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Username Post: Police Car tests        (Topic#326242)
Richard Martin 
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07-04-15 02:18 PM - Post#2559510    

1996 test results:
https://www.justnet.org/pdf/96patrol.pdf

Comparison:

2015 test results:
www.michigan.gov/documents/msp/2015_MY _Police_Vehi...

Richard



 




iRt 
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12-13-15 10:18 PM - Post#2595366    
    In response to Richard Martin

Interesting stuff, thanks for posting.

The Jeep had to have the rotors replaced after 4 laps - nice

The '96 Caprice specs are ridiculous, 26 mpg in a car that heavy with a top speed of 139 - nuts. I think that is the pinnacle of any stock big car technology so far, all things considered.



 
junkman104 
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12-14-15 04:53 AM - Post#2595384    
    In response to iRt

I had a 96 Impala SS for 9 years till the wife wanted something smaller. I sure miss that car.



 
iRt 
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12-14-15 07:59 AM - Post#2595404    
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My wife drives the '92 Caprice and loves it, maybe that's the basis of our still being together

I honestly think that the bubbles, although designed with near zero creativity and with crappy interior plastics by a company obviously drowning were the all around best high numbers vehicles so far in car history. They finally got the mechanicals right and then they stop making them, more done in by CAFE than any reality I know of.

Two tons @ 26mpg! What's funny is if you look at stuff like the PT Cruiser or a Sienna and those weigh less, have a zillion more parts, need expensive timing belts replaced, run so hot it's crazy, have untested trial and error mechanicals done on the buyers dime, and they only get meager 1-2 mpg better. Actually laughable.

One of my personal rules is: don't buy a vehicle that wasn't used as a common cop car.

But what isn't funny is how people were conned about all of this, how people think the bubbles are gas guzzling dinosaurs when in reality they are more economical than a Honda Accord.

Back in the 70's everyone used to laugh at the gas guzzlers of the 50's, but here today after all the sky-is-falling bs about running out of energy we have more gas guzzlers on the road than at any other time. Ever check the mpg of a Suburban? How about the mileage of a V6 Trailblazer? It's a joke, but not a very good one.

The notion that the Earth could ever have an energy crisis is the most stupid thinking imaginable. Right up there with the Earth is flat and I'm sure history will in time see it that way.



Edited by iRt on 12-14-15 08:11 AM. Reason for edit: the devil made me do it

 
YeniPenny 
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12-16-15 10:03 AM - Post#2595856    
    In response to Richard Martin

I can also attest to the amazing wonders of the 96 Impala SS. I still have the one I bought new.
Smokey burnouts, good gas mileage, nice ride. I've only had mine up to 125MPH.



 
junkman104 
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12-16-15 05:28 PM - Post#2595960    
    In response to YeniPenny

I ran mine up to the rpm limiter....145 mph. Once.



 
knightfan2691 
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12-19-15 12:57 PM - Post#2596510    
    In response to junkman104

While 2015 has some interesting cars, I much prefer those 1996 tests, with a couple exceptions ... ha.


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Nailheadv8 
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05-19-16 09:38 AM - Post#2629290    
    In response to iRt

I agree, I bought a 96 9C1 (police package). my neighbor asked "why would you buy that?", until I took him for a ride, then he asked where he could get one like it. I was looking for an SS at the time, now every time I meet someone with an SS they want to buy my car for the brakes, heavier suspension, etc. The real reason I bought the car was that I get to sit up front now.



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fbi9c1 
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05-20-16 11:46 AM - Post#2629515    
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  • junkman104 Said:
I ran mine up to the rpm limiter....145 mph. Once.



FYI, it's not an RPM limiter. The PCMs have speed limiters which are different for various tire speed ratings.

The civilian Caprices are limited to 108. The 9c1's that came with 225/70-15 tires are set to 129. The 9c1's with the 235/70-15's are set to 147. The choice of tires is not related to the driveline, just a matter of choice based on intended use by the ordering agency. The Impala SS's are set at 154.
For 9c1's, the sticker on the driver's door tells which tires were original to the car. None of it is related to the power train combo's. About 35% of 9c1's have L99's instead of LT-1's. For an LT-1 equipped 9c1 with 235 tires and the Impala, the top end is around 147-154 depending on external factors such as aerodynamic limitations, weather, etc. Most of us who have 9c1's with LT-1's have the PCM re-flashed with a performance tune that includes removal of the speed limiter. The optimum shift points are around 5450-5500 with or without the tune. It has always been a toss up in both practice and theory whether an LT-1 9c1 or a Impala SS was faster since they have the same driveline. Many of us just like the 9c1's better, but it is just a matter of personal taste.

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Edited by fbi9c1 on 05-20-16 12:07 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
junkman104 
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05-20-16 03:18 PM - Post#2629558    
    In response to fbi9c1

I sold the car 10 years ago, Wife wanted a smaller Monte Carlo SS. Wish I had it back.



 
Highlander1 
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06-03-16 07:02 PM - Post#2631970    
    In response to fbi9c1

It is my understanding that the PCM speed limiter was based on the speed rating of the tire, not its size. My 9C1 had H rated 225/70s and would peg at 130 mph (observed). Regards, Don



 
fbi9c1 
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06-05-16 11:36 AM - Post#2632233    
    In response to Highlander1

Correct. The 225's and 235's had different speed ratings. If one were trying to find out what the PCM limiter was set at, they could look at the sticker on the driver's door and it would show either 225 or 235 which would allow one to determine that info.

Jim B.


 




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