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Username Post: 57 Nomad Project        (Topic#330643)
kwhizz 
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04-20-16 03:29 AM - Post#2623102    
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A little update.....After starting the car it was noticed that the Alternator wasn't charging.........Ended up I had to put a ground wire from the alternator to the block.......charges fine now.....no fuel line leaks.......Added transmission fluid......everything Good......Made an appointment at the Muffler shop to get the Exhaust system installed......Then we have a problem..........Started the car and let it run for a while to check out the cooling fans.......Look under the car and coolant leaking .....Damm........Ended up being the Concept1 Billet thermostat housing leaking where they put the Hose Tube into the body.........called them and they said that they had a problem with them and changed the way they manufacture them to eliminate that problem........the "Big" problem is that the housing is buried under everything and I had to pretty much remove everything to get at it........4 hours later I got it off and waiting for a new GM one to show up............Darn........I was all done and now the car is in pieces again.......Gotta push the exhaust appointment back to next week........



 

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WagonCrazy 
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04-22-16 08:08 AM - Post#2623605    
    In response to kwhizz

That right there is a slice of hot rodding! Stay with it man, it's gonna be soooooo worth it.

57 Nomad -LS1 with C4 suspension
59 Apache Fleetside Shortbed BigWindow



 
kwhizz 
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04-25-16 04:06 AM - Post#2624137    
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Had another little issue come up......when I did the gas tank revision I didn't think it thru correctly, the stock fuel level sender had the float arm going in to the left.......LOL.....it and the new fuel pump were fighting for the same spot..........I ended up ruining the original sender in modifying it......new one showed up and was modified correctly ..........cut off the pick-up tube that the sender was mounted to and rotated it 180 degrees......and since I am not using the tube anymore we welded it up solid to eliminate any fuel leaks.......installed it and everything works perfectly....Two little issues remain (until I find more).........the intercooler pump doesn't turn on and the fittings I used to connect the intercooler lines to the Supercharger leak.........Always something.........the exhaust will go on this week and I moved the car under it's own power for the first time ........just in and out of the garage.........











 
kwhizz 
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05-02-16 06:21 PM - Post#2625846    
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Picked up the car today from the exhaust shop........Need to get the A/C lines made and the system charged.........Need to program the module and get the GPS Speedometer dialed in........Then.........Drive it........





 
kwhizz 
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05-20-16 06:44 AM - Post#2629466    
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Got the car back from Frame-up and the A/C system is now complete.......I was going to take the car up to the Dells for the Automotion car show........In checking everything out, it seems the new Intercooler Pump that came with the kit doesn't work...........A new one is coming under Warranty but won't be here in time.........Darn !!!!



 
kwhizz 
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05-22-16 07:00 AM - Post#2629792    
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The learning curve continues..........I didn't take the car to the Automotion show in the Dells as planned because the Intercooler wasn't working........I had the car running for a while and was checking the cooling system with my infrared heat gun........Noticed the intercooler was ambient temp.......Hummm.....Check the intercooler lines and just a gradual heat change Hummm.......I checked the plug and had Power.......Humm.......I added a Reservoir for the coolant that was higher than the Supercharger and it was full.....but there was no movement of coolant when running.........I called Pace Performance (where the system was purchased) and told them the pump wasn't working........They said they would Warranty it and send out a new one.........(paid for in advance till they got the defective one back)........So.....We get back from the Dells and the box was waiting for me.........Beautiful !!!....So......I change out the pump......fill with water again (was surprised there wasn't a lot of coolant leakage from the line from the intercooler).......started the car and the pump ran for about 10 seconds and shut off...........Darn !!!.........Check all the fuses......everything good.....
Hummm!!!!.........Come in the house and do a Internet search about the pump........Found a thread about this exact problem..........Air in the System.......When the pump sees Air it turns off......Hummm....System is full at it's highest point..........Hummm.......Go out and now Focus and this issue...........I ended up putting a "T" fitting from a Radiator flush kit in the upper Intercooler hose....I back filled the Intercooler that I thought was full wit 3/4 of a gallon of coolant.....capped it off and it now works perfectly..........Sheesh !!!.......This car stuff is Hard !!!!



 
WagonCrazy 
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05-22-16 08:12 PM - Post#2629934    
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Frustrating, but your troubleshooting methodology eventually led to you figuring out the cause of the problem. Thanks to the internet....

Remember when (back in the day) when there was no internet and you had to shade-tree all this stuff without the benefit of anyone else to ask...

