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Username Post: Fitzback 1953 Frame off        (Topic#181323)
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I want to share with you the frame off restoration I'm in process to make with my car. I'm very happy to see what the other guy do to their car, and it is helpful. Now I offer you the same thing, hope you'll enjoy.

First, I am the owner of the car since 1995. I bought like you see above. I remove the engine to fix leaking problem with oil, and exhaust valve. With only 40$ and a free gasket kit, I can't do too much on the car the first two or three years.

I clean it as much that I can, and I make the interior six years later. Make some touch up on paint. My friend want the car for is wedding in 2005 but the engine blowby so much, I was afraid to loose the bride in it, so I rebuilt the engine in 2005 just one month before is wedding Kanter make a mistake and don't send me the good ring. I receive the good one 12 days before THE day. My wife help me a lot to be on "time". She installed the valve and clean the part, and me assembled it.

After the wedding I make a good inspection because some time I heard some body noise, that I can't do nothing to fix it. I found under few (big) patch on steel, big hole on the frame. The patch was spread with tar to make dirt road to glue on it. The frame is too rusty to be repaired. I park the car in 2006, and the process begin to replace the frame. I found one in British Columbia, 3000 miles from here, and another 3000 to comeback. My wife was willing to pickup the frame in Kelowna BC Canada with me and our 3 daugthers. I bring back the frame in the last summer. The seller send me picture of the frame before, but I made a mistake for the year. It is a 49-52 frame. So the rear end and some bracket won't fit. I have to correct that before painting it. If I could find another one I would take it but, here there is nothing good to use without rust. So I'll post picture for the frame modification soon. It's OK for tonight. Hope you'll follow the post and be kind with the orthograh. thank.

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02-04-08 09:08 PM - Post#1358718    
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Great job you are doing. I plan to fallow all your work. I will copy all your work and keep it for future work i will do.

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02-04-08 09:36 PM - Post#1358749    
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Im still trying to get my wife involved, Good job, I'll be watching!

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02-04-08 09:40 PM - Post#1358752    
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That will keep you busy for a while. Good luck and I will be watching. Keep posting pictures.

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02-04-08 10:23 PM - Post#1358778    
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thanks every body. Yes I plan to post regularly.



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02-05-08 01:46 PM - Post#1359269    
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Love them Poncho's. Great pics, looking forward to more

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02-05-08 04:49 PM - Post#1359411    
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When I park the car, the engine was running rough a bit. Take the temp of the exhaust manifold at each exit after checking ignition, timing, vaccuum leak etc... and the #6 cyl. was colder than the other one. And with the ignition on OFF position the rythm of the starter was unequal. I knew now I have a leak of compression in that cyl. I made a leak test and it was the exhaust valve the problem. Recently (last week) I remove the head and fix the valve problem.

In sept 2006, I began to dissamble the car and taking note in book and place all small parts in closed bag.











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02-05-08 05:20 PM - Post#1359441    
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And the wiring was correctly tag for been reproduced lately, and instal with ease later.

The body was completely dissamble








And last summer, the car was ship to my friend's body shop to remove the body from the frame. After the car came back home.







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02-06-08 06:22 AM - Post#1359773    
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I try to put you up to date quickly...
Back to the story, I remove the body and the frame/engine came back to my house to be separated.





And beginning to remove engine, trans, etc...





going to work now, have a nice day.

André.



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02-06-08 09:46 AM - Post#1359897    
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great story! Keep us posted on your progress

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02-06-08 09:59 AM - Post#1359908    
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I will...

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02-06-08 06:44 PM - Post#1360324    
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I have tried 3 time tonight to post other picture but in the preview process, it was very long and after I loose everything without seeing the preview, anybody can explain to me?

thank

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02-06-08 08:03 PM - Post#1360374    
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  • chevyac Said:
I have tried 3 time tonight to post other picture but in the preview process, it was very long and after I loose everything without seeing the preview, anybody can explain to me?

thank



Keep trying, I'm enjoying the heck outta this post!


