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Username Post: My '60 classic project        (Topic#308201)
DonSSDD 
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11-08-19 04:35 AM - Post#2779759    
    In response to PLS

I’ve asked an expert, I’ll likely get back to you later today with some real good advice on which springs to get.

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Edited by DonSSDD on 11-08-19 04:35 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 


PLS 
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11-08-19 05:23 AM - Post#2779762    
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Thank you Don very much I really do appreciate your help! Lamar



 
DonSSDD 
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11-08-19 05:53 AM - Post#2779769    
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This advice is from a fellow who works on engines of all vintages and from stock to drag. He says:
I'd use the stock replacement spring for the 1996 and up Vortec 305 and 350 engines.Yes I suggest changing all 16 springs.I'd be doubtful that the cam is hurt,but springs do fail from age.These springs have a seat pressure of about 90 lbs.

I told him the history and that this was for a stock 283 that won’t see any racing.

He says use GM only in this case. His advice is bullletproof IMHO.
Don

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PLS 
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11-08-19 07:47 AM - Post#2779772    
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Thank you Don!! When I get home this afternoon I will look them up and before I buy anything I will post what I find to make sure that we are all on the same page 😊



 
PLS 
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11-08-19 11:32 AM - Post#2779785    
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Hey Don, I went over to local Chevy dealer this afternoon and he gave me the part number but he didn't have any specs on the spring but this is what I found when I searched the number. Could you check with your friend to see if these are the ones he is talking about? Thank you, Lamar

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DonSSDD 
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11-08-19 12:41 PM - Post#2779787    
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I'd say that's it but I'll check and advise.

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PLS 
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11-08-19 01:07 PM - Post#2779791    
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DonSSDD 
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11-08-19 01:22 PM - Post#2779793    
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He agreed that will work fine. Keep moving forward.

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PLS 
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11-08-19 06:20 PM - Post#2779807    
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Don, I just got back home and this is the first chance I have had to reply to you. I called the guy that I talked to today and told him that I would go ahead and order them. He had told me this afternoon that they were a special order and there could be a problem in getting them since GM has been on strike and when he actually checked he said that it could be a few weeks. He could not give me even an estimated time that they would be in and the special orders require a non-refundable prepayment. He looked for another dealer and found that it indicated that they had one #10212811 spring. Since this spring is going to be troublesome to get could you get your friend to take a look again at the Edelbrocks 5794 since it comes with the seals and retainers, these seem to be readily available. You didn’t know what you were saying when you said “keep asking questions” , Lamar



 
DonSSDD 
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11-09-19 06:25 AM - Post#2779828    
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No need for new seals and retainers. Those Edelbrock springs have a 110 lb pressure, the GM are 80 lbs, I'd say 80-90 max.
Rockauto has a good price on a Melling VS2229, I'll see if that is OK.

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DonSSDD 
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11-09-19 07:13 AM - Post#2779831    
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The Melling is fine, (Rockauto shows me a price of CDN$1.96 each) or a Sealed Power VS1641. Melling are a good brand.

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11-09-19 07:51 AM - Post#2779834    
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Thank you for all of your help!!! Will let you know how it goes. Again thank you. Lamar



 
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11-09-19 09:04 AM - Post#2779837    
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Just ordered them from Rockauto, supposed to receive them Thursday. Will keep you informed. Thank you 😊 and also your friend.



 
DonSSDD 
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11-09-19 05:35 PM - Post#2779862    
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Thanks, that’s why we get paid the big bucks.

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PLS 
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11-10-19 05:24 AM - Post#2779885    
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it should be doubled!!



 
DonSSDD 
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11-10-19 05:29 AM - Post#2779886    
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  • PLS Said:
Just ordered them from Rockauto, supposed to receive them Thursday. Will keep you informed. Thank you 😊 and also your friend.


Just curious what the cost was, it seemed extremely low. I wondered if rock auto were getting out of them as a listing or something.

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PLS 
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11-10-19 11:16 AM - Post#2779905    
    In response to DonSSDD

Yes they did seem extremely low compared to anywhere else. Total: tax and shipping $33.57



 
DonSSDD 
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11-10-19 11:20 AM - Post#2779906    
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A fast food lunch for you and the wife? Cheap.

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11-10-19 11:32 AM - Post#2779907    
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about what it cost us this afternoon after Church.



 


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