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Username Post: 9-Passenger Station Wagons        (Topic#109644)
Anonymous 

08-16-05 06:01 AM - Post#761415    

How many Tri-Five 9-passenger station wagons are out there in collectors' hands?

I saw a 1956 Bel Air Beauville 9-passenger station wagon (beautiful car!) at the 1955 Chevy Golden Anniversary Show in Long Beach, California, this past weekend. The third seat faces forward, so the second seat has a small separate jump-type seat that lifts up to allow egress to the third seat (I should have taken a photo).

It hit me that after going to hundreds of shows and seeing thousands of Tri-Fives, I have never seen another 9-passenger wagon. Robert Genat lists the 1956 production figures as 19,394 Beauville (9-passenger) station wagons in the 210 series and 14,931 in the Bel Air series in his book "Original Chevrolet 1955 1956 1957." So, originally, rarer than convertibles but much more common than Nomads.

Does anyone have a clue as to how many survived?



 

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55 Beauville 
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Re: 9-Passenger Station Wagons
08-16-05 09:00 AM - Post#761416    
    In response to MrMudBay

Quote:


It hit me that after going to hundreds of shows and seeing thousands of Tri-Fives, I have never seen another 9-passenger wagon....[snipped]
Does anyone have a clue as to how many survived?




One of the guys in our club noticed the same thing. He said he's been a Tri-5 guy for 35 years, and he's only seen one 4-dr Belair wagon. The 9-passenger might even be more rare now.

Like you found out, the "family" type wagons sold quite a few more when new than the Nomads did. The Nomads became "instant classics", the other wagons just got pushed to the side and forgotten.

As for the question of whether they're out there hiding in the weeds or "gone" I can offer this: I met a guy last weekend who told me he personally crushed "untold numbers" of them" (speaking of the wagons) because nobody thought they'd ever be worth anything.



 
Old_Longboarder 
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Re: 9-Passenger Station Wagons
08-16-05 09:06 AM - Post#761417    
    In response to MrMudBay

MrMud, Did I talk to you at that show? I'm betting I did. Was the wagon you saw the one pictured on the left?

Home.., is where dog hair sticks to everything but the dog.





 
vabeach56wagon 
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Re: 9-Passenger Station Wagons
08-16-05 11:11 AM - Post#761418    
    In response to MrMudBay

What is especially neat about the '56 Bel Air Beauville is that it was the only year the 9 passenger was offered in both the 210 and Bel Air series. In 57 the 9 passenger was limited to the 210 series if memory serves me correctly.

'56 was the first year for the 9 passenger. Consequently there are some very strange aspects to the car when compared to other wagon models: Nomad, 6 passenger and of course the Sedan Delivery (which really shouldn't be termed a wagon as it was marketed as a truck).

Another little tidbit, the famed Jere Stahl was an NHRA National Record holder in the Jr Stock classes with a '56 9 passenger wagon. He kept the third seat in the car while racing it.

I cannot for the life of me figure out how any adult, or for that matter, teeny bopping kid, can sit upright in that third seat. There is absolutely no room between the second seat and the floor pan kick up.

The Gob is a 9 passenger and proud of it.


Paul

Original builder of the Gobstomper - '56 210 9 passenger wagon now in other's hands. Current Ride is '69 X33D80 Z28 Camaro



 
rj_ly 
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Re: 9-Passenger Station Wagons
08-16-05 11:14 AM - Post#761419    
    In response to vabeach56wagon

Thirty some years of car shows and cruise-ins I've only seen a handfull of 9 passenger wagons.

57 Hrdtp(mine for 40 YEARS JULY 12)
57 210 4-dr Sdn(37 yrs Aug 12)
57 Hrdtp(32 yrs Jan 12)
57(windowed)S. Delivery(31 yrs Oct 12)
57 150 Wgn(24 yrs Mar 12)
57 210 2-dr Sdn(8 yrs Oct 12)


 
Tabasco 
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Re: 9-Passenger Station Wagons
08-16-05 01:25 PM - Post#761420    
    In response to MrMudBay

Here is the one I have. I bought it from a Tri-five parts dealer. He had already pretty much parted it out before I saw it. I bought it for quarter window and tailgate glass and the seamless frame. It was originally Power-Pack, Powerglide, power steering, power brakes and factory air. Sure was a nice car when new. It still has the second seat but the third seat is gone.



Louis

Link to Pictures of our Cars


 
Anonymous 

Re: 9-Passenger Station Wagons
08-16-05 02:09 PM - Post#761421    
    In response to Old_Longboarder

To Old_Longboarder: Yes, you did. Great car. Thanks for including a post so we can all see a picture of it.



