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Username Post: justinjames 1952 Chevy 2 Door Hardtop        (Topic#293041)
rrausch 
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02-06-13 07:04 PM - Post#2314370    
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Dec 13, 1957?

1953 210 Convertible, 261 with dual Carter YF 966S carbs, P.S., Remote Bendix P.B. Booster... shade-tree restoration about done.




 
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02-06-13 07:45 PM - Post#2314386    
    In response to rrausch

That's what I thought originally, but in this post:

https://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/showtopic.php?ti...

Gene thought it was probably a replacement block cast in 1967.

1951 Bel Air - January build date.


 
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02-07-13 08:13 AM - Post#2314484    
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Yes, if the casting number of the block was 3764476, then it is almost certainly a 1967 casting date.

1953 210 Convertible, 261 with dual Carter YF 966S carbs, P.S., Remote Bendix P.B. Booster... shade-tree restoration about done.




 
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02-08-13 09:19 AM - Post#2314822    
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I haven't been able to get the longer casting number off the block yet - but I did get this off the block where the start motor sits. I need to get something more effective then windex to get that gunk off to get the numbers....

CON <V> 4. I'm not sure if its an actual -v- or just grease/gunk/etc. But its consistent with what I found on the head. After that and closer to the distributor "E 229". I sure hope this indicates a newer block. I'd love to keep it the same (not to mention the cost of rebuilding early motor).

Anyway - you guys are amazing for sharing your knowledge. Thank you.

1952 Chevy 2 Door Hardtop
Great body - straight
No interior to speak of - the spring pokes me in the...
Engine is officially a work in progress


 
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02-08-13 09:27 AM - Post#2314824    
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The "Con 1-2-3-4" etc numbers were a mystery for many years until some old CT member (not sure who) remembered it stood for Conveyer 1-2-3-4. So your block was cast on Conveyer #4, on May 22, 1959. It's definitely a not a dipper engine.

Mine was cast on May 15, 1959 on Conveyer #2, so we are practically neighbors!



1953 210 Convertible, 261 with dual Carter YF 966S carbs, P.S., Remote Bendix P.B. Booster... shade-tree restoration about done.




 
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02-08-13 11:27 AM - Post#2314859    
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I sure like the looks of that Wayne Side cover!

1951 Bel Air - January build date.


 
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02-08-13 11:36 AM - Post#2314861    
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At first I put a Cliffords side cover on it and that one was complete crap. It was wavy, thin, and hadn't even been sanded or polished. It was just a gray casting fresh from the foundry. And the crazy part was it was the same price as the Wayne, which I got from Patricks. Besides being ground flat and polished, the Wayne was also twice as heavy as the Cliffords cover. I guess most guys caught on because Cliffords no longer sells either their valve cover or the side cover.

1953 210 Convertible, 261 with dual Carter YF 966S carbs, P.S., Remote Bendix P.B. Booster... shade-tree restoration about done.




 
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02-10-13 06:09 PM - Post#2315526    
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Lots of stuff happening. Found a guy who is selling a complete rebuilt 216 engine. Includes generator, and voltage regulator. He wants 1k for it. He was going to use it for his own project but decided to drop in a 350. I'm very tempted. I trust the guy - hes owns his own shop, and has a solid reputation. Problem for me is, its now the 235. What are your thoughts?

I redid the brakes yesterday. Getting that drum off was a PITA!!! Wow. I also did break lines. I want to rebuild the mater cylinder - but ran out of time. I'm terrified of the break lines - the fittings are so frozen onto the lnes - I can myself twisting them off the pipe.

I'm pulling the motor out next weekend, and will do the engine bay nice. After that - She is off to the body shop for paint (once I decide on the lucky person to get Beatrice).

Ohh anyone ever do business with ciadella interiors? I'm really tempted. I also really like lebaron bonney... Anyone have experience doing the install? It's a big job, and I've never done this part before.



1952 Chevy 2 Door Hardtop
Great body - straight
No interior to speak of - the spring pokes me in the...
Engine is officially a work in progress


 
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02-10-13 08:39 PM - Post#2315573    
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Wait for the 235 full pressure.

1953 210 Convertible, 261 with dual Carter YF 966S carbs, P.S., Remote Bendix P.B. Booster... shade-tree restoration about done.




 
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03-12-13 05:13 PM - Post#2325563    
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Thought I would post some progress...
Pulled the engine and front clip. I'm currently working on the mechanical stuff.
1) Pull front clip off (check)
2) Remove Engine (check)
3) Rebuild Master Break Cyl (inprocess)
4) Replace the old nasty rubber break lines (inprocess)
5) Rebuild the break wheel cyl
6) Degrease the engine bay (inprocess)
7) Paint engine bay nice and pretty
8) Transplant new engine



Its amazing how fast these cars come apart...



