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Username Post: 2ndtime50guy --- 2 door 1950 Styleline Deluxe        (Topic#309930)
2ndtime50guy 
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05-25-19 07:22 PM - Post#2767083    
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Today I reattached the front crossmember temporarily for a mock up of the front end parts to check bag clearance before welding. Not quite ready to move ahead, but getting closer.

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one4dad 
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05-25-19 08:13 PM - Post#2767084    
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Looking good .


Bill Wilson 50 styleline deluxe 2 door sold,- 51 styleline Deluxe 2 door ,'56 235 with dual carter webers on an Offenhauser intake, Fenton headers, 56 chevy rear end and 700R4 transmission.


 
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05-27-19 01:36 PM - Post#2767192    
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Thanks Bill! Yesterday I notched an arch in the front of the lower A arm, and now the bag clearance is great in every direction.

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2ndtime50guy 
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06-08-19 05:31 PM - Post#2767982    
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And now the passenger lower control arm is notched and the bag is mocked up. Today I also ordered my Fatman Dropped uprights from Gambino Kustoms and tomorrow I start cleaning and sandblasting the upper A arms and cleaning up the spindles for mock up. The goal is to put some wheels on it in a few weeks and check all the clearances with the bags inflated and deflated. Pics:

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2ndtime50guy 
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06-13-19 07:29 PM - Post#2768413    
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This has been a much slower summer than last year. All I've done this week is clean, degrease, thread chase, re-grease, and partially assemble and center the upper control arms, spindles, bushings, etc. I'm currently awaiting my Fatman dropped uprights from Gambino Kustoms. I also dismantled my spindles from the old uprights. One king pin was stuck, so I had to heat the spindle with a torch and drive it out. Fun, fun...

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06-14-19 03:26 PM - Post#2768472    
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Rollin' right along!

Tommy

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2ndtime50guy 
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06-14-19 07:46 PM - Post#2768486    
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Thanks Tommy! It's been slow, but as you guys always remind me, small steps forward is still progress. Thanks for the encouragement. My Fatman dropped uprights arrived today! They are works of art. I can't wait to install them, the spindles, bearings, and wheels and see how low we can get!

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Franks_Old_53 
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06-15-19 04:09 AM - Post#2768497    
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Awesome progress! Like you said - just keep moving. That's the goal I set on mine; no deadline, just commit to working on it every weekend. I'm looking forward to the video of this thing with the air bags working; so cool to see that "rise and fall"....

David



 
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06-15-19 05:54 PM - Post#2768522    
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Thanks David! I really hope to do a temporary assembly of the front wheels tomorrow, lower the car with a floor Jack, take some measurements, and check clearances!

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2ndtime50guy 
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06-16-19 06:26 PM - Post#2768605    
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It's put together and it's low! Wish I could get it down 3 more inches. Still figuring this out. The Fatman dropped uprights are beautifully crafted! More updates tomorrow!

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2ndtime50guy 
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06-16-19 06:30 PM - Post#2768606    
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Some more assembly pics...

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one4dad 
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06-16-19 07:40 PM - Post#2768613    
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Won't it drop a little more once the weight of engine body etc is added?

Bill Wilson 50 styleline deluxe 2 door sold,- 51 styleline Deluxe 2 door ,'56 235 with dual carter webers on an Offenhauser intake, Fenton headers, 56 chevy rear end and 700R4 transmission.


 
2ndtime50guy 
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06-17-19 03:13 AM - Post#2768619    
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Hi Bill! I think normally it would. I think there are 2-3 factors at play:

1. The way I have added smooth steel plate to the inside of the lower control arms is causing the crossmember to bottom out early. If the plate was outside the control arm, I would gain an inch or so.

2. I think my spring hat notch could be deeper by another 1/2 inch. I need to remeasure my cut.

3. I am guessing the weight of the enginr should drop it about 1/2 an inch.

4. I have no idea how to gain that last inch of drop, without stepping the control arms. Already having the Fatman dropped uprights, I really don't wish to do that.

