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Username Post: Does this carpet look right for a 66 4 speed        (Topic#291216)
65acadian 
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12-24-12 10:54 PM - Post#2300847    

I ordered a carpet for a 66 with a 4 speed. This is what I got. I'm not convinced it's correct. Does anyone have any thoughts on it?





 


66cayne 
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12-25-12 09:46 AM - Post#2300924    
    In response to 65acadian

Looks like it is for a bench seat Chevelle with a four speed. Chevelles have a bigger shifter hump and need the formed carpet hump. A 65/66 Impala does not need a special 4 speed carpet. The standard carpet fits the small shifter hump just fine.



 
65acadian 
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12-27-12 08:46 PM - Post#2301632    
    In response to 66cayne

It's supposed to be a B body carpet though. I haven't confirmed it by taking measurements. I will certainly be able to tell if it's Chevelle if I try it on the floor I would think. I'm sure it would be too narrow and too short.

Anyone else have carpet experience with a 4 speed 65 to 67 B body?



 
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12-27-12 09:09 PM - Post#2301637    
    In response to 65acadian

Hmmmm,
Could it be for a '68-9? Here's the hump on a '68


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65acadian 
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12-27-12 09:20 PM - Post#2301641    
    In response to Midnight Rider

Kinda the way I'm leaning too.



 
65acadian 
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11-02-16 10:01 PM - Post#2659707    
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I'm bumping my old thread up because I hope to do a 4 speed conversion this winter.

The carpet in the picture looks way off to me. Does the regular bench seat automatic carpet fit the 4 speeds in these cars? The hump is pretty minimal on them.

I'm sure the hump molded in to the carpet in the picture is correct for the 69 style hump but not for 66. Am I right?

I have read and read and read online and everyone seems to list a 4 speed carpet, 65-69 as being the same. That can't be right.



 
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11-03-16 06:27 AM - Post#2659739    
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I have done the conversion with the correct 4 speed hump, which as you say, is minimal. The standard carpet is what you need. Unfortunately there are several companies which describe a '4-speed' carpet for 65/66 B- bodies. It is NOT what you need. They will send you what the original poster has.



 
65acadian 
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11-03-16 08:20 PM - Post#2659847    
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Thank you! That confirms what I have suspected all along. I am actually the original poster from years back, and when I did the conversion on a different car, that is what they sent me. EVERYBODY I talked to said "that is the correct carpet for 65-69 4 speed" and I was so sure that was wrong for 67 and down, but all the suppliers say the same thing. I was starting to doubt what I was sure to be true.

Eventually I ordered a column shift carpet but I ended up selling the car before I finished it, so I never saw how it looked installed.

Now I have another car I plan to do the 4 speed conversion on and want to get the right carpet first try! I appreciate you replying.



 
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11-04-16 02:02 PM - Post#2659932    
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Glad it was helpful. My car was a 3-on-tree, now looks great with the Hurst 4 speed installed. The only problem is, then you are going to want to install a 12 bolt rear too...



 
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11-04-16 04:00 PM - Post#2659944    
    In response to 65acadian

mine in my 65 impala was a little big around trans tunnel .got a can of 3m adhesive and house carpet pad,built up till snug.cheap fix.



 
65acadian 
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11-04-16 06:01 PM - Post#2659959    
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"The only problem is, then you are going to want to install a 12 bolt rear too... "

It already has one! 3.07 12 bolt, no posi.

This is actually a Canadian Pontiac (Impala chassis under a Pontiac body, in case you didn't already know that). The floor pan is identical to an Impala floor pan.

Although not all have them, it is real common for Canadian Pontiacs built in 65 and 66 to have 12 bolts, I'm not sure why.

My car is a 2 door post 283, 3 on the tree with a factory 12 bolt. My uncle had a 65 4 door, 6 cylinder, 3 on the tree, 12 bolt. I've heard say that all 65-66 Canadian Pontiacs with F40 suspension came with 12 bolts and from what I've seen, it's true.



Edited by 65acadian on 11-04-16 06:02 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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11-04-16 06:03 PM - Post#2659960    
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  • grechevy Said:
mine in my 65 impala was a little big around trans tunnel .got a can of 3m adhesive and house carpet pad,built up till snug.cheap fix.



Did you order for a 4 speed or just the regular carpet?




 
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11-05-16 06:51 AM - Post#2660005    
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carpet was for factory 4 speed.