 
Jay_Hammond 
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Re: 9-Passenger Station Wagons
08-16-05 03:19 PM - Post#761422    
    In response to MrMudBay

I've got another one here in Delaware, a 56 BelAir, original 265, power pac, power glide, power brakes, padded dash, spot light, EZI. Imported from San Diego last year. All interior pieces are intact.
Jay

'57 150 270hp '57 Delray 283hp '57 Adobe Beige rag, 220hp, O.D, posi '57 Nomad 220hp, glide '36 Plymouth (oops) woodie, w/325 Dodge hemi


 
LtFrankDrebin 
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Re: 9-Passenger Station Wagons
08-16-05 03:21 PM - Post#761423    
    In response to Tabasco

Seeing that you're in Texas - this '56 BelAir Beauville has got to be in better shape than a project car from up here in the NE. You're going to continue parting and eventually scrapping such a rare car?

'56 210 Townsman wagon 6cyl/3spd OD | '58 Impala Sierra Gold 348


 
57wagon 
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Re: 9-Passenger Station Wagons
08-16-05 03:50 PM - Post#761424    
    In response to MrMudBay

i have one rustbucket 57 9pass that i drive and know of one more in my area.havnt seen any 56s around here yet.

i get off on 57 chevys,i get off on screamin guitars.and a 60 chevy p/u. http://community.webshots.com/user/57210man


 
57_sedan_delivery 
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Re: 9-Passenger Station Wagons
08-17-05 12:01 AM - Post#761425    
    In response to MrMudBay

I've known of several over the years out in Az. and even had a trailer made out of one for a while. While they are neat wagons and unique usually the 3rd seat stuff got pulled out and tossed/lost over the years.

Mike W.

Founding father Desert Classic Chevys in Phoenix, Az.

1957 sedan delivery 454 TH400
1956 windowed sedan delivery US Dept of Ag car
1956 Chevy 3100 US Navy pickup
1959 rare GMC 100 fleet option 100 pickup


 
Old_Longboarder 
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Re: 9-Passenger Station Wagons
08-17-05 02:16 AM - Post#761426    
    In response to MrMudBay

Welcome to Chevy Talk MrMud. (I knew wearing a CT shirt to that show would get us some new people here!)

Home.., is where dog hair sticks to everything but the dog.





 
55210SEDAN 
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Re: 9-Passenger Station Wagons
08-17-05 11:48 AM - Post#761427    
    In response to MrMudBay

Hey Guys, jsut wondering, how rare, or rather I should say valuable are ragular say 55 210 four door wagons? And are 2 door wagons more desirable than 4 doors you think? I have access to a 55 wagon that has a very solid front clip, and the original engine, (might even run, it has everything there, battery, rad, evertyhing). The interior is all there also. One quarter is a little banged and the tailgate is a little rotter, but overall looks pretty solid. I always thought these cars were not worth much at all, waht do you guys think. I also have acess to a 2 door wagon, but not in such great shape. Oh, and also, are 4 door hardtops rare and valuable, or just oddball cars? I know a place that has a few 4 door hardtops, a 56 and 57.
-Joe

1955 Chevy 210 2-Door Sedan http://members.cardomain.com/55210sedan


 
57_sedan_delivery 
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Re: 9-Passenger Station Wagons
08-18-05 12:32 AM - Post#761428    
    In response to 55210SEDAN

4-dr hardtops are rare cars, as are their parts. All wagons have value, even a '55 , but a 2-dr is usally worth more (more desirable) than a 4-dr wagon.

Mike W.

Founding father Desert Classic Chevys in Phoenix, Az.

1957 sedan delivery 454 TH400
1956 windowed sedan delivery US Dept of Ag car
1956 Chevy 3100 US Navy pickup
1959 rare GMC 100 fleet option 100 pickup


 
Ken Rahn 
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Re: 9-Passenger Station Wagons
08-18-05 01:03 AM - Post#761429    
    In response to 57_sedan_delivery

I can attest to the part of hard to find parts for a 4 door hardtop. Luckily, I found that junkyard close to my house with 3 4 door hardtops in it. I still have yet to find the original 57 bumper jack there, but I did pick up a very nice (hardly any rust) 56 bumper jack. I just hope to have the car finished this fall, if not, early in the spring.



 
rj_ly 
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Re: 9-Passenger Station Wagons
08-18-05 05:10 AM - Post#761430    
    In response to Ken Rahn

No 5/6/7 should be discounted. Whether it be a two door, four door or three door.