57 Nomad -LS1 with C4 suspension
59 Apache Fleetside Shortbed BigWindow



 
kwhizz 
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05-26-16 04:09 PM - Post#2630614    
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The Hood had a bunch of stone chips on it from a couple years of Power Tours.....And ....everyone knows how that works out.......Now that the big stuff is finished and every time I looked at the car, all I saw was the stone chips.......So.......the car is at Pulera's getting the hood repainted, other little chips touched up.......then a good buffing......Then it's time to put some miles under it's belt......









 
kwhizz 
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06-12-16 04:01 PM - Post#2633528    
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It's been a while , update........Pulera's got the paint mixed and matched.......as long as they got it that close I decided to have them fix the passenger side wheel well area.......there was a spot (very small) where there was a paint adhesion problem (small bubble)......not a rust issue at all....But......Like everything at Pulera's......they don't do anything unless they do it correctly.....so....Before and after pic's............Should get it back next week so I can get some miles on it.......



After







They also repainted the top of the fenders that had a bunch of paint chips that I put in while installing the core support





Almost there..........



 
kwhizz 
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07-05-16 04:10 AM - Post#2637849    
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Update.........The car is pretty much finished and we have taken it on a couple of short trips to check it out.......A couple of things needing improvement are getting rid of the rear leaf spring choppy ride (to be replaced with a 4 link Coil Over set-up) and the front seat.........We will be getting a split bench contoured foam seat and get it re-upholstered in original material to match......the stock seat is like sitting on a Park bench......LOL........Done but not "Done"......











 
phillip123hastings 
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07-05-16 06:56 AM - Post#2637894    
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The car looks incredible! Keep up the good work



 
wagonman100 
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07-06-16 07:22 PM - Post#2638227    
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Sweet. All that's left to do is ship it to me.😀

Jay
Friends don’t let friends drive Fords.

1999 Silverado Z71 4X4 extra-cab short bed
1983 Malibu Fauxmad - tubbed
1978 El Camino Kustomized
1972 Monte Carlo
1957 210 handyman wagon
1957 Nomad sport wagon
1957 Cameo Carrier


 
kwhizz 
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07-10-16 03:39 AM - Post#2638853    
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Update.........I ordered a Glide Engineering seat for the car........the stock seat is like sitting on a Park bench..........and after driving coil spring cars for a while, I forgot how bad leaf spring cars ride.........ordered a 4 link Coil-over set-up from RideTech...........which means I also had gas tank clearance issues..........a new Ricks Tank is on its way.......which means I have to remove the spare tire well...........LOL.......it never ends......but....in the end it will be a car with all the creature comforts of the other cars and the drivability to do Road Tours..........The A/C unit cools the car very well..........no Problems at all.....The lower control arm bushings on the front suspension were in pretty bad shape.....so , I bought new upper and lower tubular control arms and they will be installed next week............Never ends.........But.....I know where I want to end up........so......LOL.....



 
kwhizz 
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07-20-16 06:04 PM - Post#2640943    
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The Car is at Frame-Up Wheelworks getting the triangulated 4 Bar set-up installed....along with the new tank and spare Tire storage well mod's.........Here are some pic's of the start of the process....











 
kwhizz 
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07-25-16 06:20 PM - Post#2641794    
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Moving along.........



Spare tire well out.................



New Ricks Tank going in............







 
ptjsk 
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07-25-16 08:28 PM - Post#2641808    
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OMG! No spare tire!! LOL! Isn't that why they have AAA?



 
WagonCrazy 
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07-27-16 04:48 AM - Post#2641987    
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I ditched the spare tire well in mine too.
If you are going on a very long journey, then put one in the back and call it a day. Otherwise, keep your AAA towing membership paid up.

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59 Apache Fleetside Shortbed BigWindow



 
ptjsk 
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07-29-16 09:45 AM - Post#2642399    
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I'm with you on that one!

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Bel_AirAmerica 
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07-30-16 04:46 AM - Post#2642541    
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This thing is KILLER!I bet it's going to be tough to wipe the grin off your face.
Rick



Edited by Bel_AirAmerica on 07-30-16 04:47 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
kwhizz 
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07-31-16 05:59 AM - Post#2642745    
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Here are some pic's of the finished install.....Everything went smooth except for one issue.....I wanted to keep the ride height just as it was.......the Coil-over shocks that were shipped with the kit set the ride height when they were fully extended........so....Donnie ordered a new set that were 2" longer ........The kit was designed to work with the shocks as delivered and with the 9" Ford rear in the car, the yoke is lower than a Chevy rear........So.......With the longer Shocks the triangulated bar now hit the driveshaft yoke.......They to make a bracket to lower the bar to get it to clear........The Gas Tank is installed and the fill tube all hooked up......Here are some pic's before the wheels and tires are installed





Ken



 
Bruces 57 
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07-31-16 06:10 AM - Post#2642747    
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Hello;
Looks nice! The only thing I saw was the coil over position. Is this car for racing? I learned a something about positioning on rear shocks (goes for coil overs) that the more vertical they are mounted the more rigid the driveability will be, and the more they are angled the smoother the ride. (true or false?)
There is always a thought in my mind that we do mods to our cars based on previous experiences or from other examples of what we have seen, not (sometime) really knowing what the end result will manifest itself to.
Thats a really good looking choice for the gas tank.
Your project is coming right along!
My car has the three steps foreward and five steps back syndrom going on! (fixing paid for work that isn't worth "SQUAT!!")