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02-06-08 08:23 PM - Post#1360393    
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One of my dreams its make what are you doing now. maibe some day i could doit but now i love to see your progres its all that i want. Thanks and keep posting

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02-06-08 09:53 PM - Post#1360471    
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So four guys can pick up and carry the bare body?



 
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02-07-08 04:38 AM - Post#1360547    
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  • lucforce Said:
So four guys can pick up and carry the bare body?



Yes, I think if we were 3, we could lift it. The body is completely empty. If you keep the doors and all the glass, 4 guys it's not enought I think. It's crazy how it's light when empty, about 600lbs (not sure...)

I will try to post tonight, hope it will work.


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02-07-08 12:35 PM - Post#1360823    
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again i loose all the post I want to put in, with picture and text. Somebody can help???

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02-07-08 02:19 PM - Post#1360881    
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If its any help, I use photobucket and just paste the image file tag (#####.img) into my messsage and the pics come right up.

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02-07-08 03:18 PM - Post#1360914    
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thanks, it's frustating because all other post with picture I had any problem. It maybe to much traffic in the web site?

I'll maybe try photobucket if I can't do anything more.

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02-07-08 03:49 PM - Post#1360934    
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I try picture by picture...



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02-07-08 04:29 PM - Post#1360968    
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picture above

I remove the rear axle, the shackles, and bushing had to be replace. I put new plastic between the leaf of the rear spring.



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02-07-08 04:40 PM - Post#1360976    
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  • chevyac Said:
thanks, it's frustating because all other post with picture I had any problem. It maybe to much traffic in the web site?

I'll maybe try photobucket if I can't do anything more.



Could also be pic size.


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02-07-08 04:47 PM - Post#1360977    
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I remove the rear axle, and place new plastic between the leaf of the spring. I open the diff. for check up and fix if necessary. The diff is in very good condition, but the axle goes in and out before dissambling.



The block inside the diff. in the middle was use to lock the axle, mine had a lot of wear and the axle could move in and out. When I restore the diff, I turn 90 degrees the block and ajust it without mouvement for the axle.



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02-07-08 04:54 PM - Post#1360982    
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  • Vonratnick Said:
  • chevyac Said:
thanks, it's frustating because all other post with picture I had any problem. It maybe to much traffic in the web site?

I'll maybe try photobucket if I can't do anything more.



Could also be pic size.




I don't think so, because the weight is minimum and when I reach 5 pic. the system tell me "it's enough". Its only to preview the overall post with picture the problem. I take the spring picture and post it directly without preview. The system tell me the post as "failed" but the picture of the spring come up on the post

I'll post without picture appearing on the post. You'll have to click to see... sorry.


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02-07-08 05:10 PM - Post#1360986    
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The diff will be painted black this week end. After I'll install the brake system and put it in storage waiting for the frame. Last week I began to work on the steer axle.



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This is where I am with the steer axle. All the part to restore it has been ordered and received. I want, for tomorrow, completly dissamble the steer axle and send to sandblast the cross member. For the 4 A arm, and the knuckles I'll clean it a bit and send it later. All parts are place in plastic box and tag "left or right". It's easy to forget with working on it once a week only. And for the body, we remove all the undercoating. We try with thinner and other liquid like that. The best thing we found to clean the underbody is to scrap it with a heat gun. Like you see in the picture, my friend hold the heat gun in is hand, and scrap, scrap and scrap... I'll post picture of the underbody completly clean. We remove the excess of tar with thinner and towel.



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02-09-08 06:58 AM - Post#1362170    
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For the body itself, it need some attention near the body mount and one floor pan, passenger side. Also, both side at the rear under the tail light, need attention too. The process to fix the body begin soon. I put my energy on the diff, steer axle, and frame, after it will be the body. Now the diff is almost done, the steer axle is in good way, and the frame after. My friend will work a lot more than me on the body itself, he can weld and paint better then me so...



