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Username Post: Curved glass retainers        (Topic#233638)
chevynut 
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01-16-10 11:51 AM - Post#1843403    

I saw the other post on this subject but thought I'd start another one. Does anyone have pictures of an ORIGINAL Nomad curved side window with the interior garnish removed and the ORIGINAL window retainers still installed? Also a picture of the slider window would be helpful.

As I recall when I took my Nomad apart 35 years ago there was a long curved retainer at the bottom of the glass like this:



I understand where those go, but there is also this clip set that seems redundant to me if you use that curved piece:




I also see these for sale and have no idea where they woud go:



Item Name: Nomad Upper Curved Glass Retainer Brackets
Item Price: $47.00
Item Description: This is a pair of upper curved glass retainer brackets used on the Nomad to secure the side window glass. Made from stainless steel. Priced per pair.
For the following: 1955, 1956, 1957, Bel Air, Nomad, 2 door, 6 Cyl., V8

So what parts were used originally, and do I need both the curved pieces AND the clip set? Do I need that upper retainer? Where does it go?

Also, I know there is about a 8" bracket with a bumper at the rear of the slider, holding the u-channel end up like this:



What else holds the lower u-channel in? I see these clips but don't remember anything like this on my car:



Item Name: Nomad Sliding Window Channel Hardware Kit
Item Price: $19.00
Item Description: This kit contains the bud clips necessary to install the sliding glass channel on the Nomad. Priced per kit.
For the following: 1955, 1956, 1957, Bel Air, Nomad, 2 door, 6 Cyl., V8

What holds the upper slider channel in place?

Sorry for all the questions, but if I saw a picture of this stuff installed it would make more sense.


'56 Nomad, C4 Vette F&R suspension, Ramjet 502, Viper T56 6 speed See My Nomad Build
'56 BelAir 2DR Sedan in waiting
'01 Porsche Boxster S
'03 Chevy Silverado 2500HD 4x4 Duramax


Edited by chevynut on 01-16-10 12:10 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 


ptjsk 
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01-16-10 05:54 PM - Post#1843583    
    In response to chevynut

Hello Chevynut,

I know what you're experiencing! I have posted several questions on CT inquiring about the curved glass windows.

Fortunately there have been a few people who have responded.

I'm not quite sure how I was able to figure the retainers out, but none the less I think I do have it.

Your first picture of the curved pieces of metal go down onto the lower section of the fixed panel (curved section) part of the glass. You're second picture is a series of clips that I was able to obtain information and placement on these clips.

You're third picture down are the pieces that go up at the top front portion of the fixed panel glass. Again this is the fixed curved section of the glass.

I haven't quite completed the two items identified in your fourth picture. Although I do know approximately where they go.

And your last picture are a series of clips that attach to the upper and lower channels that the sliding (front) glass slides through. Once attached to the channels the channels "plug" into the holes that are already located onto the body.
A chevy restoration shop has recommended that I just screw the new channels into the body with the use of #4 screws.

Unfortunately my wife is shopping and has the camera. When she gets home I can take pictures of what I have completed thus far. Hopefully that will save you some time. Pictures are worth a thousand words for me so I'll get them posted for you in the morning.

Feel free to contact me with your phone number and I can give you a call.

Thanks,

Pat



 
ptjsk 
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01-17-10 05:50 PM - Post#1844117    
    In response to chevynut

Chevynut,

Here are the pictures I said I would get for you.

Hope they help!










 
chevynut 
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02-07-10 05:53 PM - Post#1858155    
    In response to ptjsk

Excellent! Thanks for taking those pics. I can't see what's at the very back TOP of the curved glass next to the liftgate. Are there more clips there?

I still can't see where all those 16 clips in that kit go. It looks like you used the curved retainer, the straight retainer on top, and a couple of the short clips per side.

Thanks for the pics!

'56 Nomad, C4 Vette F&R suspension, Ramjet 502, Viper T56 6 speed See My Nomad Build
'56 BelAir 2DR Sedan in waiting
'01 Porsche Boxster S
'03 Chevy Silverado 2500HD 4x4 Duramax


 
ptjsk 
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02-07-10 07:00 PM - Post#1858189    
    In response to chevynut

Hey Chevynut,

I do have a piece of paper that idicates where the clips go.

When I return to work on Tuesday I'll attempt to scan a copy and get it into my e-mail system

Why don't you send me an e-mail @ monahan522@comcast.net and I'll return the e-mail with an attachment (scanned document).

Additionally, I see you're an archery hunter. I do try to make it to Colorado at least once a year to hunt. Unfortunately there are a couple of hundred thousand others who follow me there!! But I'm sure they feel that way about me as well. Still makes for a good time especially when there just isn't any game to hunt here. Too many people take the first thing they see and the result is little to nil with regards to game management. But this is probably not the place for this topic anyway.

I have over six (6) preference points for mule deer in the Eagle area. So I may make it out there again this year!

See Ya,

Pat



 
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02-15-10 07:30 AM - Post#1863115    
    In response to ptjsk

Pat, thanks for the pictures. They were very helpful!

John
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Nomad Puzzle 
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08-15-10 07:59 AM - Post#1961267    
    In response to ptjsk

Hello,

Any chance you still have this diagram. I am in the same boat as a few people where I have bought all of the parts but also bought a Nomad that came with no glass or the pieces in place. I need help installing the slider, stationary, curved and liftgate glass.
Thank you



 
gmgary 
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08-15-10 07:08 PM - Post#1961559    
    In response to Nomad Puzzle

I have just finished installing all the rear glass,I used some original retainers that I had salvaged and also the ones available that Chevy Nut shows in his pics.

As for the U channel I started using (Danchuk #177 instructions) as a guide,but found the lengths were not correct.The bottom section which includes the curve is approx 60"and the top straight section is approx 40.5".
I screwed in the top channel first using sml self tapping s.s screws and a small amount of black urethane,then I installed the bottom U channel with the window,and predetermined screw locations.Everthing was prefitted,and the lower channel bent for the pillar curve,I used the body opening as a jig to bend the channel,go slow as the outside s.s beads have to extend to avoid kinking.The lower also has a corresponding drain hole.The inside garnish molding also sort of determines the length of the U channel.







Cheers

G.M.
1970 El Camino SS 396 (original)
1957 Nomad (350 Crate) 2011 finished
1955 Nomad in process LS/3


 
Nomad Puzzle 
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08-16-10 06:27 AM - Post#1961677    
    In response to gmgary

Thank you very much! Is there a u channel that the sliders run in or are they just gliding between the moldings and the weatherstripping?



 
BelAirVette 
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08-24-10 10:28 AM - Post#1966123    
    In response to chevynut

I've seen your '56 Nomad build. I have a '56 Bel Air 2DR hardtop. I noticed that you have the Kugel 90 degree braking system under your dash and that you have a smooth firewall. I'm assuming you used a Raingear wiper system under the dash also. That's what I've been planning to do but on Raingear's website it says it will not fit with under-dash braking systems. How did you get it to work? Ed



 
Barryhoch 
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04-17-20 06:26 AM - Post#2791365    
    In response to chevynut

Hi there, you wouldn't happen to know where you saw the Nomad Upper Curved Glass Retainer Brackets for sale at? Thanks,



 


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