Bruce




 
kwhizz 
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08-01-16 04:36 PM - Post#2643068    
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Donnie and the crew at Frame-up did an outstanding job on the Nomad.....Changing to the 4 link set-up made a lot of things happen.....Gas Tank change......eliminating the spare tire well......and Trashing out the brand new exhaust system that doesn't fit anymore.....Anyhow.......I haven't driven it yet, but...here are some pics of the car back on the ground.....







 
kwhizz 
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08-05-16 10:16 PM - Post#2644000    
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Here's a picture showing the spare tire well removed and the new gas tank installed........I'm having a new drop in pan made that will be panel bonded in place.........there is still room above the tank for the pan to be 4" deep for some storage......Also the new Glide Engineering seat frame and seat foam assy arrived today........






 
kwhizz 
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08-21-16 05:23 AM - Post#2646857    
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Finally got the pan to fill in the spare tire well.........It will be installed early next week and back to the exhaust shop next Thursday ............Then off to Nicky Chicago for Tuning..........





 
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08-22-16 01:02 PM - Post#2647053    
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Any thought on including a fuel pump access door to the bottom of that new drop in panel? Just because if your fuel pump ever goes out, it's a cinch to get to it via the door (vs. having to drop the tank first).

Regardless of that, you have a fine build coming along!

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59 Apache Fleetside Shortbed BigWindow



 
kwhizz 
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09-08-16 03:33 AM - Post#2650087    
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New exhaust system is in......New Tires as the old ones although good.......were 10 years old, and the rear tires were a pain to get in as they were so wide......the rear end had to have the shocks unbolted to get them on or off......so....I went to a slightly taller and narrower tire to make the car more user friendly.........and the new storage pan is in and in use......So........The car is pretty much finished and the conversion has taken the car to a new level, the Coil-over rear suspension has improved the ride considerably........I also added new tubular upper and lower front control arms........the one thing that is not finished yet is I bought a Glide Engineering contoured foam front seat that is being upholstered to match the existing pattern ........Here are some pic's..

















 
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03-15-17 04:00 AM - Post#2681613    
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Update........A couple of things........Took the car to Nickey Chicago for tuning......during the tuning process a couple of issues popped up.........#1....I put a Concept 1 front drive set-up on the car to allow for the A/C compressor to be mounted up top ( no room in the stock low position due to cross member clearance issues)....this setup drives everything off of one 8 rib belt.........and in the Dyno tuning process when given full throttle, the belt squeal made it apparent the Belt wrap on the crank pulley was not the best along with the belt dust all over the engine..........I had a Gatorback belt on the car which has cross grooves which make the belt quieter,........But the guys at Nickey told me to get a Gates Fleet Runner Belt which doesn't have the cross grooves and will give more gripping surface..........Only made 7lbs of boost with the slippage.........New Belt installed..........2nd.......the Horsepower on the Dyno was lower than I expected..(442 RWHP).....Also in driving the car home it ran good but just didn't have the power of the LSA powered 66 Chevelle) ............After getting the car home I put it up on the lift and after looking at the exhaust system..........I now realized that I should have not used the stock cast iron manifolds........and when the exhaust was fabricated, the 90 degree bend put in the pipe coming down from the manifolds actually reduced the pipe diameter quite a bit..........so....as I looked at this set-up, I really realized the Choke point of trying to push all the exhaust at RPM thru that area of pipe........So..........Here we go again......LOL......Ordered a set of 4 tube headers........(pic's to follow).........It will be interesting to see what the numbers will be after getting everything installed and tuned again............I'm also going to install a set of Ring Bros Hood Hinges........

Ken



 
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03-15-17 02:32 PM - Post#2681668    
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Dyno pull at Nickey Chicago



[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXa36XQL7sU[/ url]



 
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03-16-17 06:26 AM - Post#2681761    
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Are you going with Earl Williams headers?

I purchased a set for my '55 with a 427 motor, and the quality is beyond expectations!

Even though you didn't acquire the HP you wanted, the video was cool!

Nice car!

Pat



 
kwhizz 
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03-24-17 12:11 PM - Post#2683104    
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Headers in..........Check





Hinges in and Hood Aligned.......Check...







And since the weather is nice.........Drive it to work......Check




Gonna be interesting to get it back to Nickey Chicago and see what if any power gains were made.........Again.......I should have put the Headers on during the initial install.....

Ken



 

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