apache31
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10-17-09 08:14 PM - Post#1790152
55.2-59 Apache
Let me see if I can wird this correctly.
GUYS WITH STOCK WIRING SET-UP
1 - Do you have parking lights or do the front turn signal lights only function as turn signals and not as parking lights?
2 - If you have parking lights...
Are they "on" in headlight switch position 1? (when headlights are off) and then "off" when headlights are on (position 2)?
3 - Or are they on with headlights as well?
With my previous wiring system, I had parking lights when headlight switch was in position 1 and if memory serves me, the pkg lights went off when moved to position 2 on headlight switch (headlights on).
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Gazza51
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10-18-09 02:28 PM - Post#1790467
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Mine is a '56 3100 and #3
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apache31
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10-18-09 05:42 PM - Post#1790578
In response to Gazza51
What about when you pull the headlight switch to the number one position, do the parking lights come on? Or is it only when you pull headlight switch to number 2 position (headlights on)?
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 Don57
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10-19-09 05:00 AM - Post#1790777
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If you want it as it came from the factory, when you pull the switch to the first position, only the parking lights are on. When you pull the switch all the way out, the headlights are on and the parking lights are off.
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apache31
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10-19-09 08:23 AM - Post#1790871
In response to Don57
I thought I recalled it to be that way. Thank you for confirming this.
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Donny
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10-20-09 07:21 AM - Post#1791395
In response to apache31
Rich,
In a stock application, the parking lamps come on in the first click position along with the tail lamps. When the switch is pulled out to the second click, the parking lamps shut off on every vehicle that that was ever made prior to 1968. The federal gov't made the automakers have fulltime running lamps starting in 1968. The feed came off of a secondary tail lamp feed on the H/L switch, or was just doubled off of the taillamp circuit depending on the make or model. With the new system that you have, there are 2 independent feeds. We set all of our systems up to the latest gov't regulations. If you want the parking lights to go off as original, you have to remove the brown wire in the corner of the H/L switch and move it diagonally to the empty cavity in the opposite corner of the switch. That blade on the switch functions as a part time parking lamp feed and will give you that function if you so desire.
Donny
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Nomad Jack
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10-20-09 09:42 AM - Post#1791464
In response to Donny
Interesting, thanks for the info.
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Oldbuz
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10-21-09 04:15 AM - Post#1791776
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Let us remember,Most of these old trucks did not have turn signals,parking lights only.That is why you will notice there is only 1 wire on the front parking lights.Also most trucks only had 1 tail/brake light.Most truck were puchased by farmers and they had no need for the extras.
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Gazza51
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10-21-09 04:00 PM - Post#1792082
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Position 1 parking lights
Position 2 parking lights and headlights
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Donny
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10-22-09 06:17 AM - Post#1792392
In response to Gazza51
In an updated harness yes, in an original application no. Position 1 is tail and parking lamps, position 2 tail and head lamps, parking lamps go out.
Donny
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Gazza51
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10-23-09 04:38 AM - Post#1792929
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Not disputing your info aawtech just stating my setup 
My '65 Mustang lighting works as you describe.
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Donny
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10-23-09 06:18 AM - Post#1792967
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That's interesting as I just completed work on our '64-6 Mustang Classic Update kit and had to modify the stock lighting circuit so that the parking lamps came on with the tail lamps so that they were on full time. Strange?? Are you sure that your stock wire has not be modified? I know in parts of Europe that that are very particular about lighting, turn signals, and alike. I know that in most instance you must have separate turn and brake circuits for example. That's why I ask if yours has been updated or modified.
Donny 
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Gazza51
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10-23-09 09:03 AM - Post#1793035
In response to Donny
In the UK if the car is 1965 or older then Red turn signals are allowed at the rear.
My '65 Mustang was imported from Florida by me in August 2008 and uses original wiring and the park lights at the front are also the turn signal.
Am I confusing Park lights and Turn signals (UK / USA terminology)??
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Donny
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10-24-09 08:58 AM - Post#1793609
In response to Gazza51
Could be. Your parking lamps are like you running lamps in the back. It's the lower intensity filament in your 1157 bulb. The turn or brake filament is the higher intensity filament in the same bulb.
Donny
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Gazza51
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10-24-09 09:59 AM - Post#1793630
In response to Donny
Ok, we are talking the same thing, Parking Lights or sidelights as we would say in the UK.
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apache31
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10-29-09 11:43 AM - Post#1796254
In response to Gazza51
Everything working as you described it should. See American Autowire Forum for details on problem that started this post.
Thanks Donny.
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apache31
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05-07-24 01:59 PM - Post#2869637
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Is Don Bock still replying to forum posts on this site?
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