Rotobo
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04-06-03 01:15 PM - Post#207845
Whats the difference of a 1931 Chevy two door sedan and a 1931 Chevy two door Coach? I understand there is a difference, anyone know what the different is and does it affect the frame?
Also where could I find a frame for a 1931 Chevy Coach? The old frame is gone around the battery box area. I was told that only a 31 frame would fit a 31, is this true?
Thank you
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Re: 1931 Chevy 2 door Coach?? Sedan??
04-06-03 03:09 PM - Post#207846
In response to Rotobo
As far as I know, on a 2-door coach, the rear wall goes straight down in back, to the apron that covers the gas tank. There was also a style called the 5 passenger sedan. On that one, the rear wall went down to just below the window, then there was a small hump (that bumped out to the rear), then down.
I`m not sure about the similarities of the frames between the 2, but I understand that 1931 WAS a one-off type of year in many respects, and 30 or 32 parts won`t fit.
I`m sure Royer, or Gene may be able to expand on this some more.
The only thing I`m sure of, is that I`m not sure of anything.
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Re: 1931 Chevy 2 door Coach?? Sedan??
04-06-03 03:26 PM - Post#207847
In response to Rotobo
First off, Chevrolet had only one frame in 1931.Chevrolet refered to their 2 door cars as a coach.Most makers called them 2 door sedans.Chev. had just one 2 door but it came in a DeLuxe and Standard (plain) model.There was kind of a cross between a coupe and a 2 door called a 5 passenger coupe.These were rare.It had a small built in trunk on the rear.....Yes, the '31 frame is all by itself. 
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Rotobo
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Re: 1931 Chevy 2 door Coach?? Sedan??
04-06-03 04:00 PM - Post#207848
In response to Gene_Schneider
Old_gto and Gene Schneider: It's going to be hard to find a replacement frame with only one year production, that I know for sure. Thanks for the help.
This forum is great.
Thanks again
Rodney
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Re: 1931 Chevy 2 door Coach?? Sedan??
04-07-03 12:26 PM - Post#207849
In response to Rotobo
Where are you located? I bought a used frame for my 31. The original frame is a completely rolling restored chassis. If your going original give me a call. I also might know of a stripped frame in Kansas. Thats where I bought mine. Brought it back to Michigan in a shortbed s-10, hanging out the back.
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Re: 1931 Chevy 2 door Coach?? Sedan??
04-07-03 04:18 PM - Post#207850
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GMBOB: This info is for a friend and she's going to rod the 31, About finished doing a completely stock 29 and she has a 31 Coach in very rough shape so she's going to rod it. A frame is about all she needs other than some sheetmetal parts. She's not using any of the old running gear. We live in Northern Ky just north of Louisville on the Indiana border.
She might be interested in your frame if the price is right. My email is Boothr@iglou.com if you want to contact me. Thanks for replying
Rodney
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Re: 1931 Chevy 2 door Coach?? Sedan??
04-08-03 02:38 PM - Post#207851
In response to Rotobo
You may want to try the search feature, but I thought there was some discussion a while back about using S-10 frames for early 30`s streetrods.
The only thing I`m sure of, is that I`m not sure of anything.
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Re: 1931 Chevy 2 door Coach?? Sedan??
04-08-03 03:56 PM - Post#207852
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old_gto: Thanks for your response. I have a sore spot relating to S-10 frames. I got stuck with a S-10 frame deal with a 36 Ford PU. It was so convincing,disc brakes,Indpt Susp., PS, brake lines already in, gas tank mounted, really sounded like it was saving so much time/parts. I had the frame Professional shortened to 112 inches. BTW, the fellow who sold it to me told me the front fit okay. I believed him as you can see.  I understand the S-10 frame can be used on vehicles with inside fender panels that can be altered to go around the steering unit, etc. but S-10 frames are very hard to use on "fender on frame" vehicles. Lots of junk out front that are in the way. The cab is narrower on the older vehicles and without narrowing the S=10 frame you can't channel the body as it won't straddle the stock S-10 frame.
I hope this makes sense. I want folks to check into non model frame switches before getting into a mess like I did. I asked on the boards and didn't get any responses on the 36 to S-10 match, that should've been a red light, didn't take, I blundered on in. .
Back to the 31, We will probably use homemade horns and go from there. This way we won't be ruining a good frame by altering it.
Thanks a lot.
The folks on these forums are the best.
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Re: 1931 Chevy 2 door Coach?? Sedan??
04-09-03 12:31 AM - Post#207853
In response to Rotobo
If the frame is gone around the area that the battery box used to sit, I'd suggest that you consider fabricating a repair to replace thais portion only. The frame was relatively straight in this area, and appearance is not overly critical - while strength is.
If you aren't comfortable doing this type of work, you should be able to locate a competent shop without too much trouble. If you don't have any shops that normally do this work, check with firms that regularly mount truck bodies, extend frames and wheelbases on trucks, etc.
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Re: 1931 Chevy 2 door Coach?? Sedan??
04-09-03 01:40 PM - Post#207854
In response to Royer
Rodney...sorry to hear of the troubles with the S-10 frame! Possibly GMBob has the answer. If that one does`nt work out, you may ask on Rob Cummings site:
http://communities.msn.com/the1931chevrolethotrodproject
It`s dedicated to 30`s Chevy owners. There`s about 70 members, and there`s a section called "Chevy Messages" where you can post questions.