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02-09-08 08:08 AM - Post#1362200    
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In this picture,
https://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/fbbuploads/1 2023...
what is the purpose of the part above the water pump that the heater hoses are connected to?

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02-09-08 09:40 AM - Post#1362252    
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this is the transmission (powerglide)oil cooler.

It is made by Harrison.

André.



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02-09-08 09:51 AM - Post#1362257    
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Ahhhh - yet another difference between Pontiac and Chevy. On a Chevy the oil cooler is spliced into the lower radiator hose. Thank you for explaining.

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02-09-08 10:04 AM - Post#1362263    
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No problem.

You have to know that this is only the Canadian Pontiac is supply with that king of cooler. And if you want to look the steer axle, you will see a engine support in front. Also the link hole for the bar are not identical. And, the radiator support is not the same too. It's a well made car, but I have to pay attention to some detail when I want to use Chevy parts. (like brake hose, they don't go on the same side, I'll made it by myself).

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02-09-08 01:34 PM - Post#1362397    
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This morning, I work on the steer axle, remove all parts, and is ready to be sandblast and paint.

Now, I show you what I found under one of the 4 patch on the frame in 2005. It was the "begining" of the restoration (began in sept 2006). I show you also the bolts who are suppose to hold down the body on the frame, I was lucky on some of the last trip that the frame arrive at the same time as the body (trip not too windy I suppose!).... and what was under the molding.



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02-12-08 10:21 AM - Post#1364414    
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The rusty part of the body that I have to put some attention...



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02-12-08 06:49 PM - Post#1364812    
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Don't ask me why! I don't know now! But now the picture work well.

Ok I bring back home the painted diff and spring. I'll buy steel hoses for brake line and put all the brake stuff. I plan this week to buy every thing I need, and make it next week. I'll post the under body clean of undercoating soon. I've take picture tonight of it.



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02-13-08 01:50 PM - Post#1365352    
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Go figure! Nice pics, thanks.


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This is the underbody clear of undercoating. It took about 45hrs to clean this stuff But now we will be able to cut/weld without putting the car on fire.... Now you are up to date!

For those who want to see other picture (i did not put all the picture I have on the project) from some part of the car let me know, if I have it I'll post it.



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02-14-08 03:00 AM - Post#1365741    
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Really interesting story and nice job.

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02-14-08 07:42 AM - Post#1365832    
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Great work! I can imagine all the effort on removing the undercoating. My car is covered in it as well and I dread having to do it.



 
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02-14-08 11:23 AM - Post#1365971    
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Not directly related to your restoration, but I do have a question about engine and transmission mounts. I can see one mount at the front of the engine and another at the rear of the powerglide. Are there any intermediate mounts, possibly on the powerglide bellhousing or adaptor ring?

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As you can see in this picture you have two engine/transmission mount on both side of the engine. They bolt on the spacer between the trans. and engine. They are complete on the picture, missing bolt only. You can look also the difference on the K member about the park brake bracket. And further, the exhaust pipe support on the other side.



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02-14-08 02:00 PM - Post#1366081    
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Yes, that's exactly what I was hoping to see. The mounts attach to the adaptor ring, sort of like on a 50-51 Chevrolet with PG. Thank you for posting the pic.

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You are welcome!

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I put oil in the diff to check for leak, balance both end to be sure that the oil goes on bearing and seal. After a while (2 days) dry like the desert, so its time to do work. I make the left side brake hoses, and tonight I make the right side. I try to use all the original car parts. I clean the wheel cyl. fitting and reuse it. I paint the retaining clip of the junction fitting and reuse it too. I clean the park brake cable. I use a tinted clear to protect it, and does a good look. I need to order the rubber boot to cap the cable. I use a brass "o"ring to seal the filler plug of the diff. And for tonight, I begin to clean all the hardware for the installation of the brake shoes.



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02-19-08 08:14 PM - Post#1370251    
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And install the parking brake cable. I think I need brake shoe, you agree?



