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Username Post: got a 70 ss now        (Topic#187210)
overdrive 
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overdrive
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04-13-08 07:54 PM - Post#1410827    

Hi, guys. I took a road trip to Ottawa, KS Fri. and brought back a 70 Monte Carlo SS. It's an L.A. built car that has lots of options and needs restored, but it has very little rust. It has a '71 454 that's been rebuilt and runs very strong. It's getting late, so I'll post more on it later.






http://www.picturetrail.com/57overdrive
'57 Belair Sport Coupe restored
'57 Nomad w/mild restoration
'57 Delray w/28K mi. unrestored
'71 Monte, restored
'70 Monte SS 454, L.A. built, restoration has begun


 




Aaron70Monte 
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04-13-08 08:40 PM - Post#1410847    
    In response to overdrive

Awesome! Looks pretty solid with most of the equipment there. Of course, now your son will want the SS.

Aaron
1970 Misty Turquoise Monte Carlo - 113,000 miles
1971 Classic Copper Monte Carlo SS454 - 74,000 miles



 
knightfan2691 
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04-13-08 10:54 PM - Post#1410887    
    In response to Aaron70Monte

Ohhh...how COOL, overdrive!

CONGRATULATIONS! Looks good :).



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overdrive 
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04-14-08 06:34 PM - Post#1411574    
    In response to knightfan2691

Thanks, fellas. It has all the SS parts except the compressor is missing from the inner fender, but the mounting holes are there. The car has:
454 from a '71.
Turbo 400 trans
Working factory tach w/5500 rpm redline and gauges
PS & PB
Working Power windows
Working Power locks
Remote control sport mirror
Original 12 bolt rear w/posi
Trunk light
Rear window defogger
Map light on rear view mirror
Low washer fluid indicator light
Vanity mirror
Tilt steering column
Bucket seats and console
Rear stabilizer bar
Air shocks, [not the originals]
Shock protector plates
Fully boxed lower rear control arms
Air control valve, and air line c-clipped to the brake line all the way to the front.
Dual horns
Factory AM/FM radio w/rear deck speaker
15x7" Rally Wheels











http://www.picturetrail.com/57overdrive
'57 Belair Sport Coupe restored
'57 Nomad w/mild restoration
'57 Delray w/28K mi. unrestored
'71 Monte, restored
'70 Monte SS 454, L.A. built, restoration has begun


Edited by overdrive on 04-14-08 06:43 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
wagonman100 
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04-16-08 05:03 PM - Post#1412978    
    In response to overdrive

I hate you.

Nice score.

Jay
Friends don’t let friends drive Fords.

1999 Silverado Z71 4X4 extra-cab short bed
1983 Malibu Fauxmad - tubbed
1978 El Camino Kustomized
1972 Monte Carlo
1957 210 handyman wagon
1957 Nomad sport wagon
1957 Cameo Carrier


 
overdrive 
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04-16-08 07:35 PM - Post#1413133    
    In response to wagonman100

Thanks! I tried out the posi last night. It works fine. The pavement showed both tires got power for about 80', until the car caught up with the tires! This car is gonna be fun!
I found the car on the FGMCC site. If you haven't been there, you should take a look.

http://www.picturetrail.com/57overdrive
'57 Belair Sport Coupe restored
'57 Nomad w/mild restoration
'57 Delray w/28K mi. unrestored
'71 Monte, restored
'70 Monte SS 454, L.A. built, restoration has begun


 
wagonman100 
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04-17-08 03:15 AM - Post#1413238    
    In response to overdrive

  • Quote:
If you haven't been there, you should take a look.



Oh, I could get into some serious trouble there. I already have the garage full and want more cars. I told my wife if I can ever afford to, I want to get more property and have a 40 X 60 garage. It still probably won't be big enough.

Jay
Friends don’t let friends drive Fords.

1999 Silverado Z71 4X4 extra-cab short bed
1983 Malibu Fauxmad - tubbed
1978 El Camino Kustomized
1972 Monte Carlo
1957 210 handyman wagon
1957 Nomad sport wagon
1957 Cameo Carrier


 
427SS65 
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04-20-08 06:49 PM - Post#1416052    
    In response to wagonman100

Very nice, overdrive!

