



Thanks Junky. For some reason this board won't let me add three different videos to the same post. I should know this, I've had the same problem before. The code is right when I look at it but the display and links all go to the first video. Odd. I'll fix the video links in my next post.



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gofastwclass 
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11-25-18 12:05 PM - Post#2752309    
    In response to gofastwclass

Part 2 Preparing the axle –

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gofastwclass 
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11-25-18 12:06 PM - Post#2752310    
    In response to gofastwclass

Part 3 Narrowing the axle –

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gofastwclass 
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01-10-19 10:08 PM - Post#2757089    
    In response to gofastwclass

Only had about an hour and a half to work on the car... simply amazing what you can hammer out if you are determined.




Rusted bit.




Patch.




Old and new.




The hole.




Fitted.





Finished.



Hope to get some more time in this weekend.

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kingkreeton 
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01-11-19 05:39 AM - Post#2757094    
    In response to gofastwclass

Very nice work!! I was wondering when you were going to post some updates.

Shane
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Stittville Ed 
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01-11-19 05:42 AM - Post#2757095    
    In response to gofastwclass

Time is always the problem or missing/waiting for one small part for a big assembly..........

But as long as we keep going forward and making progress were happy.



 
gofastwclass 
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01-12-19 02:12 PM - Post#2757207    
    In response to kingkreeton

Thanks guys!

I've done a lot of work but not much that was visual. Over the summer I broke the factory differential and made a 9" fit the car with 1998 - 2002 F-Body disc brakes (in the videos above). Prior to that I lost second the 4L60E automatic and replaced it with a T-56 6 speed manual.

Both situations weren't really a surprise as the engine makes more power than those components were designed to handle in factory trim.


You're right Ed. Time seems to ebb and flow. I had a fair amount of free time when I started this thread. Then I spent the last two years running my tail off traveling most weekends. Now I'm back home again and able to work a bit on the cars.

Now if I only had a larger workshop...

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Stittville Ed 
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01-15-19 06:46 AM - Post#2757427    
    In response to gofastwclass

Glad to hear that you are back on the car.
Your Write Ups are always Great to see and learn from.

I'm very Lucky to have a place to work.
We have a low Barn 21' peak with 2 sections each 20x40.

So I have my 64 in the back to work on when I can.
Life/Work/Kids always seem to slow progress down.



 
56_Kruiser 
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01-15-19 07:25 AM - Post#2757433    
    In response to gofastwclass

It's always interesting and educational to see your posts.



1956 Chevy
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gofastwclass 
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02-03-19 09:36 AM - Post#2758886    
    In response to 56_Kruiser

Sounds like a cool spot Ed.

Thanks Roger. I was lucky enough to learn a lot form people willing to share information. It only seems right to pass on what I know.


**

Weather here has been funky to put it mildly. If you live in my area you know what I mean. Lots of time spent on weather related stuff so this is the first time in the shop since my last update. It was another short night but a couple hours invested is still progress. I should get more accomplished today.




The holes I made for bracket clearance.




Template and rough drawing on material.





Early test fit.





Partially welded and ran out of shielding gas, the rest will be MIG welded.

Until next time!




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gofastwclass 
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02-04-19 07:07 PM - Post#2759037    
    In response to gofastwclass

Bit more time today allowed me to finish the remaining welds on the first side plus fab and complete the other side using the MIG. The MIG is so much faster to lay down material but takes a lot more time to make evidence of your work disappear. The TIG just rocks for the detail work but the MIG hammers stuff out at a blistering pace.





Finished welding the first notch and added a cap to the end of the brace.





Second side and rough cut template.






Test fitting template.





Finished welding with the MIG.


Now I need to grind the welds and make them invisible even though this will be under the car, above the rear bumper, behind a valance and eventually covered with textured paint... So basically no one will see this once the car is assembled. The devil is in the details they say.

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Stittville Ed 
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02-04-19 07:26 PM - Post#2759038    
    In response to gofastwclass

You are back to making progress and everything looks good as always.



 
gofastwclass 
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03-10-19 09:22 PM - Post#2761790    
    In response to Stittville Ed

Odds and ends session tonight and the only thing photo worthy were the replacement floor plugs I made. When I replaced the floor for some reason I didn’t receive all the floor plugs. To make due I simply reused some of the originals but even the best ones were pretty crusty.

Shipping the ones I need cost almost as much as the product plus I have tools and metal… so I made a few with the bead roller.