A lot think the Convertibles or Nomads are the "Rarer" of the breed but try to find parts for a windowed Delivery or any Delivery for that matter. (ask '57 Sedan Delivery about this)

57 Hrdtp(mine for 40 YEARS JULY 12)
57 210 4-dr Sdn(37 yrs Aug 12)
57 Hrdtp(32 yrs Jan 12)
57(windowed)S. Delivery(31 yrs Oct 12)
57 150 Wgn(24 yrs Mar 12)
57 210 2-dr Sdn(8 yrs Oct 12)


 
55210SEDAN 
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Re: 9-Passenger Station Wagons
08-18-05 05:40 AM - Post#761431    
    In response to rj_ly

Isn't a windowed Sedan Delivery really really rare? I didn't even know they made them until yesterday.
-Joe

1955 Chevy 210 2-Door Sedan http://members.cardomain.com/55210sedan


 
55210SEDAN 
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Re: 9-Passenger Station Wagons
08-18-05 05:42 AM - Post#761432    
    In response to 55210SEDAN

Also, I hve acess to a few 4 door hardtops, but aren't they really jsut rare and ard to find and not really desirable? At least they don't really appeal to me that much.
-Joe

1955 Chevy 210 2-Door Sedan http://members.cardomain.com/55210sedan


 
Ken Rahn 
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Re: 9-Passenger Station Wagons
08-18-05 06:39 AM - Post#761433    
    In response to 55210SEDAN

I did find 1 delivery wagon (57) in that junkyard close to my house. Didnt look like too many good parts on it. I am not too familiar with the wagons, is the delivery solid panels back the sides, no glass? If so, then that is what I saw there, along with a few 57 wagons



 
55210SEDAN 
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Re: 9-Passenger Station Wagons
08-18-05 08:53 AM - Post#761434    
    In response to Ken Rahn

Yea the sedan deliverys have noe glass behind the front doo, but rather metal panels. Then there is a thing supposedly called a windowed sedan delivery, which is a sedan delivery with the glass. Now, what distinguishes this supposedly is the rear door is not like a regular wagon door. So it looks liek a 2 door wagon from the side, but does not have a tailgate door, I am assuming it has one side opening door, or lift up opening door. Correct me guys if I am wrong.
-Joe

1955 Chevy 210 2-Door Sedan http://members.cardomain.com/55210sedan


 
rj_ly 
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Re: 9-Passenger Station Wagons
08-18-05 09:39 AM - Post#761435    
    In response to 55210SEDAN

http://www.cardomain.com/profile/rj_lyn


This is my windowed Sedan Delivery, 1 of reported 92 made. (and no thanks to cardomain for shinking all my uploaded photos)
One piece back door as well as no back seat.


This is my 150 Wagon.
Two piece tail gate and does have a back seat.



Photo of regular '57 Delivery (not mine)
Also has one piece back door and no back seat.


57 Hrdtp(mine for 40 YEARS JULY 12)
57 210 4-dr Sdn(37 yrs Aug 12)
57 Hrdtp(32 yrs Jan 12)
57(windowed)S. Delivery(31 yrs Oct 12)
57 150 Wgn(24 yrs Mar 12)
57 210 2-dr Sdn(8 yrs Oct 12)


 
55210SEDAN 
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Re: 9-Passenger Station Wagons
08-18-05 09:58 AM - Post#761436    
    In response to rj_ly

Hey thanks RJ for the pics, that's a nice '57 windowed SD you have there. So I guess I should have looked more closely at the wagons in this guys yard, maybe one of them was a windowed SD, you never know.
-Joe

1955 Chevy 210 2-Door Sedan http://members.cardomain.com/55210sedan


 
57_sedan_delivery 
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Re: 9-Passenger Station Wagons
08-19-05 01:06 AM - Post#761437    
    In response to Ken Rahn

Quote:

I did find 1 delivery wagon (57) in that junkyard close to my house. Didnt look like too many good parts on it. I am not too familiar with the wagons, is the delivery solid panels back the sides, no glass? If so, then that is what I saw there, along with a few 57 wagons




And this is where? I don't care so much about parts on it but instead parts IN it as I need the side inside trim pieces for the cargo area. These are the pieces that go around the area where the side windows would have been if it were a wagon.

Mike W.

Founding father Desert Classic Chevys in Phoenix, Az.

1957 sedan delivery 454 TH400
1956 windowed sedan delivery US Dept of Ag car
1956 Chevy 3100 US Navy pickup
1959 rare GMC 100 fleet option 100 pickup


 
rj_ly 
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Re: 9-Passenger Station Wagons
08-19-05 06:18 AM - Post#761438    
    In response to 57_sedan_delivery

I'd like to see the Delivery NO MATTER what.

Cause........... you just never know do you?

