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Username Post: 1965 327 365hp orginal what's it worth?        (Topic#307136)
1956NY150 
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01-15-14 05:53 AM - Post#2416908    

Engine and 4 speed, looking for bell housing
Running when it was retired 5 years ago ran well
No air cleaner
I have no idea what's its worth,
But someone restoring a 65 vette may need it.
Thanks
Bob

1956 150 White/Blk 2Dr 421ci SHP Dart Blk,5sp,4:33 200 4R,3:89,8 pt roll cage, 3800#, >12,000 Power Tour Miles,6000 Drag Week miles,Drag Week 09, 010 11.60@115mph


 


Rick_L 
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01-16-14 05:07 PM - Post#2417429    
    In response to 1956NY150

Obviously worth much more to a 65 Vette owner, especially if the date codes match the car's date codes.



 
Drewboy 
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01-25-14 03:54 PM - Post#2420237    
    In response to 1956NY150

Bob, in my opinion you have a diamond in the rough. Someone with a 65 Resto would love to get their hands this little jewel. Check and write down all engine numbers and markings, including numbers under the valve covers. That should be a rare High HP little small block. Having the factory 4speed is definitly a ++. If this engine runs and will not have to be rebuilt it's worth the most, a good rebuildable is still worth plenty. This was a rare and desirable option in 65. Every dollar you sell this motor for will make a Rest worth that same dollar amount more and then some. Make sure you get several offers and make sure their are legit. Cash in Hand is Best. And don't be afraid to get one of those pens and mark the benjamins. Oh, by the way, I would start at about $10,000 get the word out.



 
bel-air 62 
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01-26-14 06:28 AM - Post#2420371    
    In response to Drewboy

Everybody thinks an engine is worth some fantastic price because it can be connected to a Corvette. All engines unless you pick it up from a rebuilder should be considered a core. If the serial number doesn't match the car the stampings don't mean much. The engine has value but $10,000 is redicules!



 
427SS65 
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01-26-14 08:52 AM - Post#2420398    
    In response to bel-air 62

I agree. About a year ago, I had a 65 HH motor rebuilt. Didn't cost any more than a normal 327 to rebuild. It is a numbers matching engine that matches all the other components in the car.

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TAT_2 
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01-27-14 02:48 PM - Post#2420870    
    In response to 1956NY150

1962 Roman Red Convertible With Red Interior, 327/250HP, 4-Speed Trans, Wonderbar Radio, Numbers Matching, This Is Serial #000027---Built During The First Day Of Production For The 1962 Corvettes!. . . . $54,900. . . . Only $5,490 down and $769/month for 7 yrs through J.J. Best Banc &

NOM

1962 Convertible, Roman Red with Black Interior and White Soft Top, 327/300HP (Not the original engine), 4-Speed, Wonderbar Radio, Removable Hard Top. . . . $44,900. . . . Only $4,490 down and $630/month for 7 yrs through J.J. Best Banc & Co.!*

THEN THERES NOT ORG BLOCK,BUT DATE CODED ETC,ETC,ETC,

SO IN THIS SENERO,THE ORG BRINGS 10K MORE.


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Revfan 
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10-15-14 11:15 PM - Post#2491293    
    In response to TAT_2

You can find 327 Corvette Engines, carb to pan running/rebuilt and I hate to use the prhase "all day long" but in this instance, I will, for 2-4K.
1967 Corvette 327 rebuilt $3000
1966 327 350 Horsepower - $3500 (crete)
1966 Corvette Engine - $3200 (Manchester, NH)
1967 corvette 327 engine - $1500 (avon ny)
Special High Performance Corvette Motor - $1500 (Bethel)
1965 350HP 327 V8 collectible engine - $2800 (Roslyn)


Blocks & Short blocks... $300-$1200.
1965-66 Corvette 327 Block - See Photos - $400 (Sacramento)


Now, the person who NEEDs the EXACT motor you have because of a group of silly little numbers on the pad (assuming yours hasn't been decked) will pay more, maybe a lot more....