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overdrive 
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overdrive
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04-24-08 07:03 PM - Post#1419590    
    In response to 427SS65

Thank you. I'll have a hard time picking a color. I'm not sure I'll use the factory gold on the body, interior and top. I'm thinking about black interior and top with a dark blue body.

http://www.picturetrail.com/57overdrive
'57 Belair Sport Coupe restored
'57 Nomad w/mild restoration
'57 Delray w/28K mi. unrestored
'71 Monte, restored
'70 Monte SS 454, L.A. built, restoration has begun


 
wagonmaster 
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04-29-08 08:06 AM - Post#1422789    
    In response to overdrive

Nice car! Just for grins, have you considered the '63-'64 Corvette Saddle Tan paint, with the existing good looking tan interior? With a tan vinyl top, it would be awesome! Just one man's opinion....

Hey T @!


In Memory of Mike McVeigh- The "Mad Spring Wacker" He roams the Forums of CT forever in our hearts and minds!

http://www.picturetrail.com/wagonmaster55

Joe


 
overdrive 
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05-06-08 07:43 PM - Post#1427782    
    In response to wagonmaster

Thanks. That's not a bad idea. I'll need to study some paint options. The first thing is to see what colors are available for the top. I was able to find an original air ride compressor and original brackets. It'll be here tomorrow.

I left out one option on my list: Rear window defogger.

http://www.picturetrail.com/57overdrive
'57 Belair Sport Coupe restored
'57 Nomad w/mild restoration
'57 Delray w/28K mi. unrestored
'71 Monte, restored
'70 Monte SS 454, L.A. built, restoration has begun


 
cuzr68 
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05-23-08 03:59 PM - Post#1439783    
    In response to overdrive

looks like a very nice start. I always liked the first monte's.

not such a newbie....used to be imp68.

'68 Impala
"02 Cavalier


 
overdrive 
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overdrive
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05-24-08 03:32 AM - Post#1439995    
    In response to cuzr68

Thanks and welcome to Chevytalk.

http://www.picturetrail.com/57overdrive
'57 Belair Sport Coupe restored
'57 Nomad w/mild restoration
'57 Delray w/28K mi. unrestored
'71 Monte, restored
'70 Monte SS 454, L.A. built, restoration has begun


 
Jared Richey 
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06-10-08 08:04 AM - Post#1452735    
    In response to overdrive

Hadn't been over here in a while. I seey you are over here on this forum also. Very nice find there.

Lots of FGMCC members over on chevytalk.

Jared Richey

1970 Monte Carlo 350-300 HP
1971 Monte Carlo SS 454 clone. Getting done. 7.41@92MPH (lots more left)
1992 Lumina Z34
1986 Monte Carlo SS


 
gomontes1971 
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07-03-08 06:59 PM - Post#1470093    
    In response to Jared Richey

Nice!! I noticed that the engine doesn't have an air filter on it. Otherwise, nice nab!!

donald
proud owner of a 1971 monte carlo


 
overdrive 
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07-19-08 08:18 PM - Post#1481488    
    In response to gomontes1971

Thanks. It has an air cleaner, just not in the pic.

http://www.picturetrail.com/57overdrive
'57 Belair Sport Coupe restored
'57 Nomad w/mild restoration
'57 Delray w/28K mi. unrestored
'71 Monte, restored
'70 Monte SS 454, L.A. built, restoration has begun


 
Mrj52 
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07-28-08 05:34 PM - Post#1487390    
    In response to overdrive

Nice find!! Enjoy that bad boy!!

70 SS454 Monte Carlo/ Muncie M20 / 3.55 Posi / 571 Cubic inch stock appearing "454"


 
overdrive 
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07-31-08 06:11 PM - Post#1489609    
    In response to Mrj52

Thanks. I'd, I mean we'd love to see your car. Can you post some pics?

http://www.picturetrail.com/57overdrive
'57 Belair Sport Coupe restored
'57 Nomad w/mild restoration
'57 Delray w/28K mi. unrestored
'71 Monte, restored
'70 Monte SS 454, L.A. built, restoration has begun


 
gotta56forme 
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12-19-08 12:31 PM - Post#1588339    
    In response to overdrive

I may be misremembering some of this, but when I was a kid, our next door neighbor in San Mateo, CA had a new'70(?) SS, silver with a black vinyl top, black interior MC. I think his had the SS wheels, and it may have had black hood & trunk stripes as well. My memory is his even had a blacked out grill. The car had a lot of 'eyeball'.