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02-20-08 02:21 PM - Post#1370739    
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I should receive the H beam tomorrow for making me a base to work on the frame, I'll make a gig on it with the old frame and after put the new one. Keep you inform about the frame. Post other picture of the progress elsewhere on the car.

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Today I clean and put together the brake parts and shoes. I don't paint the hardware because this car won't be a trailler queen. I buy a set of new "nail" only, and replace it. Also I prepare the part of the right side of the steer axle for sanding and painting. I remove the front drum hub, grinding the rivet, cleaning all them before shipping to the painter. The diff is ready, I'll wait to install the spring because I have to bring back the diff in the garage, and it will be to heavy with. I have to found 7/16 rubber hoses for making 4 pieces to put on the park brake cable, and ordered the rubber cap. The steer axle parts are waiting for the return of the axle to be installed.



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02-24-08 07:38 PM - Post#1373810    
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And I make a tool to push out and push in the kin pin bushing. I made it with a old hydraulic cyl. rod.



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03-01-08 12:18 PM - Post#1378165    
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Now the frame is in the shop. The two H beam will be weld together to make a rigid frame, the car frame will be worked upside down. Today I sprayed important spot to reproduce or to check on the other frame(the good one). Other picture after the 13, I'm in vacation (going to France).



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03-18-08 07:00 PM - Post#1391406    
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Came back from France and working on the frame. Some parts are transfered with original style rivits. More picture soon...



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03-18-08 08:59 PM - Post#1391540    
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Cool!

Looking all those fresh parts excites me in ways I don't understand.

Thanks for the update.

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  • Vonratnick Said:
Cool!

Looking all those fresh parts excites me in ways I don't understand.

Thanks for the update.



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03-19-08 04:04 PM - Post#1392079    
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There is fresh picture now.

I put flat bar to take the curve line of the frame, weld it on the H beam.

this side braket was completly rusted and twisted (both side), with picture found in the net I place it correctly and make a stand for it, as well as the other body braket. Those side braket (the rusted one) will be remade with new steel on the other frame after positionning, because on the 49-52 frame, those braket are not the same. Look the other side body braket, it need to be replace correctly too.



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03-19-08 04:21 PM - Post#1392095    
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A side view of the frame with body braket bolted on the "gig".

The front side body braket and "his" rust...


I use this "brand new" tool to bend the flat bar to match the curve line of the frame.



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03-24-08 02:07 PM - Post#1395594    
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I've taken some picture today of the frame work. All the body bracket are positionned on the H beam. I'll remove the frame tomorrow and YES, place the "new" one after on the "jig" and begin with the correction. I'll post picture tonight or tomorrow.



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03-24-08 04:33 PM - Post#1395724    
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that's the picture taken today. Everything is at the right place...

and this one, show the wing bracket, another "don't fit" item (to long), I'll use the original one with new insert (in the bolt hole) to be able to torque the bolt on the body and avoid crush it, that's why the upper one was remove from the donor frame in that picture.





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03-25-08 05:24 PM - Post#1396578    
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Now the "new" frame is on the "jig". I'll take some time to..... think about it.



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03-29-08 05:31 AM - Post#1399076    
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I can't fold (or unfold) the frame as a one piece item. I remove all the cross-member and I'll fold correctly the two rail separatly on the "jig". I'll take some other picture today of the folding work, yesterday I made some "torture" to the rail , and the partial job look good.

I found another big differences between the two frame, the bolt patern for the front bumper bracket is not the same, they are not at the same angle too... the change is made by now... and another big differences too, is the side rail of the 49-52 frame under the body shell is straight, the 53-54 frame is curved, lowering the body shell on those car's years.....about 1" 1/2.

I think I'll know very very very well those frame after that operation.



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03-30-08 03:42 PM - Post#1399959    
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Bending operation picture, in this picture the rear end of the frame was bended straight

on that one, the under shell part of the frame was curved like the original one, and fit correctly on the "jig".

and on that one you see the work in progress on the left one.



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04-03-08 03:29 PM - Post#1403416    
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I take a break from the frame.