But, no one who doesn't NEED that engine, is gonna spend more for it just because its believed to be a Corvette motor...
To the enthusiast, a NOM is a NOM regardless... and $10K would get you AN AWESOME new motor from a known builder.

If I may, I suggest that you offer a deal to the folks that THINK its worth $10K...

Let them have it for $7K! That still leaves $3K on the table for them to make a profit when they resell!
No?

I have a 67 Corvette with a 66 Corvette 327/300....
The motor is marked to THE 1966 Vette, VIN 194376s112869. If he ever comes a knockin' he can have it for the cost of a similar replacement 327...
Unless of course, somebody HERE wants to give me $10K



Edited by Revfan on 10-15-14 11:18 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
wagonmaster 
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10-16-14 04:34 AM - Post#2491316    
    In response to Revfan

I don't know if it's worth 10k, but it's worth WAY more than those engines listed if it is what was said. I have been led to many a motor and many a car over the years with a "Corvette motor" only to find out it's NOT! MANY sellers don't know the difference and some do, but hope that you don't! I'd advertise it in Hemmings and here in the classified section and also some of the Corvette periodicals (Vette Vues)....

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427SS65 
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10-16-14 08:02 PM - Post#2491512    
    In response to wagonmaster

It's all about the numbers!

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Revfan 
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11-28-14 01:09 AM - Post#2502146    
    In response to wagonmaster

  • Quote:
I don't know if it's worth 10k, but it's worth WAY more than those engines listed if it is what was said.



So you dismiss the 6-7 I posted out of hand as their owners don't know what they have? Interesting.

Its not rocket science determining whether its a Corvette motor or not.... GM Stamped the engine pad/blocks with SPECIFIC Corvette Codes

and if you are interested, you can Find them HERE Can it be faked? Sure.... anything can, even the Mona Lisa, but who is to say the OPs engine isn't one of them.

Again for refrence here are MORE motors/blockss for sale

BLOCK
1965-1966 327 CORVETTE Block - Std. Bore AND Other Blocks / Heads - $400 (Sacramento)

Complete Engine
1965 Corvette 327 engine Complete Original - $1500 (Modesto)
1967 SBC 327 / 300 hp - $1850

Mid Year Corvette Engines - Carb to pan can be had for $2-4K you can pay more if you like... but I don'w know why you would UNLESS you find the OM to your car...




 
wagonmaster 
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11-28-14 05:18 AM - Post#2502159    
    In response to Revfan

I have to think that the 365 HP engine with all the correct stuff would be worth WAY more than those prices!!

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stingray caretaker 
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01-16-16 07:04 AM - Post#2602457    
    In response to wagonmaster

If you didn't have the car it came out of its simply a core to rebuild, a grand at best. One must remember all Chevrolet engines are " Corvette " at heart. A stamp does not make a magical difference. Especially when the decked block is restamped to dupe a less knowledgeable buyer.
Personally I have never paid more for a carburetor car with or without the original block. Now fuel injection with the correct marking identifiers will definitely elevate the value. In my decades of search for the perfect dream car I have located, inspected, and purchased one true correct FI C-1 Corvette, in my price range of course. These options were bought to run with the best on the street or strip. Few knew the intricacies of the system and were replaced with carburetors frequently. I personally saw a 63 FI unit removed and thrown in a 55 gallon garbage can. Years later his brother proudly mentioned he sold it for fifty dollars.



 
stingray caretaker 
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01-16-16 05:08 PM - Post#2602573    
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Rev Fan;
Checking with an associate, found a 365hp 327 from a 65 Vette. Have the pad numbers and it does come back as a four speed manual HL pad with in the 7800 production #s.
He has the complete engine minus carb and exhaust manifolds, std. bore ( piston marked std ) for less than a grand. Heads are in a separate pile so I have to check what numbers apply. I still don't believe its worth the asking price but the owner seems to think so. Its been for sale for a long period of time with no takers. One odd thing he mentioned is the pad numbers seem to be blurred. He has owned this engine over twenty five years and no one in the days prior restamped numbers like todays activities. The second owner lives about six miles from my location so I feel it would be correct. Bad news is it was taken out of a wrecked Corvette 25 years ago so it would not get a proper home. I might get it for the Belair. I'm going to look at it next week.



