Gain extra benefits by becoming a Supporting Member Click here find out how!

Classic Performance Products Classic Parts
American Auto Wire Classic Industries
Danchuk Catalog
Hellwig Products IncPerformance Rod & CustomJoin the Community today
Ecklers AutoMotiveNu-Relics Power Windows





Username Post: Impala sway bars        (Topic#172154)
StanC. 
Senior Member
Posts: 85

Loc: Mesa, AZ
Reg: 06-06-07
10-13-07 06:31 PM - Post#1273424    

I picked up a rear sway bar for my wagon. It was an inch or two too narrow so I had to fab custom brackets. The wagon doesn't wallow as much in the turns. I have a modern tubular sway bar off of a 2000 I think. For my '82 the width is right but here again I'll be building custom mounts. Its getting all new springs, shocks, and a front end rebuild so stiffer bars should modernize the ride. Anyone done this swap?

'64 K-20 rock crawler, SB 409, ZZ4 roller, 4-wheel power disk brakes, power steering, cruz control.
'83 Impala War Wagon, SB 383, LT-1 roller,


 




mhamilton 
Senior Member
Posts: 183
mhamilton
Loc: North Carolina
Reg: 10-15-04
10-16-07 06:46 PM - Post#1275537    
    In response to StanC.

You probably already know, but you can use any of the parts from the '94-'96 Impala SS on your '83. The chassis didn't change in all those years.

Haven't tried any upgrades on my Impala, but I've just purchased a stock (thin) rear stabilizer for my '80 Malibu sedan. Replacing the front bushings and links really helped the handling, but I'm hoping for less side-to-side rocking when going through bumps. Have heard very good things about handling improvements with the bar, too.

-Michael




 
NotDadsW41 
Lurker
Posts: 99

Reg: 01-21-07
10-21-07 09:15 AM - Post#1278650    
    In response to mhamilton

I wrote this up some years ago for my 77-90 B-body group on Yahoogroups, it might help you some.


How do I make my B-body handle better?


First off let me say that this is directed primarily at the 77-90 cars, those without the F41 or 9c1 suspensions and is directed at the budget minded owner. This is not the ultimate handling setup for a B-body, it's how to make it much better for very little money.

Change your front sway bar
Most 77-90 B-bodies, that don't have the F41 suspension package, have hollow front sway bars. You can determine this by looking at the ends of the sway bar. Near the holes for the end links, on the bottom side of the sway bar, you will see a drain hole. There should be one on each side. These bars are nothing more than hollow pipe and they will rust from the inside out and break. Change that out for a 9C1 sway bar, GM P/N 457923 using the stock end links and bushing will net a big improvement in handling and a considerable drop in body roll during cornering.

Want even better handling?
A 2nd generation F-car('70-'81) WS6 front sway bar, GM P/N 356534. This part is no longer available new from GM. But thousands are out there in junkyards, go get dirty for once.
Combine this with the '95-'96 1LE sway bar end links, GM P/N 10221779. You'll need two(2). And also the 4th gen. ('93-present) F-car sway bar bushing, GM P/N 10288551. You'll need two(2).

More? You want more?? Replace your Bumpstops. Add the 2nd design S-10 ZQ8 micro-cellular progressive jounce bumper, or the foamy bumpstop GM P/N 15956547. You'll need one for each side.
Add a rear sway bar - The sway bar mentioned below applies only to sedans. This swaybar will NOT fit wagons.
Quite a few, perhaps most, 1977-1990 Bodies came without a rear sway bar. In this case you will need to change the rear lower control arms to be able to add the rear sway bar. The cheapest way to do this that I've found is the 9C1 Lower Control Arm Kit GM P/N 10289786. The Lower Control Arm kit is an upgraded pair of LCAs and the necessary mounting hardware from a technical service bulletin(PRODUCT SAFETY CAMPAIGN 96-C-18) for 91-96 9C1 and 9C6 equipped Caprices. These will also fit all 77-90 model b-bodies. If your car is not equipped with a factory rear sway bar, these or an aftermarket set of LCAs will be required to install a rear sway bar.

The kit includes:
2 Lower Control Arms
4 LCA Attaching Bolts
4 LCA Attaching Nuts
4 Stabilizer Bar Attaching Bolts
4 Stabilizer Bar Attaching Nuts
4 Stabilizer Bar Washers
4 Stabilizer Bar Brackets
4 Stabilizer Bar Adapters

The best bang for the money rear sway bar would be the 9C1 rear sway bar. It is still availble thru GM P/N 10207649.
A great improvement over this would be the HO rear sway bar for the 1994-1996 ImpalaSS.
Check with Summit Racing or Jegs for these.
For you wagon owners get in touch with Bruce Allison at Malibu Performance. e-mail malibruce@earthlink.net (818) 222-6725. He should be able to set you up with an HO rear sway bar for the b-body wagon.

For swaybars, also check with Year One. They offer Addco bars(front and rear) for sedans AND wagons.

