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Username Post: Cpp 500/600 on a 348 58 impala        (Topic#358664)
Meyer 
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Reg: 11-01-19
11-01-19 04:12 AM - Post#2779275    

They only offers a kit for a smallblock...
Has anyone done this ?



 


Jalapeno 
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Jalapeno
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11-01-19 06:28 AM - Post#2779287    
    In response to Meyer

Johnny, I replied to your PM.

A modern pump can be installed on an original 58 348 with the brackets for a 60-61 348. However, the block must be drilled and tapped for the bolts, and the balancer/pulleys must be changed. If you are unsure if your engine is original, check the stamping on the pad in front of the pass head.

Jalapeno


Edited by Jalapeno on 11-01-19 06:29 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
beagrizzly 
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beagrizzly
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Loc: south texas
Reg: 08-04-12
11-01-19 09:43 AM - Post#2779305    
    In response to Jalapeno

How about n electric pump off an Volvo? Several others there as well.
Ebay has them very reasonable. Pick a part?

Griff

if you're gonna be a bear..................

1960 Biscayne (the 6T)
2005 Yukon XL
2007 GMC Sierra Classic 8.1
2009 Silverado
2011 Escalade ESV


 
Hobart 
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Hobart
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11-02-19 05:19 PM - Post#2779403    
    In response to Meyer

On my 1958 Delray I have the CPP500 box (thanks to Jalapeno) and the engine is a 1959 348.I had to drill & tap the block, as mentioned; but it was easy. I used the Show Cars #6640 bracket kit. The clearance between the pump-pulley and the gearbox is super-close, but it works. I was able to use my stock (1959) balancer. I also have aftermarket A/C, which is why I have the extra crank pulley. The pulleys I used were: GM Crank pulleys: 6-3/4”, 2-groove #3744043BA; 1-groove #3751232. P/S pulley: 2 groove from LGC #3941107. W/P pulley: 2-groove chrome from LGC. I don't recall what P/S pump I used, but I think it was from a 1969 small-block Chevelle. The P/S belt I use is a #15350, which just squeezes on and limits the travel of the pump so it doesn't hit the box.


Bill

Chicago Gearheads Car Club / Lynch Mob Racing

'59 Bel Air 2dr sedan
'68 Chevy II Nova
'72 Eldorado ragtop
'80 Z28


Edited by Hobart on 11-02-19 05:25 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Meyer 
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Reg: 11-01-19
11-03-19 12:51 PM - Post#2779462    
    In response to Hobart

Thanks to all



 
ragtp66 
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Reg: 12-09-07
11-07-19 05:44 PM - Post#2779748    
    In response to Jalapeno

Jalapeno,
Do you have any experience with the Borgeson box?

I am considering doing this swap on a 61 Parkwood a buddy and I are building

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/brg-999015/?tab ...

Chris

Toys:
1958 Impala 2dr Hardtop Under Construction
1966 Chevelle Malibu Convert M20/350 Aztec Bronze
1987 Sea Ray Pachanga 22
2002 Cadillac Escalade EXT Parts chaser
2007 Trailblazer SS -gone and missed


 
Jalapeno 
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11-08-19 08:17 AM - Post#2779773    
    In response to ragtp66

I have not, Chris. Others here have, though, and hopefully will give y'all the lowdown.

Read the reviews in your link. 2 reviews, looks like both from the same guy.

Jalapeno


 
ragtp66 
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Reg: 12-09-07
11-12-19 06:48 PM - Post#2780076    
    In response to Jalapeno

I was hoping someone here would have been down the road. Borgeson claims that it goes in without needing to modify the radiator or the ps pump. Never know what the reviewers setup is so I take that with a grain of salt. I may still go that route as I have NEVER had an issue with Summit not taking something back and getting a full refund. The stock assist system is just not the greatest and i just wanted another option. Especially since the wagon is getting big wheels and bags.

Toys:
1958 Impala 2dr Hardtop Under Construction
1966 Chevelle Malibu Convert M20/350 Aztec Bronze
1987 Sea Ray Pachanga 22
2002 Cadillac Escalade EXT Parts chaser
2007 Trailblazer SS -gone and missed


 
Hobart 
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Hobart
Loc: Chicago, IL USA
Reg: 11-18-02
11-12-19 07:11 PM - Post#2780079    
    In response to ragtp66

Chris, try searching "Global West bump steer ", as I believe that system uses the Borgeson / Delphi 600 box; and I know I've seen posts about that system - maybe that will give you some leads. I have one for my `59, but I haven't installed it yet.

Bill

Chicago Gearheads Car Club / Lynch Mob Racing

'59 Bel Air 2dr sedan
'68 Chevy II Nova
'72 Eldorado ragtop
'80 Z28


 


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