 
427SS65 
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01-16-16 11:23 PM - Post#2602647    
    In response to stingray caretaker

The one I just rebuilt was a 65/4 speed and it's code is HH.

Probably not a good choice for a heavy B body, but would feel pretty good in a Nova! Not too much torque down low which is what you need for a heavy car.

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stingray caretaker 
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01-18-16 02:34 PM - Post#2603071    
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427 SS;
Do recall what the head casting numbers were ? Did you lower the compression, which cam specs, use standard pistons ? Which carb did you go with ?

Just fired my 427 in a 66 coupe last week. Had the wrong clutch fork in the bell housing. My fault for buying used and it did not have a part number. Apparently the seller, who claimed to have vast knowledge, must have left it at another location. New one on the way from GM. Pain R & R though.



 
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01-18-16 11:31 PM - Post#2603194    
    In response to stingray caretaker

JR,

It has 3782461 heads date coded A155 & A235. Block is 3782870. Stamp on block is F0127HH. Date of block casting is A-26-5. Differential is AP-01-25. Carb is original Holley 2818, p/n 3849804 with front jets 65 and rear jets 76, power valve is a 65. I rebuilt it with a new throttle plate and installed an anti-backfire kit while I was at it. The cam is, I believe, the original and the compression ratio is what it was. It belongs to my business partner and he still has the car. It's 99% finished. Needs the interior Knoch door panels installed and new vent window cranks. I rebuilt the AM-FM radio to original specs.

I also completely refurbished the dash pod and all instrumentation with new gauges where needed. My job also included the overhaul of the original distributor and tach drive, but replaced the original with an Accel unit with a tach drive.

The transmission is not original and is an M21 out of a Los Angeles car. I rebuilt it and installed a Hurst shifter with a Muncie handle.

Check out the pictures of it on my Flickr site. Look for the second resto. That's me rebuilding the Holley! You can see my Impala SS, a 67 Chevelle SS396 and a Buick Grand National we rebuilt.

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stingray caretaker 
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01-23-16 07:44 AM - Post#2603989    
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Great album Tom;
With the 65 it appears you started with a rather crusty frame. I love west coast cars but sometimes you have to buy what is available. Having a garage full I can start on waking them from sleep to road ready.
Great Z-28 photos . One of the most imitated performance cars to date. Going back to the full size mid 60s cars, ..... always wanted to replace the 64 Impala I had. One of the best most trouble free transports I have owned, and fun to drive. Corvettes are full of style but never cared to drive them . Maybe this 427 coupe will change my mind. I really want to get the 63 post Bel air on the street. Long wheel base, roomy interior, classic performance looks, and not another in any parking lot or car show in my area. Texas climate has been good to the sheet metal. A new interior will definitely make it a favorite command center.
My wife started her motoring career with a 62 pea green four door Corvair. Complete with a gas heater it transported her through college. I bought her a replacement, a 67 Ford Fairlane XL, Brittney blue with a white final top. I remember it had no grease fittings and the suspension squeeked prior to repair.



 
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01-24-16 09:16 AM - Post#2604180    
    In response to stingray caretaker

Yes the frame was crusty. When I removed the body mounts, the welded on mounts just crumbled off the frame. Both sombreros and sockets were gone as well. Count8ing the shims was impossible cause they were gone!

My business partner and his son went to Bloomington one year and that's where they bought the car. Bob drove it home from IL to St. Louis. He said that people were honking and waving during the trip south. He thought they were just friendly and liked the car and he waved back.

Back to reality, they were waving because the driver side rear axle was bent severely and the tire was wobbling back and forth with 1.5" runout. I asked Bob if he felt anything while driving and he said there was a little shaking going on. I told him he should be thankful that he wasn't killed.

