navyson
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 05-02-08 11:43 AM - Post#1424941
OK, more on the saga of my 1938 Chevy restoration! Tie rod ends: I unscrewed and removed the round threaded cap and rounded cap that butts up against the ball. The tie rod will not come off the ball! I have tried a rubber mallet, WD 40, and pushing the rear rounded cap and spring back into the tie rod end, no luck. What's the magic trick? 
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 2blu52
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05-02-08 11:47 AM - Post#1424943
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You need a tie rod end fork. Purchase one from any parts house. The fork drives in between the tie rod and the ball on the tie rod end and forces it down. You will need a relatively heavy hammer as well. When reconnecting the tie rod end to the tie rod put a jack under the tie rod end and apply some upward pressure, this will keep the bolt from turning while you tighten it to specs. 
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navyson
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05-02-08 11:59 AM - Post#1424947
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Thanks! I'll do that! 
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05-02-08 01:24 PM - Post#1424974
In response to navyson
One additional thing: the tool you want is also commonly called a "pickel fork". There are many places that you can rent or borrow one if you don't expect to be using it often.
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05-02-08 03:05 PM - Post#1425017
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Don't use a tie rod fork on the style of tie rod end. Pound (not too har) on the opposite end of the tie rod so as to drive the "internal parts" deeper into the opening so it will slip off the ball. Also you can pound on the stuck end to force it off the ball. Pound up but to the inside of the ball so you don't damage the threads for the end plug. The body of the tie rod may be damaged if the modenr tie rod end fork is used.
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navyson
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05-02-08 06:16 PM - Post#1425123
In response to Gene_Schneider
That's what I thought too. This is a replacement front end. My old front end tie rod never had this problem, the tie rod ends just popped off. Back to the soft end hammer and some beating!
Thank you to everyone for the help.
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05-03-08 01:24 AM - Post#1425308
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Made sticky for a time as this is useful info!
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05-03-08 02:00 PM - Post#1425538
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Don't use a tie rod fork on the style of tie rod end. Pound (not too har) on the opposite end of the tie rod so as to drive the "internal parts" deeper into the opening so it will slip off the ball. Also you can pound on the stuck end to force it off the ball. Pound up but to the inside of the ball so you don't damage the threads for the end plug. The body of the tie rod may be damaged if the modenr tie rod end fork is used.
If I gave bad information on this my apologies. Will take a trip to the parts book and see what this tie rod and tie rod end look like.
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05-03-08 04:40 PM - Post#1425617
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The "body" of the tie rod end is very thin at this point and the tie rod wedge may put too much pressure on it and distort it. The actual stud is on the steering arm and the end is "empty" with spacers, springs, etc. holding it to the ball.
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Bill Masters
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05-04-08 07:22 PM - Post#1426325
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To remove the tie rod, remove the cotter pin, end plug and ball seat. Screw the end plug back onto the end of the tie rod and continue until the ball is in the center of the opening. A light tap with a hammer will remove the tie rod from the ball.
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navyson
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05-09-08 05:53 PM - Post#1429819
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I finally got them off. These are the directions that are in the 1938 manual. Thank you!
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