These are the GOOD ones from my original floor… bent, heavily pitted and rusted through in spots.




Quick tracing of the original with the inner circle calculated and stepped using the bead roller.




Starting the paint process for the replacement pair I made.







Replacements installed.

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pvs409 
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03-10-19 11:12 PM - Post#2761800    
    In response to gofastwclass

nice looking work.

Just for information the originals were cad plated in silver(zinc plating is used now).

I was able to salvage 2 or 3 sets from the California cars I restored and a few from midwest cars.
Also just for information I think that Show Cars in Minnesota sells very nice reproductions.

Paul

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62 ImpHT 327/300 4 spd
62 Imp CV SS 327/300HP 700R4
62 ImpHT SS 409/482 stroker 4 spd
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Stittville Ed 
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03-11-19 06:55 AM - Post#2761818    
    In response to gofastwclass

Very nice job as always.

In Florida for 6 weeks so no progress for me....





 
56_Kruiser 
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03-11-19 06:20 PM - Post#2761877    
    In response to Stittville Ed

It's great when you have the tools to do the work.

I may have known, but forget: the various metal working tools you have...related to your career? Or purchased for the 'hobby garage'?



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gofastwclass 
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03-11-19 07:33 PM - Post#2761890    
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Thanks guys.

Interesting, I didn't know that Paul. Always learn something new.

The replacements I got with the replacement floor were all black and I had rattle can black. At least they won't flash rust when I drive this summer. Flash rust is harder to strip than rattle bomb paint.

The car is coming completely apart and going on a rotisserie for final work and paint but that is down the road.

  • 56_Kruiser Said:
It's great when you have the tools to do the work.

I may have known, but forget: the various metal working tools you have...related to your career? Or purchased for the 'hobby garage'?



Yes, proper tools make a difference. Sometimes I have to make stuff to make a job easier. The tools in the shop are all hobby related but I'll occasionally work on something for select friends. My day job is in the IT industry.

I'm thinking about moving to gain a larger shop to house more of the tools I can't fit here. Haha

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56_Kruiser 
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03-12-19 07:22 AM - Post#2761919    
    In response to gofastwclass

Sorry folks for the off-topic posts

Ah, yes, I had forgotten you were in IT. Another thing we have in common, although I've been retired now for 8 years. Man...that's hard to believe.

It's great to have a job in a field you enjoy. With constant change the IT field never fails to keep a person entertained.

Now back to regular programming

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gofastwclass 
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03-16-19 08:57 PM - Post#2762274    
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IT has been good to me and I enjoy it.


I’ve been using my cheap, modified bead roller for a while but always found the crank handle awkward for solo use. As the handle rotates your body needs to change position which skews your perspective and sometimes shifts the part.

I would like to have a motorized unit but I don’t use this tool often enough to justify the cost – maybe one day. I created a four spoke wheel to replace the crank handle on the bead roller. Now I only have to reach 90° from any point which keeps my position stable in relation to the part.




What you see is less than $4 in steel from my local cut metal supplier.





Cutting the hub.






Tapped and bolt installed.





Spokes




Finished four spoke unit compared to the original handle.




Installed.

Start to finish is probably around an hour and made my bead roller much more usable for single person operation.


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gofastwclass 
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03-17-19 09:55 PM - Post#2762340    
    In response to gofastwclass

Test fit of the trunk floor brace notches I made earlier. I’ve had the trunk floor pan in and out of the car enough that I can install it and the rear bumper with minimal drama.

Thanks to a lot of careful planning, both sides fit perfectly first time out. Trunk floor needs to come out again to finish some welding and add the valance mount.







Difficult to tell even in the last image but the 1962 Impala trunk floor brace (new metal) would hit the 1961 Impala bumper bracket (rusty metal) if I didn’t make the pocket above. This forced the back bumper to stick out farther rearward than factory and hang down at a goofy angle. If that isn’t enough, the 1962 replacement panel I used also didn’t have a mount for my rear valance panels. This is another example of where the 1962 replacement panel is only about 60% of what it needs to be for a 1961 car. Since no one makes a 1961 replacement panel I had to make my own from what I had or could get.

One more hurdle has been crossed…




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56_Kruiser 
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03-21-19 05:17 PM - Post#2762611    
    In response to gofastwclass

You're going fast!

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gofastwclass 
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03-21-19 05:35 PM - Post#2762613    
    In response to 56_Kruiser

Thanks Roger. I have a LOT to do and I finally have some time again. :D

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