57 Hrdtp(mine for 40 YEARS JULY 12)
57 210 4-dr Sdn(37 yrs Aug 12)
57 Hrdtp(32 yrs Jan 12)
57(windowed)S. Delivery(31 yrs Oct 12)
57 150 Wgn(24 yrs Mar 12)
57 210 2-dr Sdn(8 yrs Oct 12)


 
Ken Rahn 
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Re: 9-Passenger Station Wagons
08-19-05 07:37 AM - Post#761439    
    In response to rj_ly

the 57 delivery I saw was in the junkyard I described under proper bumper jack subject. It is located in PA, just north of Dover,PA. I placed the phone number and street there. If you need the info, send me a private message, I will forward the info onto you



 
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Re: 9-Passenger Station Wagons
08-22-05 02:55 AM - Post#761440    
    In response to Ken Rahn

Got it, thanks.

Mike W.

Founding father Desert Classic Chevys in Phoenix, Az.

1957 sedan delivery 454 TH400
1956 windowed sedan delivery US Dept of Ag car
1956 Chevy 3100 US Navy pickup
1959 rare GMC 100 fleet option 100 pickup


 
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05-08-18 03:10 PM - Post#2733432    
    In response to Ken Rahn

I just had to chime in here on the subject of 9 passenger 57s . Every thing I read about them says it was not offered in the bel air. This is very disconcerting to me because I owned a 9 passenger wagon in the 70s. It was my third 57 , the first two being a two dr. Htp, the other a 4 dr. Htp. They were bel airs , as was my wagon! If I’m lying, I’m dying. The wagon had a 283 w/ three speed on the column. Factory air . Isn’t it at all possible that it was a special order from the factory? I distinctly remember it because the back seat was split , it had a smaller section that would fold down allowing access to the third seat. You had to fold legs down on the third seat. I am kicking myself for ever selling any of my 57s and won’t be happy until I have another. I wish I had pictures of the wagon to show y’all. Do y’all think Chevrolet still have any records that I could research ?



 
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09-17-18 11:12 AM - Post#2746438    
    In response to 55 Beauville

Greetings All...it has been a few years but wanted to reply that I still have our 56 BELAIR BEAUVILLE
THAT MY DAD BOUGHT NEW FROM GOOD CHEVROLET IN BAKERSFIELD. SOMEHOW IT SURVIVED FIVE BOYS. HE ADDED A MARK IV AIR CONDITIONER AND IT HAS REMAINED STOCK WITH A 265 POWER PAC AND A 4 BARREL CARB. AIR STILL BLOWS COLD AND THE ORIGINAL LIGHTER WORKS. THE ORIGINAL ROCHESTER CARB WAS BRAND NEW FOR THAT CAR AND WAS RIDDEN WITH PROBLEMS AND NEVER PERFORMED FROM THE GET GO. NOT UNTIL IT WAS REPLACED MORE RECENTLY WITH A 56 CARTER DID I REALIZE WHAT WE HAD BEEN MISSING ALL THOSE YEARS. IVORY AND BLACK UPHOLSTERY AND INDIA IVORY OVER NASSAU BLUE FOR PAINT. NEW PAINT AND NOS UPHOLSTERY ABOUT 30 YEARS AGO. BACK SEAT WAS LIKE NEW AS IT WAS PUT UP IN THE RAFTERS AND FORGOTTEN ABOUT. ONLY GOOD THING ABOUT RIDING BACK THERE WAS A BACKHAND COULDN'T REACH YOU!!
CHEERS ...!! STEVE C ...SACRAMENTO, CA



 
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10-24-18 08:55 PM - Post#2749497    
    In response to ffwildwood69

Just because your '57 wagon had those extras, doesn't make it a BelAir. There was no 9 passenger BelAir wagon for '57. Sounds like you had the 210 4dr 9 pass wagon.

'56 210 Townsman wagon 6cyl/3spd OD | '58 Impala Sierra Gold 348


 
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10-25-18 06:00 PM - Post#2749579    
    In response to LtFrankDrebin

Interestingly, I was looking at that auction site we all know and love today at 56 Chevrolet's, and there's a 56 Sedan Delivery, advertised as a "Wagon". BUT, someone has added a "rear seat" to it, and it's a third row rear seat with the offset rear backrest to normally provide better access to the rear. I just thought, someone went through a lot of trouble just to ruin a 56 Chevrolet Sedan Delivery, why not just ruin it with a "regular Wagon seat"? But, that's just me. Let the throwing of the Molotov's begin. There were a few other things that were "just not right", about this Sedan Delivery, but that was the biggest. JMO. I am Butch/56sedandelivery.




 

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