5. I wonder if I could somehow notch the lower control arms just a bit underneath where they hit the crossmember.

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06-18-19 12:32 PM - Post#2768757    
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Today I just did a lot of measuring and a little mocking up on the rearend. To get a better idea on how this will work.

Don't quote me on the measurements, that's just what I got from this car and the newly lowered donor frame. The 2nd pic is taped where the wheel openings should be when dropped, and the last pic is a rough computer rendering. Not bad!

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06-18-19 12:41 PM - Post#2768758    
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Here is the mockup of the rearend with the 1955 3:55 axle, wheels, the frame lowered about 6 inches, and the rear floor left over from 2ndtimer. It's a good gauge for the tunnel clearance! I think I will definitely do the Gambino Notch kit and I'm leaning toward their 4 link suspension. According to my measurements, I won't need a recessed gas tank or to remove the spare tire well. I still haven't measured wheel wells yet. That will be tomorrow hopefully. Or, all measurements could still be wrong, and I'll start over again!

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06-19-19 10:40 AM - Post#2768828    
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Kind of a boring day...all I had time to do was make gussets to reinforce the spring towers.

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Edited by 2ndtime50guy on 06-19-19 10:44 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
2ndtime50guy 
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06-19-19 12:00 PM - Post#2768833    
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Sorry the one pic is upside down. I tried to fix it...to no avail.

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one4dad 
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06-19-19 04:13 PM - Post#2768848    
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Tim, just curious, why are you reinforcing the towers. I would think the loads would generally be the same, unless bags cause more stress.....again curious
Bill

Bill Wilson 50 styleline deluxe 2 door sold,- 51 styleline Deluxe 2 door ,'56 235 with dual carter webers on an Offenhauser intake, Fenton headers, 56 chevy rear end and 700R4 transmission.


 
2ndtime50guy 
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06-19-19 04:58 PM - Post#2768851    
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The tower has to be notched out to hold the bag, support cup, and plate, and to not rub any sharp edges. Removing that steel sacrifices a lot of the strength. It's just the way I've seen lots of other people do it. I'll try to find an older pic showing how much was cut away.

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Edited by 2ndtime50guy on 06-19-19 05:10 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
2ndtime50guy 
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06-19-19 05:19 PM - Post#2768852    
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Here is a better angle showing how the arch was weakened by mass removal of material. You can see here that I had to go back a 2nd time and remove more. This was the first cut. The yellow line is the end product. Then I welded the metal bump stop back in after removing sharp projections.

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Edited by 2ndtime50guy on 06-19-19 05:21 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
one4dad 
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06-19-19 06:48 PM - Post#2768856    
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Wow, thanks for the explanation.
Bill

Bill Wilson 50 styleline deluxe 2 door sold,- 51 styleline Deluxe 2 door ,'56 235 with dual carter webers on an Offenhauser intake, Fenton headers, 56 chevy rear end and 700R4 transmission.


 
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06-20-19 06:03 AM - Post#2768875    
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No problem and thank you Bill. You've been so good to me through the years. All this stuff is "way above my pay grade". I've spent more time learning and researching than I've actually spent with tools in my hands, especially this year. If I do anything right on this frame and driveline conversion, it's going to be you guys that get the credit. To anyone else reading this, and while I'm thinking about, I want to give a special thank you to William Gommel (Usmile4) and Brian Desmond (Sirxloin) for their help over social media each and every week. Alex Gambino has also been a huge help over the phone and several others who've written tech articles here and elsewhere. Thanks Guys! Also thanks to Papa Gee on FB. Last but not least, thank you to all the dedicated chevytalkers who have contributed to this build page. Special thanks to Keith Knox and our dearly departed Raycow (RIP), who have offered a wealth of knowledge, along with my dearly departed local hot rod friend Dennis D. On a separate note, while I'm rambling, we need to embrace the new people in this hobby. The old guard is passing away each day and vital info is being lost. I teach band for a living, but I am constantly encouraging my students who love cars. There are a lot more out there than we realize, and we need them to carry this forward. God bless.

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