Dave a friend of mine was nice enough to bring his son over and help with pulling the engine (as well as some other issues that came up). This guy is the MAN! Thanks Dave!!



Post Dave intervention!




This rust on the roof literally has kept me up night. I've been terrified that it had rusted through over the long sleep in the storage unit. The guy who helped me paint this years ago wasn't what you would call a pro. This is the rust spot, complete with bubbling and cracking. I think this is why preparation for painting is so important



All the various colors of my Chevy!! Hehe its been painted a few times!!!
I couldn't take the mystery of what was hiding under there... So I went at it.

Well I'm pretty sure that the breaks will get sorted out in the next little while. I think this weekend. I hope.

1952 Chevy 2 Door Hardtop
Great body - straight
No interior to speak of - the spring pokes me in the...
Engine is officially a work in progress


Edited by justinjames on 03-12-13 05:23 PM. Reason for edit: Image problems....

 
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03-12-13 08:11 PM - Post#2325612    
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Incredible! I count 14 distinct layers of paint.



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03-13-13 04:28 AM - Post#2325668    
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Please roll the car out and share some pics love the 50-54 hard top cars

Winter is a grand old time,
there are no ifs or buts/But remember all that salt and grime/Can rust your bolts and freeze your -...


 
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03-13-13 07:34 AM - Post#2325734    
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  • rrausch Said:
Wait for the 235 full pressure.


yes wait for a 235 motor.

GET ER DONE .. AS I GET OLDER I LIKE FAST CARS I CAN STILL DRIVE. AND VERY SLOW WOMEN I CAN CATCH while still able..arnie garrison


 
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03-13-13 12:51 PM - Post#2325801    
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I just re-read from the first post to bring myself back to speed. I love the history of your car. Is the motor toast or just not running? I might be tempted to try to get it started so you could drive it this Sumer while you wait for a new one.

I pulled a working 216 out of my 49 and bought a 235 that needed to be rebuilt...the rebuild cost more than expected. To do it again, I would try to find a rebuilt 236 or better yet a 261. You could check Inliners.org. They have a classified and you can sometimes fine a rebuilt engine for less $$ than you would spend doing it yourself.

Don't fear the break lines. You can get pre-flared lines with new fittings. Or you can buy a good flare tool and make your own. I did it and I don't have near the credentials that you do!

Bill Gommel

49 chevy Styleline (Sold), 51 Styleline 2 dr Special, 235 (from a 61 truck) bored .060 over, Dual Carter/Webers, Fenton Headers, T5- 5 speed with a 56 rear end.


 
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03-17-13 06:06 AM - Post#2326926    
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Awesome car! Cant wait to see you driving it around SLC.



 
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01-19-14 05:37 PM - Post#2418297    
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Thanks! fyi - I'm going to necro my own thread...


Went through the breaks, since the engine was at the machine shop. I had a frozen brake drum, and after a few hours of trying to pry it off, hitting it with a shot hammer - slowly I came to the realization it just wasn't going to be a casual affair.

[image]http://s1177.photobucket.com/user/jk_justinjames/m edia/52/AA36821D-CD32-448 3-B34C-35AB8BF12A87.jpg.html]

I rigged this to create some outward tension on the drum... and smacked the crap out of it again. It broke free just before the 2x4 which was starting to split apart. I took a pic of the bent bolts.. just for fun. If I were to build this again - a slit is better idea then a large hole for the arms. Fyi - I think this is about the best and only use for a harbor freight gear puller.



And the obligatory victory shot -



on the topic of the engine, I discovered why the engine felt starved of fuel. No wear at all on the lobe, none at all!,


fun shot of the block -


tear down was a lot of fun -


another -





1952 Chevy 2 Door Hardtop
Great body - straight
No interior to speak of - the spring pokes me in the...
Engine is officially a work in progress


Edited by justinjames on 01-19-14 05:46 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
justinjames 
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01-19-14 05:45 PM - Post#2418301    
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While waiting on the machine shop and forthcoming engine, I have started the dash. I sprung the passenger door years ago and it never closed right after, and there is some rust. So its off!



Going to rewrire the whole car... and paint the dash and firewall next weekend, I hope.



Incredible how much work lies between here and the road!