I install the spring on the diff. and begin to restore an exhaust manifold that I've found last year. Mine on the engine is cracked. I'll work on the frame next week.



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04-10-08 06:24 PM - Post#1408726    
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I'm stuck a bit, my friend don't have time right now to help me on the frame, and the painter is late with the steer axle. The exhaust manifold that I found to replace the other one as a little crack, so I went to the welder and gave it to him.

Tonight I worked on the master cylinder, I open it an place parts in a plastic bin, and send the core to the painter, put him late a bit more...

It's not frustrating, it give me chance to do something else in the house...

I hope you enjoy the post, have a nice day.





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04-10-08 06:33 PM - Post#1408733    
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Yes, I am enjoying the post!

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04-10-08 08:05 PM - Post#1408811    
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I am enjoying it too! Think you could start another thread? Maybe frame off 2? There are getting to be so many pictures in this one that it is taking it a long time to load. Just a suggestion.

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04-11-08 03:45 AM - Post#1408909    
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Thanks guys,

Bob, I understand what you are saying, if I start another post can I save this one in the first page of the new post?

Just for any member if they want to see the beginning of the resto or one picture. If yes, how?

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04-11-08 07:44 AM - Post#1409025    
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You could put a link to this post in the new one.

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04-11-08 12:00 PM - Post#1409203    
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I don't know how but I'll try. It's a good idea.

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04-11-08 12:16 PM - Post#1409218    
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That part is easy. Here is the link.
https://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/showtopic.php?ti...

It should show pretty much the same thing in the address line of your browser when you are on the first page of the thread.

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04-11-08 05:14 PM - Post#1409420    
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I'm sorry, I don't understand how can I put a link like that in a new post. Can help?

thank you

By the way, my painter feel a bit guilty, he paint nearly all the steer axle tonight. So soon more work and more picture too.

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04-11-08 05:40 PM - Post#1409440    
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Ok, highlight that link and then press ctrl C. Then in your new post, put the cursor where you want the link to appear and press ctrl V. This works for all Windows machines. I'm sorry, but I can't tell you how to do it if you have a Mac.

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04-11-08 06:33 PM - Post#1409473    
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thank for the info.

I use crtl+c and crtl+v and I can tranfer something in a new post but not in the form of a link.

The link you place for me above don't work because is incomplete (I think, the 3 dots are not on the original adress )

Now I need to know where you take the link. For the transfer now it's OK,

thanks again.

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04-11-08 06:43 PM - Post#1409476    
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Ok, Andre, not a problem. If you want to see the whole link, go to the first page of this thread. The complete link will be in the address line of your browser. Highlight that, and then use ctrl C and ctrl V.

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04-12-08 05:04 AM - Post#1409649    
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I found it! thank you.

I'll start another thread with the new picture.

Meet you at: 1953 frame off project 2 soon

have a nice day

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04-14-08 05:50 PM - Post#1411497    
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Hy guys, this is part 2 of the frame off project.

I agree with fellows who ask for a new thread, it will be faster to load, at least for the beginning...

Click the link below to go directly to the part 1 "1953 frame off project".

https://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/showtopic.php?ti...

Tonight, I pick up some painted parts. I'll work on this week, and let you show the progress later.



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04-14-08 05:52 PM - Post#1411499    
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Go to this link for part 2 of 1953 frame off project.

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04-14-08 08:35 PM - Post#1411646    
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Looking good!! Thanks for starting a new thread. Much faster!!!

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You're welcome!

I should restart to work on the frame next week or so, for now I have the steer axle to begin. When I pick up the steer axle parts yesterday, I left to the painter the left side of the axle. He'll paint it for the next monday.

I'll zinc some parts, like the master cylinder cover and it's plug.

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04-15-08 04:45 AM - Post#1411802    
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Your a very busy guy!! It all looks very good. Can't wait to see that frame completed.....



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  • 57 Rusty Ragtop Said:
Your a very busy guy!! It all looks very good. Can't wait to see that frame completed.....