Add the Buick Frame Brace
The Buick Frame Brace, GM P/N 10225142, from TSB #921046. This will help on two fronts. One - it reduces exhaust noise or "droan" by stiffening the frame. And two - Guess what else stiffening the frame does....Makes the car handle better! This is literally the cheapest and easiest handling modification that you can do. Want the same benefits of this and be able to tow something??? Installing a hitch will have the same effects. Once again the Buick Frame Brace will fit only sedans and will not fit on wagons.

Add Airlift 1000 air bags
The Airlift1000 air bags will do a couple of things. First, they will give you added load hauling capabilities. Second, they will give you the ability to adjust the preload on the suspension to aid the off the line traction for accleration. I recommend installing them with seperate air lines for each bag rather than using the "T" fitting included in the kit. You can drill two holes behind the license plate braket to mount the air valves. That way they are both hidden and you have easy access to them.

Change your shock absorbers
Even if you don't have a 9C1(Police Package) B-body, I recommend getting a set of shocks for a 9C1 in your favorite brand. I used the cheapest ones I could find, Gabriel Red Ryders, on my 1986 Caprice. This modification turned the mushy, couch driving ride into a more responsive, firmer ride.

Change Your Springs
Now if you want to do this on the cheap, I usually do. Get a set of used 1994-1996 ImpalaSS springs. They will lower the car an inch or so overall. If you have more $$$, get a set of lowering springs made for the 1994-1996 ImpalaSS. These will lower the car even more. Your ride will suffer though.



CD Smalley
1991 W41 #142
1995 Astro
1997 C1500
1989 Caprice 9C1
1977-90 GM B-Body email list Owner @ yahoogroups.com

It's alive again!
www.b-body.org
www.forums.b-body.org


 
StanC. 
Senior Member
Posts: 85

Loc: Mesa, AZ
Reg: 06-06-07
10-30-07 08:54 PM - Post#1285253    
    In response to NotDadsW41

Wow, thats a lot of good tips. My rear bar is a bone yard special. They love me at the pick-apart. Here in AZ we probably don't have to worry about rust. Thats why my 25 year old wagon doesn't have any. My new front springs were purchased from rockauto.com. I'll buy new rear ones there soon. The beast is lowered now from age and over loading. I'm going to stock ride height and ground clearance. Any one have a caddy axle code? I've heard I can go to 3.08 rear cogs with factory posi by getting the right caddy rear.

'64 K-20 rock crawler, SB 409, ZZ4 roller, 4-wheel power disk brakes, power steering, cruz control.
'83 Impala War Wagon, SB 383, LT-1 roller,


 
NotDadsW41 
Lurker
Posts: 99

Reg: 01-21-07
10-31-07 04:29 PM - Post#1285746    
    In response to StanC.

Look for a 94-96 b-body with an LT1. Those are good candidates for 3.08s and G80 units.

Also, be aware, the wagon has a wider track. I'm not sure the whole rear-end unit is a direct swap...

The internals are.



CD Smalley
1991 W41 #142
1995 Astro
1997 C1500
1989 Caprice 9C1
1977-90 GM B-Body email list Owner @ yahoogroups.com

It's alive again!
www.b-body.org
www.forums.b-body.org


 
jetmechmarty 
Member
Posts: 83
jetmechmarty
Loc: Dahlonega, GA, USA
Reg: 03-22-02
11-03-07 07:07 AM - Post#1287492    
    In response to NotDadsW41

I had a 1988 Caprice wagon. The rear-end unit does not swap with a sedan. It will mount and everything will go fine until you install the wheels. The tires will contact the inner fenders. B-body station wagons have longer axles than their sedan counterparts. At least, that's my experience.

Marty (in Georgia)

Marty (in Georgia)


 
caprice38 
Member
Posts: 24

Loc: Stokcton, CA
Reg: 11-27-07
11-28-07 09:47 AM - Post#1306309    
    In response to jetmechmarty

NotDadsW41 would that suspension information work on a 1982 2 door Caprice?

1982 2 Door Caprice
Stokc LG4 305 V8


Edited by caprice38 on 11-28-07 09:48 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
NotDadsW41 
Lurker
Posts: 99

Reg: 01-21-07
11-28-07 05:43 PM - Post#1306624    
    In response to caprice38

Yes it will. Pretty much anything from 77-96 actually. But that article was directed towards my 77-90 B-body list on Yahoogroups.

CD Smalley
1991 W41 #142
1995 Astro
1997 C1500
1989 Caprice 9C1
1977-90 GM B-Body email list Owner @ yahoogroups.com

It's alive again!
www.b-body.org
www.forums.b-body.org


 




Icon Legend Permissions Topic Options
Report Post

Quote Post

Quick Reply

Print Topic

Email Topic

4331 Views




FusionBB
FusionBB™ Version 2.1
©2003-2006 InteractivePHP, Inc.
Execution time: 0.091 seconds.   Total Queries: 16   Zlib Compression is on.
All times are (GMT -0800) Pacific. Current time is 09:11 PM
Top