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Username Post: Project update        (Topic#263333)
wagonman100 
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05-21-11 11:36 AM - Post#2093126    

Here's some shots from a couple of weeks ago. The body was removed from the frame and the frame and other components are at the powder coaters. Should be getting a call any day now saying everything is done. Then the body will rejoin the frame, the suspension will be reassembled and then, unfortunately, the project will be back in hiatus mode until more work gets done on the house and garage. The Nomad in the background is not mine. It belongs to the shop working on my car and it is actually in worse condition than mine. Hard to believe.







Jay
Friends don’t let friends drive Fords.

1999 Silverado Z71 4X4 extra-cab short bed
1983 Malibu Fauxmad - tubbed
1978 El Camino Kustomized
1972 Monte Carlo
1957 210 handyman wagon
1957 Nomad sport wagon
1957 Cameo Carrier


 


62sedan 
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05-21-11 03:32 PM - Post#2093195    
    In response to wagonman100

wagonman,

Thanks for posting the updated pics. It's nice to see progress being made on this one-of-a-kind wagon, and am looking forward to seeing her finished and on the road.

One question..... what size Rally wheels and tires are on the front end, please? Might they be 5" wide KH production wheels? Thanks for any insight you may provide.

Chuck






 
jb2wheeler 
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05-21-11 05:40 PM - Post#2093259    
    In response to 62sedan

We do appericate the photos and wait with baited breath for it to be finished, altho we know that Rome wasn't built in a day. JB

If you can't hum it, it ain't music! http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&am p...


 
wagonman100 
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05-22-11 09:09 AM - Post#2093465    
    In response to jb2wheeler

Thanks for the comments guys. I can't wait to see her finished either. It's been off the road for going on 18 years now. There are a few issues with the body to sort out and then I can concentrate on other things like wiring, brakes and lines, fuel lines, what motor and trans I will be using (though I know it will be supercharged and fuel injected), and so on. I plan to get her in primer and install the motor and trans and drive her around to work out any bugs before I tear out the motor and trans and paint her.

The rallies are 15"X5" from Wheel Vintiques. I think I am going to order another set or have these re-powdercoated as the old powdercoat is no longer the color I want and it has lifted here and there and started to rust in some places. I will run disc brake caps with the rallies. I also want a set of billet wheels to occassionally switch them out and change the look of the wagon, if finances allow.

I'll post pics of the frame when it comes out of the powder coaters and the suspension is reassembled. Though it won't have the air bags in it yet. I'm waiting to buy that system until later.

Jay
Friends don’t let friends drive Fords.

1999 Silverado Z71 4X4 extra-cab short bed
1983 Malibu Fauxmad - tubbed
1978 El Camino Kustomized
1972 Monte Carlo
1957 210 handyman wagon
1957 Nomad sport wagon
1957 Cameo Carrier


 
knightfan2691 
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06-19-11 12:07 PM - Post#2105446    
    In response to wagonman100

Lookin' good, Jay!

Nice to see it out in the sunlight! Hope progress has been continuing....



Cort | 37.m.IL.pigValve.pacemaker | 5 Monte Carlos + 1 Caprice Classic | * RT_06.2011_us66+NW USA
MCs.CC + CHD.models.HO.legos.RadioShows + RoadTrips.us66 = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort
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wagonman100 
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06-20-11 04:35 AM - Post#2105642    
    In response to knightfan2691

It is Cort. She's back home now. I will get some pics posted soon. I have the powder coaters bill to pay and then I will be done spending money on this project for a while. She'll be sitting for a while since I need to work on the house and garage again. Even that is on hold right now because I am helping a neighbor get some trees and overgrowth cut down in her yard.

Jay
Friends don’t let friends drive Fords.

1999 Silverado Z71 4X4 extra-cab short bed
1983 Malibu Fauxmad - tubbed
1978 El Camino Kustomized
1972 Monte Carlo
1957 210 handyman wagon
1957 Nomad sport wagon
1957 Cameo Carrier


 
Vista Cruiser 
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06-20-11 04:30 PM - Post#2105915    
    In response to wagonman100

Looks great Jay!

What are you doing for side glass? Lexan? Cut and temper?





 
wagonman100 
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06-21-11 04:42 AM - Post#2106068    
    In response to Vista Cruiser

I'd like to do just flat glass. Right now, the B and C-pillar angles don't match, so that isn't possible. I'll have to get some plywood in there to see how much they are off. If I can make them match without making the window look strange in the opening, I will do that. I don't want ot use Lexan and I priced custom tempered. It's really not too expensive, but if I ever need replacement, the company owns the molds and I will be screwed if they go out of business. Plus I will have to wait a fairly long time to get it.