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Can't wait myself to see that frame completed...I think my friend and I will have time this week (together) to work on the frame. We work quickly together on that frame. It's easier.

But alone I work on the other part of the car. This week end I worked on the steer axle. I had a problem with the tool I used to install the top A arm shaft. It's a hard shaft to torque, and my tool broke. I have to wait to monday and see my friend and make me a new one. But I install the lower A arm and the spindle. I use foam to avoid paint to go on the thread inside the A arm.

The plug and cover of the master cylinder are out to be zinc coated.





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04-20-08 07:18 PM - Post#1416006    
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wow good stuff reminds me of the 53 rolling chassie i put togethwe while back...



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04-20-08 07:38 PM - Post#1416037    
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Nice looking frame, mine "should" look like that after the correction. Do you know where I can found the two side body mount (outside one) just in front of the rear wheel?

Mine are very rusty, I'm in process to make new one, if I can found two good mount, I'll install it instead of working on making other new one. thanks!

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04-22-08 06:46 PM - Post#1417783    
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My friend make me another tool for installing the upper shaft for the A arm. This one is thougher and work well.

I install left side shaft too. I had put the right upper A arm tonight. I'll put tomorrow the coil spring and the right side will be all set.

I'm waiting for the left part, painter....





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04-23-08 04:49 PM - Post#1418627    
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tonight, I was working on the rest of the right side. I'm waiting the spacer from the painter (who else...it must be somebody! ) so I can't instal the back plate and the hub. I'm happy, it is looking great.





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04-23-08 06:21 PM - Post#1418712    
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I love the hardwood flooring in your shop!
I showed the wife the photos and said, "See? can I have that?" I can't repeat the answer.....

Very nice work...

Rusty

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04-23-08 07:47 PM - Post#1418783    
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You know, your parts look better than they did when the first left the GM plant. How are you going to explain this to the judges?

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04-24-08 03:35 AM - Post#1418909    
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  • 57 Rusty Ragtop Said:
I love the hardwood flooring in your shop!
I showed the wife the photos and said, "See? can I have that?" I can't repeat the answer.....

Very nice work...

Rusty



It's not real hardwood, I don't know how to tell in english, it's piece put togheter with glue. Some of that stuff can be put togheter by clicking it to each other. It was a bedroom just beside of my garage. I have a door to go in by this bedroom. So the floor was made like that. It's easy to clean and can resist the weight. I'm sorry if your wife can SEE and FEEL the true advantage to use hardwood in your shop. May be my wife shoud talk to your's?????

there is a picture of the old bedroom. The first door on the left open to the garage.






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04-24-08 03:39 AM - Post#1418912    
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  • raycow Said:
You know, your parts look better than they did when the first left the GM plant. How are you going to explain this to the judges?

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05-01-08 06:54 PM - Post#1424536    
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Tonight, I pick up the rest of the part at painter's shop. It was a bit long but they are great.

This guy work at home and outside as a mechanic. I can see him outside, and talk with him without going to his shop, because I'm working on the road and his boss is one of my customer.

I found the guy a bit stressed for a while (2 or 3 week), but don't mind with. But tonight, when I went to his shop, I saw the body shell of the Pontiac hit on the rear two fender on many place. Not only my car but a bike and something else too.

He had a crisis in his garage and our "toy" help him to lower is stress.....................I'm a bit confused because I can't take the job by myself, and I don't know anybody who can take the job right now....................I can understand a man if he have some problem but....

The car is reparable, there is not to big dent, but is worse right now than before, it was not suppose to............... I will sleep on it and tomorrow keeping smile. Let you know...

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05-03-08 07:31 AM - Post#1425373    
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last night, i visit another shop. The guy is skill for that kind of job, and willing to take the car not before xmas. He seem to be OK in is head!

Now I have to take the car out the actual body shop, store it until xmas.

The price is not the same too, but the job is a level higher. My goal to take the car rolling at the end of 2009 is gone. I'm not too worry about not reaching the 2009 goal,

The guy suggest me to find another body shell in good condition, because mine is very rusty under and on the rear fender.

