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Username Post: New to board. 68 Impala project        (Topic#296443)
cooljunk 
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04-21-13 05:34 PM - Post#2337776    

Just got a project 68 Impala and looking to this site for help along the way.
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A few spots of rust to repair.
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Here is the good part. 454 BBC and TH400 rebuilt.
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VintageCarryall 
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04-21-13 05:46 PM - Post#2337782    
    In response to cooljunk

Assuming the rest of the body is essentially rustfree and the frame is solid; you have a very nice foundation to build on.

This I'll say: please install a decent set of front disc brakes and 3 point seatbelts for safety reasons! Brakes from either a 1969-70 Chevy big car or 1969-82 Corvette will work along with a late 1960's big car master cylinder/booster/proporti oning valve setop.

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cooljunk 
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04-21-13 05:52 PM - Post#2337785    
    In response to cooljunk

OK, got that first post to work with pictures. javascript:void(0)
The plan for the Impala is to patch the rust spots, lower it! The PO installed HD front springs, thus the 4X4 look, wil try cutting coils in front. Have learned from this site that S10 front springs also work.As to the rear, I jacked it up today to powerwash the underside and found some surprises!!
The rear axle not centered, panard bar bent, rear of the car held up with wood blocks, and the right upper control arm and frame bracket missing.
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aghaga 
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04-21-13 06:45 PM - Post#2337805    
    In response to cooljunk

I have seen 2x4's between the coils but nothing like this. What is your location?



 
cooljunk 
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04-21-13 06:48 PM - Post#2337806    
    In response to aghaga

Michigan



 
59fins 
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04-22-13 06:34 AM - Post#2337905    
    In response to cooljunk

The control arm brackets come up on eBay from time to time, someone probably switched the rear end and did not have that bar and bracket that mounts to the frame, my 67 is a 10 bolt and does not have the l bracket/ bar on the rear end at all, I purchased the bar for when I switch to 12 bolt with the second bracket/ bar, so it is not necessary to have 2 on the rear to work properly, but all you need is the bracket (bolt holes are in the frame) and the bar is a direct fit

Bill H.
67 Impala SS




 
cooljunk 
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04-22-13 07:03 AM - Post#2337920    
    In response to 59fins

  • 59fins Said:
The control arm brackets come up on eBay from time to time, someone probably switched the rear end and did not have that bar and bracket that mounts to the frame, my 67 is a 10 bolt and does not have the l bracket/ bar on the rear end at all, I purchased the bar for when I switch to 12 bolt with the second bracket/ bar, so it is not necessary to have 2 on the rear to work properly, but all you need is the bracket (bolt holes are in the frame) and the bar is a direct fit


Thanks for the info. It has a 12 bolt in it so that is prolly the answer. I see the holes in the frame so I will try to come up with a bracket and control arm.



 
aghaga 
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04-22-13 07:54 AM - Post#2337928    
    In response to cooljunk

Make sure the arm is from a 67-70 as the 65-66 are longer.



 
Impala65SS 
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04-22-13 09:22 AM - Post#2337953    
    In response to cooljunk

Cool car, remember the spring rate will essentially go up if you shorten the springs. If it's HD springs, the spring rate will definitely be higher than otherwise. Personally I think the higher look has an "old school hi-per"-feel to it but of course the handling will improve with a lower center of gravity, I'd use softer springs for it though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXn2QVipK2o&a mp;fea...


 
mjc1 
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04-23-13 12:54 PM - Post#2338339    
    In response to Impala65SS

Global West sells the upper rear frame brackets for $39 each if you can't find one.





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59fins 
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04-24-13 06:18 AM - Post#2338581    
    In response to cooljunk

BTW- Welcome to Chevytalk, best Chevrolet Forum on line!
No question is a dumb question if you don't know the answer.

Bill H.
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cooljunk 
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04-25-13 04:02 AM - Post#2338845    
    In response to 59fins

I have a set of old and crusty Keystone mags with the car. Since this is a low budget project any ideas for rehabbing them? Polish? paint? powder?



 
cooljunk 
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04-30-13 12:14 PM - Post#2340544    
    In response to cooljunk

Got the bent panhard bar out today. what a job, had to use the gas wrench.
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Anyone know how long this is supposed to be? A friend makes street rod control arms, think I will have him make an adjustable one.



