Bowtie61
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07-03-21 08:06 PM - Post#2822564
I have a 61 2 door Biscayne and need to set the door glass in the lower window channel. What is the best way to do this? The glass is sitting directly on the channel now. Thanks
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heidguy
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07-05-21 02:19 PM - Post#2822666
In response to Bowtie61
I bought some of the window setting tape from either Ecklers or Hubbards. It is essentially just a rubber gasket about 1" wide. There is no adhesive on it. I also bought new window channel to hold the glass of my 61 Impala 2 door sedan. I took the window, channel, and gasket to a restoration shop and had them install for me as I was afraid of breaking the glass. It is a tight fit and no glue was used.
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07-06-21 09:33 PM - Post#2822766
In response to heidguy
Maybe it's a little late, but don't clean the glass after you pull it out of the door. Reason being, there will be a dust or dirt outline around the exact position of the steel channel. Once you have the glass out and are confident you can tell how the channel is located on the glass, then you can take a magic marker and mark a line about 4 inches all the way up on either end of the steel channel. That way you can clean the lower 1" of the glass in prep for the setting tape, but still know exactly where the channel will go on.
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rrausch
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07-06-21 09:34 PM - Post#2822767
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Bowtie 61, do you have the correct thickness of setting tape?
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Bowtie61
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07-08-21 06:59 PM - Post#2822887
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No I don't. When I acquired the car the glass was glued into the lower channel, and poorly done. I would like to do it correctly. What is the correct thickness and size? Thanks
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07-08-21 09:08 PM - Post#2822893
In response to Bowtie61
you are not going to find it by sizes.
Its called glass setting tape
like this
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Bowtie61
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07-08-21 10:34 PM - Post#2822897
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Thank you. I'll order a roll. Appreciate it!
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rrausch
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07-09-21 07:21 AM - Post#2822906
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Tyically there are 3 thicknesses of the setting tape. The best way to do this is take the glass and channel to an old-line auto glass shop and ask them to sell you the correct thickness.
If you can't do that, and you have the 3 different thicknesses of tape, you'll have to put a piece of tape 90 degrees to the glass and trial fit the steel channel onto that small section of tape. You want a snug fit, but not a loose fit, nor a difficult fit.
Once you have the correct thickness, take a big city phone book, open it to the middle and place it onto a sturdy workbench. Take your glass and position it onto the phone book with the channel/tape side up. If you don't have a large leather hammer, take a thick wimmen's magazine, roll it into as tight a roll as you can, and tape it with duct tape. That will be your hammer. Do not use a steel hammer. Now lay the correct thickness of tape lengthways onto the glass, and put the steel channel on top of the thickness tape, in the same relative position as when you removed it. Now you should have the glass sitting on the open phone book (to cushion the edge), and the tape and channel should be positioned correctly. You can now take your leather hammer or rolled up magazine and WHACK WHACK WHACK WHACK the steel channel onto the glass.
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Bowtie61
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01-25-23 11:23 AM - Post#2853740
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Getting back to this now. I have removed the lower window channel. The width of the channel is 5/8" the width of glass is 1/4" which leaves 3/8" gap to fill with the setting tape. That seems like alot of space to fill using setting tape. Is this correct?
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01-25-23 11:59 AM - Post#2853741
In response to rrausch
Good instructions. Only thing left out was to spray the tape with WD40 or some other light oil to get the tape to swell and grip the glass once it is in the metal channel. Placement in the metal channel is also important to get the proper alignment of the door glass in the window regulator. I usually will mark both ends where the channel starts and ends on the glass on one side and then clean the other side. Then transfer the marks to the clean side and clean the side that you had previously marked. Also, try to set the metal channel evenly as you drive it down.
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Tony1963
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01-28-23 10:12 AM - Post#2853838
In response to Bowtie61
Back when I redid my cars, I sent those out to a glass shop who did what is described in this post.
The glass shop told me that the window in the channel is a friction fit with no adhesives used. The owner says that they used glass cleaner as a lubricant to put it all together as it would all evaporate afterwards and leave things tight.
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Andy J
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01-28-23 10:58 AM - Post#2853839
In response to Tony1963
I just had new door glass made for my '51 Pontiac and that is exactly what they did.There isn't any adhesive there,just a friction fit.
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55Brodie
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01-28-23 01:23 PM - Post#2853842
In response to Andy J
I replaced all the flat glass in my 55 Ford 2 door sedan and I used mineral spirits sprayed from a pump bottle on the setting tape. It worked a charm by providing lubrication as well as swelling the tape slightly for a rock solid fit. Of course both forearms looked like I had been in a knife fight when I was done.
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Bowtie61
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01-29-23 10:50 AM - Post#2853868
In response to 55Brodie
Sounds good. I will do as suggested. Thanks everyone
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