1952 Chevy 2 Door Hardtop
Great body - straight
No interior to speak of - the spring pokes me in the...
Engine is officially a work in progress


 
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01-19-14 06:36 PM - Post#2418316    
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Incredible how much work lies between here and the road!

OOH Yes I can understand!

Fitz.

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Edited by Fitzback on 01-19-14 06:37 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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01-19-14 08:15 PM - Post#2418348    
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Yes, BUT... as you proceed you can be very proud of the work you have accomplished. That is going to be one beautiful car.

1953 210 Convertible, 261 with dual Carter YF 966S carbs, P.S., Remote Bendix P.B. Booster... shade-tree restoration about done.




 
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01-20-14 10:41 AM - Post#2418525    
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That broken wheel puller reminded me of one of my first times working on one of these fifties chevies. Hubby was working 56 hours a week at boeing so we had no time to work on our 57 chevy truck. One day I decided to do the brakes myself so I could drive it. (We had it delivered by the guy we bought it from....he drove it there with no brakes.....crazy. This was in 1991) He told me the drum should come right off with a wheel puller. I put it on and kept going and it never came off. I about turned that drum inside out. He told me to just keep going it would come off (on the phone on his lunch break).....well it turns out the drivers side drum was riveted somehow on the 57 truck and it didn't come off with a wheel puller. We had to go find a drum...which turned in to meeting one of the coolest old dudes ever and he had acres and acres of old chevy truck parts.....So it was a great lesson all the way around. You should have seen hubby's face when he saw the drum, though. He couldn't believe I could bend it like that....and that I kept going.....but I got that sucker off.....lol. Oops.

Yours is coming along....keep plugging away. It will be on the road someday. Best to take your time and do a good job.

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Edited by AngieWeaver on 01-20-14 10:43 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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01-20-14 05:07 PM - Post#2418654    
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HA! I love it - "turn the drum inside out"! So frustrating trying to get them free when frozen.

1952 Chevy 2 Door Hardtop
Great body - straight
No interior to speak of - the spring pokes me in the...
Engine is officially a work in progress


 
justinjames 
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01-20-14 05:09 PM - Post#2418656    
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The hardtop is pretty special... She will be something special for sure.

1952 Chevy 2 Door Hardtop
Great body - straight
No interior to speak of - the spring pokes me in the...
Engine is officially a work in progress


 
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04-14-14 12:36 PM - Post#2444549    
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I had to destroy the drums on the original rear-end that was under my car when I first got it. Had to use a cold-chisel all around the axle and stud area, and tear them suckers apart piece by piece.

1953 210 Convertible, 261 with dual Carter YF 966S carbs, P.S., Remote Bendix P.B. Booster... shade-tree restoration about done.




 
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04-26-14 04:59 AM - Post#2447734    
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My 52 Bel Air has that same head too, 3836848 and the adaptor for the temp sender. The other codes he gave you are on the other side of the head above and between 2 and 3 spark-plug.
Mine says B49 then 848 but it says 850 not 350 directly below the 848. Do we both have replacement heads? Also my block casting number is 3835911 which comes up as 53-55 235, supposedly for a first series 54 pickup.
I notice both our cars have the tall turret like engine mounts, and I understand this was only done for a short time and not on all models?
Any thoughts on what we have? Clive

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09-07-15 02:44 PM - Post#2574071    
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I made a mistake when I put different 235 in my 51 , I didn't think about tranny my 3 speed jumps out 2nd gear .now I have to take it out again when I changed motor it was already out . I'll put new bearing & seals for sure , that should have been a given . Good luck Dig from MN.



 
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11-02-16 01:36 PM - Post#2659645    
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Been away for so long.
I hear you on the turret engine mounts - I really don't know, but I really like it.

Just wanted to post an update after being away.

I gave up on the guy who was to do the body and paint - My wife finished school and moved back and the car needed to a new home. So... rather than store it, I found a new shop.

It is now being worked on, and hopefully things go well. I am going to have it done right. I will post updates. The current goal is to have it on the road in spring time.

1952 Chevy 2 Door Hardtop
Great body - straight
No interior to speak of - the spring pokes me in the...
Engine is officially a work in progress


 
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12-05-16 04:53 PM - Post#2664738    
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Things are moving very well!

My father, (not so little) girl, and father at the shop. Crazy to think her Great Grandfather drove the car. After having it to date almost 26 years and always wanting to restore it to it's former glory it's hard to understate how exciting this is.

For fun:
[image]https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxcfN-9EVbLse nRaaGZfcFBKQU0/view?usp=s haring[/image]
I want to see this end up as a fun and enjoyable daily driver....



 
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