As mentioned above, if the frame is only bad in spots, repair sections may be the best bet.
The only thing I`m sure of, is that I`m not sure of anything.
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Re: 1931 Chevy 2 door Coach?? Sedan??
09-07-03 02:35 PM - Post#207855
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Thanks for the LINK Jim, Nice to know my little 30's Chevy site gets around.., How long you been posting here??
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Re: 1931 Chevy 2 door Coach?? Sedan??
09-08-03 04:08 PM - Post#207856
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Quote:
How long you been posting here??
Registered July 2000, 6300+ posts! Mostly frequent the 29-41, 60-72 truck, streetrod, custom, DeeDee`s, and chit-chat forums.
The only thing I`m sure of, is that I`m not sure of anything.
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01-07-21 08:02 PM - Post#2811608
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The word 2 door sedan never really came into being till the 50s. A 2 door 5 passenger was a coach. 4 doors was a sedan. One didn’t need anything else to identify them.
There was a 5 passenger coupe with a trunk,
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01-09-21 09:20 AM - Post#2811714
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During the 1933 model-year, the five-passenger coupe was renamed to Town Sedan. The Town Sedan was a two-door.
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01-09-21 09:02 PM - Post#2811742
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https://1931chevrolet.com/drawings.htm
defines body styles for 1931
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02-17-21 01:34 PM - Post#2814468
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Just found the thread...oldie. My next project is the 1931 AE Independence (Coach). Got a body about 10 years ago and just started collecting parts for the build (50's traditional hot rod).
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02-19-21 08:46 AM - Post#2814618
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How is the wood on your body? I've always been interested in the earlier bodies with wood construction inside them, but been told it's a ton of work to restore, or build them if you don't have good wood inside.
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02-21-21 05:17 PM - Post#2814826
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Ours was full of termites! I called an exterminator, and asked how much to "tent" a car... LOL! They thought I was joking. Found a shop that was making replacement wood pieces, but they wanted about 5 grand for the kit. We ended up removing all the wood & replaced it with 1" square steel tubing. (Note from the thread date that it was almost 20 years ago!) Well, Florida DMV gave me such a hard time, I could never get a title for it, so we stripped it, sold it off in pieces, & tripled our money. So we did the next logical thing.... bought a 71 Corvette to build!
The only thing I`m sure of, is that I`m not sure of anything.
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02-22-21 12:57 PM - Post#2814888
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Here in Oregon the first thing I do before starting any build is get a title! I've had friends finish cars and then try to get or transfer a title, and run into all sorts of issues! One friend got a title with his '53 Chevy, but when he went to DMV to transfer it they said the car AND title were stolen! It was the correct title, but it seems the owner was working out of state, and his renter found the title in the glovebox so she sold the car! He ended up negotiating with the rightful owner to buy the car a 2nd time! Fortunately the owner was sympathetic to what had happened. He could have just said it looks fantastic and told him to return it.
We don't have vehicle safety inspections, but do have title inspections for cars coming in out of state, or applying for lost titles. So you can pile all the necessary parts on a trailer and take them to DMV to get inspected and transferred before you start.
I did this with my old 1937 British Austin, as I told DMV the title was the engine number, and it was coming out. DMV simply looked it over to confirm, issued a new VIN number, and I was done. Sure makes it safer to spend money after you know you've got a clean title!
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02-22-21 02:36 PM - Post#2814894
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Here in Oregon the first thing I do before starting any build is get a title! I've had friends finish cars and then try to get or transfer a title, and run into all sorts of issues!-----Sure makes it safer to spend money after you know you've got a clean title!
Yup... that was the first, and LAST time I ever had that issue! The seller never transferred it to his name, so I had an old title in someone else`s name, and the DMV wanted the guy`s signature on some other documents... but he had passed away!
I`ve passed up a LOT of other vehicles since then because they didn`t have a clear title in the seller`s name!
The only thing I`m sure of, is that I`m not sure of anything.
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02-23-21 09:13 AM - Post#2814939
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Me too! I wont deal with things that aren't clear and easy. I ran into an issue with my '39 Chev coupe title because I didn't notice the seller signed the wrong place! Stood in line at DMV for 2.5 hrs. only to be told I'd need the seller to sign a form stating he'd signed the wrong place!
Fortunately I had his phone number and we met the next day to have him sign it, and then another 2 hr. wait at DMV to get the transfer done. But all went fine after that, until I tried to get my 1939 Oregon plates assigned to it when done.
Counter guy told me I couldn't use the plates "because they're not in my computer system". I laughed and told him if they were in his computer I couldn't use them as it meant they were already assigned to an existing car. We finally got a supervisor who told him the same, and he finished the paperwork for the other guy.
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02-23-21 04:52 PM - Post#2814962
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Well, I`m just glad we made out OK on it. Like I mentioned, tripled our money by parting it out. We still would love to have an early 30s car, but have a couple un-finished to get done first. I saw a real nice 34 Buick near here.... I want it bad, but the wife who USUALLY instgates me, is holding me off on it.... for now. (It DOES have a title, btw)
The only thing I`m sure of, is that I`m not sure of anything.
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