On your gold one, I don't see any outwards signs of it being an SS. My apologies for the characterization, but were there 'plain' SS MC's and those that got the same SS treatment (badging, stripes, wheels) as the 70-ish Malibu SS's?

Can I get that to GO? * * * '56 210 HT * * * '56 BelAir HT * * *


 
gotta56forme 
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12-19-08 01:08 PM - Post#1588366    
    In response to gotta56forme

I take back the SS wheels in my prior post. I looked at a few photos, and it was the ralleye wheels he had on his.

Can I get that to GO? * * * '56 210 HT * * * '56 BelAir HT * * *


 
wagonman100 
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12-19-08 02:36 PM - Post#1588439    
    In response to gotta56forme

The Monte SS was a very low key car. It only had SS454 on the moldings above the rocker trim. Very small, almost unoticeable. And it has SS on the rear body panel on the right hand side near the tail light. That was it for exterior badging. If your neighbor had the things you mention on the car, they were done after the factory built it. I have seen a lot of Montes with the SS emblems put on the fenders high behind the front wheels like the Chevelle had and even with SS on the grille and in the center of the rear body panel like a Chevelle. That is incorrect for the Monte. As are the SS stripes.

Now with enough money, you could have the dealer do a lot of things to a car. You could even get the factory to do some odd stuff. There was a Nova built around 1970 that had Plymouth Plumb Crazy paint applied at GM per the customers order.

Jay
Friends don’t let friends drive Fords.

1999 Silverado Z71 4X4 extra-cab short bed
1983 Malibu Fauxmad - tubbed
1978 El Camino Kustomized
1972 Monte Carlo
1957 210 handyman wagon
1957 Nomad sport wagon
1957 Cameo Carrier


 
gotta56forme 
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12-19-08 03:25 PM - Post#1588497    
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Hmmm... I'm not going to say I can remember the Chevelle style SS badging on it, but I do remember the hood & trunk stripes, so those must have been added like you suggested. To say that he babied that thing would be an understatement. He was fanatical about it's care. I let a tennis ball get too close to his car once and I knew never to get too close to it again after that. Wonder where that car ended up at...

Can I get that to GO? * * * '56 210 HT * * * '56 BelAir HT * * *


 
wagonman100 
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12-21-08 06:57 AM - Post#1589444    
    In response to gotta56forme

It may very well have been a real SS with the subtle badging and he added the SS stripes because he liked them. I just mentioned the wrong badging because when people make a fake SS Monte, they automatically assume the badging was like that of a Chevelle from that era.

Nothing wrong with personalizing your car. I don't like the stripes on them myself, so I just won't put them on my Monte when it gets painted again.

Jay
Friends don’t let friends drive Fords.

1999 Silverado Z71 4X4 extra-cab short bed
1983 Malibu Fauxmad - tubbed
1978 El Camino Kustomized
1972 Monte Carlo
1957 210 handyman wagon
1957 Nomad sport wagon
1957 Cameo Carrier


 
overdrive 
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12-23-08 01:35 PM - Post#1591345    
    In response to gotta56forme

This link shows how to differentiate a real 70 or 71 Monte SS from a non SS car.
As far as emblems and diferences that could be seen without getting under the car or opening the hood, the 71 had the SS emblem above the rear bumper and black paint on the panel between the bumper and trunk lid along with extra trim at the top of this panel. It also had a horizontal rubber strip on the rear bumper, and the front lower fender trim emblems that read SS454. 70s only had the front lower fender trim emblems.



http://www.picturetrail.com/57overdrive
'57 Belair Sport Coupe restored
'57 Nomad w/mild restoration
'57 Delray w/28K mi. unrestored
'71 Monte, restored
'70 Monte SS 454, L.A. built, restoration has begun


 
gotta56forme 
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12-30-08 07:23 PM - Post#1595800    
    In response to overdrive

Someone in my neighborhood has parked a '70 MC (not an SS) on the street near my house. I can't help but notice it everyday. It's in pretty good shape. The body doesn't appear to have any rippling, and there is one little crease in front of a rear wheel. It is silver with a black vinyl top, and black interior. Other than needing the front seat recovered, fresh carpet, and an inside arm rest/door pull or two, she is a mighty fine lookin' car. I keep day dreaming about it with a set of Magnum 500's on it (instead of the big flat factory caps) and sitting in my driveway.