I've not seen any good here, do you have one in your rear pocket????

Today I'll working on the steer axle, and try to finish it. I'll post some picture after.

Let me know, seriously, if you have a good body shell in 2 doors sedan version, 53 or 54. I have just to change the dash and it will look like a Pontiac canadian!

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05-04-08 11:36 AM - Post#1426075    
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now this is the picture of my afternoon yesterday.

I'm waiting tie rod rubber from Chevy's of the 40's, so the tie rod will be on the steer axle later.

I'll talk with the painter who hit the car, and going to take out the car... I don't know when. Keep you inform...and picture of the damage as soon as I can.

have a good weekend.



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05-07-08 03:25 PM - Post#1428222    
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I went monday night to the painter shop. Yes the one who hit the body shell. I have time to talk with, and he tell me he was drunk and can't handle life pressure at this time! OK!!! I said to me, but I would enjoy most if he could hit something else, anyway it was crazy that night to see him having EXTRA motivation to work on my car now.

He let me know that the dammage on the rear fender cost me anything (I hoping so!!!). I think if I let him touch the car again, he could fix it and paint it in 2 days! He was SSOOOOOOOOOOO full of energy, he could move montain.

I found another body man and I tell him to do not touch the car again. I was desapointed, he was hoping to correct his mistake.

He will not have this "chance" , for me it is timeout with him.

I'll put back my old frame in service, install small wheel on the rear, bring the frame at the shop, put back the body on, and bring it to my friend shop, the one who help me to correct the frame.

It is a good place to put the body, we will have it near to check the new frame and body fit before painting it.

The "rough" painter accept to paint my frame and other small stuff. (because is near of my house)

I'll show picture of the dents when the body will be out of his shop, in the next 10 or 15 days.

Frame: we should touch it soon, I know I said you that before, it's always true!!!!

Have a nice day.

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05-07-08 06:48 PM - Post#1428394    
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If I'm not mistakin', the French language has about 300,000 words. Us Americans on the other hand have about 1.2 million. If you need to borrow a couple of extra words to cuss out your painter, just give me a call!

Just when you think everything goes wrong, and you have no direction to go, that's usually when it turns around!

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05-08-08 06:40 AM - Post#1428668    
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thank you Rusty,

You're right, I think it as a new "beginning" in this restoration, because at first, I did not want to strip the inside of the car, and the inside of the fenders, because of the price and the capability of the painter, but the new one plan to drop the car into the "paint stip" container, for easier job after, and greater result, inside and out.

I accept that way to work with the "new" one. He have the facility to make it, so ... anyway my harm is in the "gearbox" I can't remove it! I have to go forward.

I keep smiling and working on the car, but the end will be later a bit.

have a nice day.

I'll call you for some "word" to say to the painter if I need it , you know my english is not as it should in that situation. Thanks!



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05-08-08 06:06 PM - Post#1429123    
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today I pick up the cover plate of the master cylinder, I will clean the other parts and assemble it next week. My friend's place should be clean enought next week to work on the frame, I hope so.



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05-09-08 07:45 PM - Post#1429906    
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I receive today some other parts, the wheel cylinder, hoses, and drums.

I install the cylinder and the hoses. The tie rod are now install too. The assembly look mostly done by now. Only the brake hardware, hub and the drum and that's it.

I found this morning a very rare car, it's less built then mine, another 53 canadian Pontiac, but a step higher, the Laurentian. Same 2 doors, with some different trim.

I never knew this car, look good. I wrote to the owner for other picture. For the outside, the body look fair and straight, I ask for the underneat, you know why......

I'm asking to myself what to do if the undercarriage is great (I assume that is not so great, we are in Québec, the country of snow and salt, and this year we receive enough snow the the 10 years to come).