 
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11-05-16 04:18 PM - Post#2660055    
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I forgot to ask, is this with a bench seat, or do you have a console?



 
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11-06-16 09:58 PM - Post#2660283    
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The aftermarket people are clueless most of the time as to what really fits. I have found so many mistakes and misinformation in their catalogs many times. They say the part will fit but most of the time it is not the correct part. The only difference in a 4 speed carpet is a hole for shifter that you have to cut out.



 
65acadian 
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11-06-16 11:28 PM - Post#2660292    
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You mean for 65-67 I assume?



Edited by 65acadian on 11-06-16 11:28 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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11-07-16 09:53 PM - Post#2660515    
    In response to 65acadian

Yes. '65-'67



 
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11-07-16 10:37 PM - Post#2660522    
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Cool, thanks.



 
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11-08-16 08:53 AM - Post#2660554    
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If you want your 4 speed conversion to look factory you will need to find the unique shifter boot and carpet cut-out rubber grommet that covers the carpet hole where the shifter comes through. The boots are being reproduced but the supply is erratic. They are listed on ebay from time to time. The grommet should be the same color as the carpet. I don't think anyone is reproducing them for B-bodies however I believe the early ChevyII piece is very similar. See below for what I mean.

»http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a251/kwhizz/Bi sc...«





Edited by 66cayne on 11-08-16 09:03 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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11-08-16 07:40 PM - Post#2660639    
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Odd shape to that one. The ones I have seen were more square like the boot base retaining ring only an inch smaller than the ring.



 
65acadian 
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11-08-16 09:15 PM - Post#2660648    
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I have the rubber shift boot and the metal ring for it, but I don't have the color matching ring for the carpet.

I see the shift hump is reproduced but hear it fits like crap. Unless I can get the one from Wisconsin which I hear is expensive but fits.



 
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11-08-16 10:12 PM - Post#2660656    
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I got a trim ring from Hubbard's. They didn't have one in Fawn so I got a black one and dyed it.

»https://www.impalaparts.com/products/6466CSMRD/19 6...«

-Clint
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65acadian 
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11-08-16 10:33 PM - Post#2660658    
    In response to Cleatus

That one is not technically correct for 66, is it?

My car is a clone but I am hoping to keep it looking as authentic as I can (other than the Hurst shifter)

Did the ring fit good? If so, would you have pics of it installed?



 
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11-08-16 10:41 PM - Post#2660659    
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I'm waiting on new carpet before I install it but since you need to cut the hole for it to fit, it should fit as good as your knife skills allow.

-Clint
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65acadian 
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11-08-16 10:51 PM - Post#2660660    
    In response to Cleatus

I was worried that because it looks like it is made to be a bit universal (I don't think 64 uses the same ring as 66 originally) it may not fit over the boot correctly.



 
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11-09-16 07:37 AM - Post#2660681    
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I used the repro hump. And yes, it fit like crap. After reworking it for about an hour with a hammer and dolly it fits very well and looks good. Once you have it fit to the floor contour properly you you can use a marker/scrawl to outline it on the floor. You will want to cut the floor within a 1/2-3/4" or so inside of the outline. Its a big hole, not just a small opening for the stick to poke through. There has to be room for the entire shifter/linkage to fit.



 
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11-09-16 08:52 AM - Post#2660687    
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Are you referring to the common '66 repro hump? I got one and am trying really hard to find something that fits my '65 better before I start hammering the repro to fit.

-Clint
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11-09-16 09:11 AM - Post#2660688    
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Anyone got pics of the repro and how bad the fit is?



 
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11-09-16 09:56 AM - Post#2660697    
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»http://m.ebay.com/itm/331107293264?_mwB anner=1«

The hump is too flat to contour the '65 tunnel. It will take quite a bit of "massaging" to get it to fit right. Finding the factory '65 4-speed hump is like trying to find unicorn tears, though.

-Clint
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11-09-16 10:33 AM - Post#2660705    
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  • 66cayne Said:
If you want your 4 speed conversion to look factory you will need to find the unique shifter boot and carpet cut-out rubber grommet that covers the carpet hole where the shifter comes through. The boots are being reproduced but the supply is erratic. They are listed on ebay from time to time. The grommet should be the same color as the carpet. I don't think anyone is reproducing them for B-bodies however I believe the early ChevyII piece is very similar. See below for what I mean.

»http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a251/kwhizz/Bi sc...«





Boots haven't been available for a long time, and from speaking with the guy who did them, may not be ever again.

Donny




 


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