Edited by cooljunk on 04-30-13 12:42 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
cooljunk 
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04-30-13 12:21 PM - Post#2340547    
    In response to cooljunk

Also put the panel below the rear bumper on for fitment. The only mounting I could find was 2 small bolts at the center. I know there has to be something supporting the outer ends!
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wheelman 
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04-30-13 03:31 PM - Post#2340609    
    In response to cooljunk

There are 2 bolts that attached to the liscence plate bracket and one bolt on each end that attach from inside the lower rear quarter panels

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cooljunk 
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05-02-13 03:41 AM - Post#2341107    
    In response to wheelman

  • wheelman Said:
There are 2 bolts that attached to the liscence plate bracket and one bolt on each end that attach from inside the lower rear quarter panels


Thanks, found them. The quarters were patched and no holes drilled.



 
cooljunk 
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05-06-13 03:44 AM - Post#2342366    
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Cut 2 coils off the rear.

Before and after.



The wheels and tires are too big with 3" BS rubbing on outer edge. Also with the cut coils if I drop the axle from the frame (jack it up at the frame) the springs come out of the upper spring seat and won't go back in. Will have to limit the axle drop to keep the springs in place. Shorter shocks or?
On to the front coils next.



 
cooljunk 
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05-06-13 06:07 PM - Post#2342656    
    In response to cooljunk

Cut 2 coils from the HD coils up front, not enough! Cut 3 coils.






 
cooljunk 
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05-15-13 06:39 PM - Post#2345825    
    In response to cooljunk

Help wanted with wheels. I got a set of chrome wheels.

Would like to make them look more like this.

Any ideas on paint type to get a look like that for the black areas?




Edited by cooljunk on 05-15-13 06:40 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
cooljunk 
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05-15-13 06:50 PM - Post#2345831    
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Also got my panhard bar done. I started with a piece of angle iron drilled 9/16th holes 35" centers and installed it for mock up. An inch off, 36" just right.

Had my friend Fred at Vintage Rodder Burton Mi. make an adjustable bar 36" long, The bushings are a little narrower so some shimming is needed. Came out great. Forgot to take a picture before install






 
cooljunk 
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05-15-13 07:00 PM - Post#2345835    
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Got new air shocks. The old ones were allowing the axle to drop too much and the cut springs were coming out of the pocket. Shortest I could find was 20.7" extended. Worked but marginal.

Decided to move the upper mount 1" inboard to shorten the drop.

Now I can jack the car up without the springs popping out.



 
cooljunk 
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05-19-13 06:41 PM - Post#2347136    
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Some progress on the wheels. Started with a wire wheel on a die grinder.

Too much work and scratching chrome. went to stripper.

That works better.

Need some work with die grinder on lug area, then will try cast blast paint.



 
cooljunk 
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05-21-13 01:32 PM - Post#2347704    
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Finally got around to starting the 454. A bad noise!!! Pulled it out.

Found rod bearings 1&2 in bad shape, spun.


Had a good 454 in the shop so I will install it.

The headers were hanging below the frame, would have hit with the new low stance so will go with iron manifolds. I am trying to get this car on the road for the Woodward Dream cruise in August.



 
VintageCarryall 
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05-21-13 06:03 PM - Post#2347777    
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That just bites. At least you caught the problem before you hit the road but still...........

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Airflow 
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05-29-13 10:46 PM - Post#2350210    
    In response to cooljunk

Good job! That'll be an awsome car! Love your picture of the rearend. Lovely back lights!
Good thing you got the shorten rear sjocks and don't have to worry about the rear coils anymore!
Looking forward for more updates!
What color will you be painting it?



 
wheelman 
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05-30-13 06:16 AM - Post#2350264    
    In response to Airflow

I'm wondering why your rear sat so high ? Even with stock suspension and coil overs mine sits closer to your after picture ..

I still have issues with the ride feel even with S-10 springs and adjustable drag shocks the front is too rigid I just can't get it figured out

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cooljunk 
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06-02-13 02:15 PM - Post#2351250    
    In response to wheelman

More progress on the 68, better 454 installed and fired up;

Got 2 of the wheels painted,used Dupli-color cast iron.



Have not decided on a color, maybe white probably satin finish as it will not be pro body work and I like satin look.



 
alocker 
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06-03-13 07:11 PM - Post#2351696    
    In response to cooljunk

Keep up the good work. Interesting that the car has later style motor mounts.



 
wheelman 
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06-03-13 07:13 PM - Post#2351698    
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I used Dupli Color Rally Wheel paint in Ardent Silver

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cooljunk 
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06-07-13 12:07 PM - Post#2352890    
    In response to wheelman

OK, time for some help from the board. I started to fab some shift linkage from my column to the TH 400


The shift lever was not in the column so I put it in and pined it. The lever moves ok and feels like it is working right but the lever at the bottom of the column is not moving. I can push it(the bottom lever) up and down without moving the upper shift lever. Any ideas? diagram of the workings of the column?




 


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