We both decided that the car was used in a Dukes of Hazzard episode.

Thanks for the nice comments on the photo albums. I have so many other pictures to add but never seems to be enough time!

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04-30-16 09:31 PM - Post#2625400    
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  • stingray caretaker Said:
......I personally saw a 63 FI unit removed and thrown in a 55 gallon garbage can. Years later his brother proudly mentioned he sold it for fifty dollars.



I remember going to the Pomona swap meet in about 1984 and seeing F.I. systems and F.I. parts sitting out on blankets for sale cheap. Few people knew how to work on them at that time and they were considered unreliable and a pain.


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05-02-16 02:32 PM - Post#2625783    
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I currently have a 63 coupe at paint, I had it on a rack for over 20 years. When I bought it, It was sold as original fuelie. But with a driver 350 in it . The FI complete engine w/air cleaner came with it. I later bought a spare FI unit with dist for it. Has the right core support. With that said, now that I've started working on it , I found the block (FE) 340 hp, front bonding strips damaged, appears to have left front hit. So now I'm going at some later Time sell all the Fuelie parts. I've purchased the Gm 525 hp ls3 package. Turning it into an automatic trans that my wife will be happy with. Also swapped entire braking system to 67 model. It will be Daytona blue, w/dark blue interior as original. With original hubcaps. Just a good reliable driver. As my 6 other vettes



 
bel-air 62 
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05-03-16 08:31 AM - Post#2625974    
    In response to Roger ODell

I like the way you toss in my other six Vettes as a brag. If you have a real car and engine it seems like the smart thing to do would be sell it to someone to preserve the car.



 
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05-03-16 03:59 PM - Post#2626086    
    In response to bel-air 62

I DONT THINK IT'S A BRAG,KINDA OF KNOWING ABOUT DIFFERENT YEARS ETC,ETC,. I OWNED 3 AT ONCE & IT WAS A MAJOR PITA KEEPING THEM ON THE ROAD SINCE I NEVER FARM'D ANY WORK OUT.

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PREVIOUS VETTE'S 58,68,70,76,78,85,90


QUOTE FROM HELEN
"WHY YOU LOOKING AT THAT? YA KNOW YA WANT ANOTHER VETTE"












 
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05-05-16 01:15 AM - Post#2626375    
    In response to Roger ODell

LS SWAP INFO YA MAY FIND INTERESTING OR NOT

09 PONTIAC- VIBE
08 PONTIAC- G6
93 VETTE - 40TH ANIV- RUBY RED- LT1/6-SPD/RAG TOP

PREVIOUS VETTE'S 58,68,70,76,78,85,90


QUOTE FROM HELEN
"WHY YOU LOOKING AT THAT? YA KNOW YA WANT ANOTHER VETTE"












 
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12-01-20 05:10 PM - Post#2809184    
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Well gentlemen, I have a 1967 Corvette 327 350 HP Original From Pan to Intake with Bell Housing, Clutch and Flywheel, Exhaust Manifolds in fact everything except the Fan.

It has lived the last 20 some odd years in a warehouse all by itself and noone will get it for 2 or 3k, hELL THERE THERE IS THAT MUCH DUST on it.

It is the real thing with 3892657 Castings and HT suffix Code. As far as I am concerned it can stay here until my Grandkids are old!



 
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12-06-20 04:29 PM - Post#2809482    
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To me the best city and highway engine was the 327/350.
A fellow in our office bought a new silver 4 speed coupe and went on a weekend trip. Monday AM he asked if I wanted to buy it because it was very loud and poor mpg. For LA the freeway was open so had him get on it. 1st, 2nd and third pulled great.
I waited and waited for fourth which never came. I had him hold the clutch to the floor and I shifted to 4th. He had left in 3rd for the 350 mile round trip! He had only driven a three speed b4.



 
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12-13-20 07:23 AM - Post#2809890    
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Wow Mel, you would think the gear pattern on the console would alert him to the extra gear!!

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