Jay
Friends don’t let friends drive Fords.

1999 Silverado Z71 4X4 extra-cab short bed
1983 Malibu Fauxmad - tubbed
1978 El Camino Kustomized
1972 Monte Carlo
1957 210 handyman wagon
1957 Nomad sport wagon
1957 Cameo Carrier


 
knightfan2691 
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06-24-11 12:52 AM - Post#2107160    
    In response to wagonman100

Ah, cool ... glad she is back home now, Jay!





Cort | 37.m.IL.pigValve.pacemaker | 5 Monte Carlos + 1 Caprice Classic | * RT_06.2011_us66+NW USA
MCs.CC + CHD.models.HO.legos.RadioShows + RoadTrips.us66 = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort
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75novaowner 
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07-29-11 11:39 AM - Post#2119372    
    In response to wagonman100

Boy that looks like a lot of work, is it some kind of race car?

Jeff


 
wagonman100 
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07-29-11 03:24 PM - Post#2119479    
    In response to 75novaowner

No, it has way too much stuff that will be fabricated or one off to risk running it into a wall at speed should something go wrong. Bad enough I'll be driving it on the street with the nut cases driving around out there. It will be a show car, but will get frequently driven. It will have power enough to be a race car. I haven't decided exactly on the path I'm taking for power yet, but it will be supecharged and fuel injected. So depending on the way I go it will be 550-750 horsepower and an almost dead flat torque curve coming in at a low RPM.

Jay
Friends don’t let friends drive Fords.

1999 Silverado Z71 4X4 extra-cab short bed
1983 Malibu Fauxmad - tubbed
1978 El Camino Kustomized
1972 Monte Carlo
1957 210 handyman wagon
1957 Nomad sport wagon
1957 Cameo Carrier


 
wagonman100 
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Loc: Baltimore, MD
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07-29-11 03:41 PM - Post#2119485    
    In response to wagonman100

Here are some more up to date shots. This is right before she goes back into hibernation:









The suspension wil eventually be air bag. The coilovers are just to keep the frame up for now:



I wanted to get a picture of the rolling chassis before they put the body back on, but they put it in before they called me down.

Jay
Friends don’t let friends drive Fords.

1999 Silverado Z71 4X4 extra-cab short bed
1983 Malibu Fauxmad - tubbed
1978 El Camino Kustomized
1972 Monte Carlo
1957 210 handyman wagon
1957 Nomad sport wagon
1957 Cameo Carrier


 
75novaowner 
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07-29-11 04:16 PM - Post#2119502    
    In response to wagonman100

I'm an old fabricator and that is nice project!

Jeff


 
wagonman100 
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07-30-11 07:40 AM - Post#2119675    
    In response to 75novaowner

Thanks. I didn't even notice your age until you said "old fabricator". That means a lot coming from someone like you. Unfortunately, the project is back in hiatus mode until I get my shop finished. After that I have a lot of things to straighten out on the body ( I have brand new GM door skins for it for one thing) and do some other fabrication on the car before I can get to the wiring, brakes, fuel system and drivetrain.

I also have a frame for my El Camino to modify and get powder coated so I can get to work on that project as well. I'll be doing the work on that one myself. I could have done the work on my wagon frame and the other mods as well, but it was much quicker to have someone else do it. At least this time it was done right. It was done the first time before I knew how to do any of this stuff and it was completely botched.

Jay
Friends don’t let friends drive Fords.

1999 Silverado Z71 4X4 extra-cab short bed
1983 Malibu Fauxmad - tubbed
1978 El Camino Kustomized
1972 Monte Carlo
1957 210 handyman wagon
1957 Nomad sport wagon
1957 Cameo Carrier


 
75novaowner 
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07-30-11 07:14 PM - Post#2119877    
    In response to wagonman100

Keep us posted! I plan to build a Monza or Monza twin like Sunbird, Skyhawk or Starfire. It will have a semi full cage with swing out door brace so my old butt can get in! I have an LS1 from a '99 Trans Am for power, not sure which transmission yet. After my new house is done and my wife quits bugging me. Never marry a woman 35 years younger than you!


Jeff


Edited by 75novaowner on 07-30-11 07:15 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
wagonman100 
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07-31-11 07:19 PM - Post#2120268    
    In response to 75novaowner

Got it. I won't maary an 8 year old.