For fun, if the car is in great shape, the owner asking 6800$, I can bargain it a bit. I need to restore the body shell of mine, and correct the frame, and if I can have a fresh frame and a fresh body shell to help mine... I don't want to restore that one, the project is mine, because it is mine for so long (13 years) and is automatic, the other one is manual. But I can use the major parts to restore mine, the negative part of that story is, the price I have to pay and the time I have to found to dissamble the Laurentian.

Don't know what to do, I've spend over the year a lot of money in this car for maintain it and make it clean and looking good. Now I have to face other expense because I have to "change" my "explosive" painter by a more "reliable" one, at a higher cost.

I'll wait the picture, and they tell all I need to know.

Now look at the picture of the nearly finished steer axle.







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05-09-08 10:43 PM - Post#1429966    
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Perhaps I am not understanding your problem correctly. Could you install the Laurentian body on your restored chassis? This would give you a car to drive while you continue working on your original body. You could also decide whether or not you want to restore the Laurentian chassis.

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05-10-08 07:21 PM - Post#1430454    
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Your understanding is correct,

I'm not rushed to drive something, when I parked the car in sept.06 I was a bit tired. It was a good thing to work on and not drive it.

I have not a lot of room for a second "part" car. I have to think twice before making a move, and spend the money correctly. I know, for being in the hobby for long time, spending money wisely on those car is sometime difficult, and this time it is hard to think what I have to do.

If this Laurentian (it is a bolt in project, with my frame) worth the price, and the underneath is "perfect", all money and work made before is lost, but if the car is rusted like mine, it will be easier to look forward with my own car parts.

I'll call the owner, he do not send me anything since I leave him a email, and I will let you know.

Sincerly, I hope it is rusted.

Picture of the Laurentian



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05-13-08 03:46 AM - Post#1431907    
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I'm a bit frustrated, you know for the body, not only it has been dammage, but also it will be done later, and my friend who help me for the frame does not have room right now (it was suppose to this week) for working on it

Last night i made a stand for the steer axle, it is now too heavy for the engine support bracket (the one welded on the axle). I make a caddy like stand with 4 wheel, and it have 2 shaft welded upward for using the 2 hole under the steer axle crossmember.

A friend of mine will help me to install it on the stand and I will take a picture.

I prepare to take the body out for next week. The old frame will be ready for saturday morning, and I will going to put the body on and bolt it. After I'll call a towing and ship it to my friend shop to match it to the new frame. Keep you inform...

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05-13-08 03:38 PM - Post#1432230    
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Today, I talk to the owner of the Laurentian, he tell me that is Pontiac is the 8th marvel of the world! Like me you ear that before, but I must see it by my self.

If this car is SOOOOO good, like the owner said to me, I'm in front of a big decision to take.

I'll buy it, use is frame and body, take my steeraxle, diff, engine and transmission. The Lautentian is standard with a higher diff. ratio.

For you guys, it is more valuable automatic (powerglide) or 3 on the tree? (on a 53-54 model)

For me it is automatic with the original transmission.

And on the other hand, I have some money spent on the "new" frame, I would use it, but if the original one is perfect(I will see....) I prefer take it and stop correcting the other one.

For the body shell, my original one is not hard to beat (too rusty). It is repairable, but at higher cost.

I will see the car on friday evening, I will bring my camera and take picture.

Let you know (again...)

have a nice day.

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05-13-08 05:21 PM - Post#1432292    
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Good luck, hope it turns about the way you want it to. Can't wait to see the pictures. Mike



 
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05-13-08 06:59 PM - Post#1432391    
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Thanks,

don't worry, I'll post picture as soon as I can. No later than saturday morning.

A friend of mine visit me tonight, and we put the steer axle on the caddy. Great! It's light to move on the floor and I let my engine stand free.

It will be usefull for another 49-54 project. I will take picture and post it tomorrow.

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05-14-08 12:22 PM - Post#1432833    
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this is the picture of the caddy I make 2 days ago. With some old iron and 2 hours only. Now I can put some other weight like the drum and brake hardware. It is defenitly not a good tool to assemble the steer axle. This way I can finish it without putting it on the floor.






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