I wonder how much it would take to buy her...?

Can I get that to GO? * * * '56 210 HT * * * '56 BelAir HT * * *


 
wagonman100 
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12-31-08 09:02 AM - Post#1596090    
    In response to gotta56forme

The good news (for buying one) is the Montes aren't as popular as the Chevelles. So they can be had for a fraction of the cost of a Chevelle.

Jay
Friends don’t let friends drive Fords.

1999 Silverado Z71 4X4 extra-cab short bed
1983 Malibu Fauxmad - tubbed
1978 El Camino Kustomized
1972 Monte Carlo
1957 210 handyman wagon
1957 Nomad sport wagon
1957 Cameo Carrier


 
overdrive 
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09-20-09 10:14 AM - Post#1775162    
    In response to wagonman100

Update:

I've spent some time on the SS454. I've replaced all 4 springs and the lower control arm bushings. I took the vinyl off and cut a couple of small rusty spots out at the top of the rear glass and welded in new metal. I've decided to use the factory colors on everything and I repainted the rear window channel with Rust Bullet and the correct color paint for the metal that's inside, at the bottom of the rear glass. I installed a new rear glass, repaired and primered the fenders and hood, as well as the top and the trunk lid. Resealed the drip rails and replaced the bulbs that were burned out and bled the brake system. Put the 8" Rallys that were on the Nomad on it and installed new bumpers. I've repaired the level ride compressor and installed new Delco air shocks. I made an inlet filter for the level ride compressor and bought a NOS one. Sure hope I never need to buy another!

I decided to license and drive it a little before I take it off the frame, hopefully this winter. I want to know exactly what I need to repair and replace while it's apart. The trans was weak. It slipped sometimes when shifting into 2nd. I drove it to town 3 or 4 times and the trans gave out. I bought a book on rebuilding TH400s and tore into it. It was only apart a week. The VIN on the trans matches the car. The forward clutch pack friction plates had no friction material left. I installed a shift improver kit, too. Works great! I've been having fun with it. It runs very strong and burnouts and making lots of noise comes easy, but I haven't done very much of that. Don't want to tear it up before I paint it.

I just modified the exhaust to exit in front of the rear tires for now. It had no tailpipes and it had to pass a state inspection to get plates on it. The car's ugly at this stage, but it's already fun.

There's more pics in my sig.














http://www.picturetrail.com/57overdrive
'57 Belair Sport Coupe restored
'57 Nomad w/mild restoration
'57 Delray w/28K mi. unrestored
'71 Monte, restored
'70 Monte SS 454, L.A. built, restoration has begun


 
74MonteCarlo 
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09-20-09 02:29 PM - Post#1775275    
    In response to overdrive

Lookin good.



 
wagonman100 
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09-21-09 03:28 AM - Post#1775527    
    In response to 74MonteCarlo

Starting to shape up nicely. You definitely aren't afraid to dive right into stuff. I admire that in a person. I have yet to dig into an auto trans. I have a TH350 sitting in the garage I am eventually going to rebuild. It doesn't really need it, but I want to learn the process. I'm probably not even going to use it, just sell it when I'm done. Good luck with the Monte and have some fun with it.

Jay
Friends don’t let friends drive Fords.

1999 Silverado Z71 4X4 extra-cab short bed
1983 Malibu Fauxmad - tubbed
1978 El Camino Kustomized
1972 Monte Carlo
1957 210 handyman wagon
1957 Nomad sport wagon
1957 Cameo Carrier


 
overdrive 
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overdrive
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10-10-09 11:46 AM - Post#1786245    
    In response to wagonman100

Thanks! I come from a do it yourself family.

When you tackle the trans, just get a good book for less than $30 and ask a few questions on your favorite web forums. You'll do fine.

http://www.picturetrail.com/57overdrive
'57 Belair Sport Coupe restored
'57 Nomad w/mild restoration
'57 Delray w/28K mi. unrestored
'71 Monte, restored
'70 Monte SS 454, L.A. built, restoration has begun


 




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