Your car sounds like it will be a nice one. I've always loved that style. My dad had a '76 Skyhawk, V6-5 speed. He got it after his VW bug got creamed parked in front of our house.

You may have noticed that my wagon doesn't have door bars, so it would probably get kicked off any track I did run it at if I were to run it. The driver's door is a suicide door, so a door bar would be difficult in that case.

Jay
Friends don’t let friends drive Fords.

1999 Silverado Z71 4X4 extra-cab short bed
1983 Malibu Fauxmad - tubbed
1978 El Camino Kustomized
1972 Monte Carlo
1957 210 handyman wagon
1957 Nomad sport wagon
1957 Cameo Carrier


 
knightfan2691 
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08-14-11 09:51 AM - Post#2125500    
    In response to wagonman100

Progress is good, but sorry it is back on hiatus/hibernation for now....



Cort | 37.m.IL.pigValve.pacemaker | 5 Monte Carlos + 1 Caprice Classic |
MCs.CC + CHD.models.HO.legos.RadioShows + RoadTrips.us66 = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort
"Everything is temporary anyway" __ Edie Brickell and the New Bohemians __ 'Circle'



 
wagonman100 
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08-15-11 04:39 AM - Post#2125794    
    In response to knightfan2691

You ain't the only one.

Jay
Friends don’t let friends drive Fords.

1999 Silverado Z71 4X4 extra-cab short bed
1983 Malibu Fauxmad - tubbed
1978 El Camino Kustomized
1972 Monte Carlo
1957 210 handyman wagon
1957 Nomad sport wagon
1957 Cameo Carrier


 
McMal1bu 
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Reg: 11-02-11
11-02-11 08:13 AM - Post#2153742    
    In response to wagonman100

This is a wagon grafted to an El Camino? I have thought about a project like this for years.. nice to see someone doing one..

Jackie



 
wagonman100 
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11-02-11 07:53 PM - Post#2153972    
    In response to McMal1bu

No this was an original 4 door wagon converted to a two door by using coupe/Elky doors with Elky windows and a coupe front roof section as well as some El Camino roof sections grafted in. The coupe b-pillar was also put in after the wagon pillar was removed. The wagon was bought brand new by my in-laws in 1983.

I've seen a few other conversions done using the coupe doors, but only one done int he way that I am and it was not tubbed.

Thanks for the comment.

Jay
Friends don’t let friends drive Fords.

1999 Silverado Z71 4X4 extra-cab short bed
1983 Malibu Fauxmad - tubbed
1978 El Camino Kustomized
1972 Monte Carlo
1957 210 handyman wagon
1957 Nomad sport wagon
1957 Cameo Carrier


 
McMal1bu 
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Reg: 11-02-11
11-02-11 08:43 PM - Post#2153985    
    In response to wagonman100

Nifty project! I was guessing that it started as an El Camino because the windshield angle looked like the same as a coupe. I've never checked an El Camino so I don't know if they are the same as the coupe but the wagon windshield stands up straighter and is narrower at the top than the coupe so I was curious since you had the long camino/coupe doors how you worked out the angles. You need to keep posting pictures!

Jackie



 
wagonman100 
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11-03-11 04:39 AM - Post#2154018    
    In response to McMal1bu

You are correct, the wagon/4 door windshield stands up straighter. The roof is also narrower on the wagons and 4 doors. That is why I had to graft the roof section from a 2 door onto the front section of the wagon roof. That way I could keep it with no window frames. Otherwise I would have had to make window frames for the sedan bodystyle. I have seen people use the longer doors and 2 door coupe glass with the old wagon roof, but they added window frames on the doors. It looked okay, but I was going for the Nomad look. Yes the El Camino does use the same windshield as a coupe. The project will be in hibernation for the winter. I am hoping to get the body squared away next year. But I have been saying that for a couple of years now. Last year was taken up by getting the chassis (among other things) redone.

Jay
Friends don’t let friends drive Fords.

1999 Silverado Z71 4X4 extra-cab short bed
1983 Malibu Fauxmad - tubbed
1978 El Camino Kustomized
1972 Monte Carlo
1957 210 handyman wagon
1957 Nomad sport wagon
1957 Cameo Carrier


 
jb2wheeler 
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11-03-11 04:09 PM - Post#2154193    
    In response to wagonman100

Its gonna Be "killer" when you get it finished. JB

If you can't hum it, it ain't music! http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&am p...


 


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