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Username Post: Carb is too old        (Topic#357404)
Tanxane 
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07-28-19 01:14 AM - Post#2771773    

Hi, My car has been completly rebuilt (twice) but now, the carburetor seems to be too old. So I need to buy a new one. I've seen the Daytona UN2, do you have any advice ?
Thank you.

The story of my 54 Bel Air HT : Clic here


 


bobt 
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07-28-19 02:34 AM - Post#2771776    
    In response to Tanxane

I LOVE my Daytona carb although it was very hard to dial in. The instructions that came with the carb didn't work for me. I'm running a stock 1954 235 engine in my 1951 Fleetline. The Daytona carb is a just a Holly knockoff made in Argentina. Bobt



 
Tanxane 
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07-29-19 09:43 AM - Post#2771914    
    In response to bobt

Thank you very much, I think I'm going for it.

The story of my 54 Bel Air HT : Clic here


 
Dave in VA 
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07-29-19 12:52 PM - Post#2771923    
    In response to Tanxane

I bought a remanufactured carb on Ebay from Carburetor Exchange. Totally satisfied.

"Knowledge is Good" -- Emil Faber

U S Navy MM2 1970-75 USS Canisteo AO-99, USS Miller DE-1091 (The Champagne of Ships)

1950 Styleline Deluxe 2dr, mostly stock, driver quality...new to me 3/18
2016 Equinox LTZ
2017 Silverado LTZ 6.2


 
Airlifter 
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Airlifter
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07-29-19 02:53 PM - Post#2771936    
    In response to Dave in VA

I have a Daytona on my 261 at present. I was using the same carburetor on the 235 before I found a Carter. The Daytona performs well but the gas mileage I not good at all. The best I ever got was about 11 mpg. With the Carter I got around 15.

I know that gas mileage shouldn't matter but my car is a daily driver.

1951 styline deluxe sport coupe w/'60 261 engine & 54 powerglide


 
carbking 
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07-29-19 03:25 PM - Post#2771941    
    In response to Airlifter

Tanxane - I would respectfully disagree that your carb is too old; we sell rebuilding kits for carburetors in the 1920's, 1910's, and earlier every week.

Noted your location as France.

As I have no idea what might be available to you, I will make no recommendation; other than that if you lived in the USA I would suggest a Carter type YF.

Jon.

Good carburetion is fuelish hot air!

The most expensive carburetor you will ever buy.....is the incorrect one you attempt to modify!

If you truly believe "one size fits all", trying walking a mile in your spouse's shoes!


 
Tanxane 
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08-02-19 08:55 AM - Post#2772236    
    In response to carbking

Thank you for your advice.
I go quite often to California because my sister lives in San Diego.
I did rebuilt my carburetor in 2009 and it was working quite well after that. But in 2015 the car was completly flooded and it took me 2 more years to rebuild it for the second time.
But the water was dirty with acid and chlorine (pool house in the garage) and I think the carb didn't enjoy this treatment.

Are the carter hard to find ?

The story of my 54 Bel Air HT : Clic here


Edited by Tanxane on 08-02-19 08:55 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
carbking 
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08-03-19 04:44 PM - Post#2772337    
    In response to Tanxane

Carter suggested the use of YF 2101 for the 1954 passenger with 235.

They show up fairly often on Ebay. You might have one shipped to your sister right before you visit.

Jon.

Good carburetion is fuelish hot air!

The most expensive carburetor you will ever buy.....is the incorrect one you attempt to modify!

If you truly believe "one size fits all", trying walking a mile in your spouse's shoes!


 
Tanxane 
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08-05-19 08:03 AM - Post#2772447    
    In response to carbking

Thank you very much, I'm going to look for one of these carb.
I drove my car yesterday, it very nice when I'm driving slowly on the sea front (30kmh/20mph) but it's not progressive when I throttle just a little.
And if I push harder, sometime the engine stop like there is no more petrol in the carb.
(sorry for my english).

The story of my 54 Bel Air HT : Clic here


 
carolina chevrolet 
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08-05-19 11:06 AM - Post#2772457    
    In response to Tanxane

A new filter and possibly a float adjustment might be all that carb needs.



 
40grit 
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08-05-19 08:39 PM - Post#2772504    
    In response to carolina chevrolet

It sounds to me like the accelerator pump in the carb may be bad if it just does not want to accelerate without a bad hesitation. If that is the case it certainly is a simple repair.

John

Just Slightly Abrasive


 
Tanxane 
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08-10-19 03:46 AM - Post#2772866    
    In response to carolina chevrolet

@ Carolina : The carb has been cleaned and rebuilt recently, after it's been flooded, The air filter is brand new but I'm going to double check.

@40Grit : I'll check that again as well.

Thanks.

The story of my 54 Bel Air HT : Clic here


 
Mirango53 
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08-16-19 06:12 AM - Post#2773298    
    In response to Tanxane

Salut taxane, you changed the old carb finally? If you do it , what are you gonna do with that then ? You sell? And you have give another restoration a your car? In retromeca again? Do you have pictures or a vidéo of that?

Max- Bordeaux



 
Tanxane 
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08-17-19 02:11 AM - Post#2773357    
    In response to Mirango53

Hi Mirango,
No, For the moment the car is still running with the Rochester, I don't go anymore in Retromeca, After the flood, they did a bad work, I prefer doing it myself now.

The story of my 54 Bel Air HT : Clic here


 
Tanxane 
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08-29-19 11:58 PM - Post#2774454    
    In response to Tanxane

SO, Yesterday I drove 400 km (250 mi) and I had to stop twice on the road :
When I'm driving at constant speed, It's OK but if I need to accelerate, the carb seems to run out of fuel.
So, I think the problem is not the Rochester but the line.

I have the mechanical pump wich is in a very good shape, but before I have an electric pump with a timer for feeding the carb like a booster pump when I start the engine after a long stop.


The story of my 54 Bel Air HT : Clic here


Edited by Tanxane on 08-29-19 11:59 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Dave in VA 
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08-30-19 06:12 AM - Post#2774466    
    In response to Tanxane

Great video story on your car, but couldn't read the French. You basically rebuilt the car, so I'm surprised that you've got any problems.

The kiss on the cheek is so continental...

"Knowledge is Good" -- Emil Faber

U S Navy MM2 1970-75 USS Canisteo AO-99, USS Miller DE-1091 (The Champagne of Ships)

1950 Styleline Deluxe 2dr, mostly stock, driver quality...new to me 3/18
2016 Equinox LTZ
2017 Silverado LTZ 6.2


 
Tanxane 
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08-30-19 08:23 AM - Post#2774472    
    In response to Dave in VA

The car was rebuilt, as new but...
in 2015 the drama.

The car and 4 of my motorcycles were flooded in the underground garage during 72 hours.

Watch this :
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So, I had to rebuild it again but you know, this dust is so thin that I still find some everywhere.
I wanted to make some improvement like new shocks with springs, new audio, good noise insulation ...

The story of my 54 Bel Air HT : Clic here


Edited by Tanxane on 08-30-19 08:27 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Dave in VA 
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08-30-19 08:33 AM - Post#2774473    
    In response to Tanxane

Wow, I had no idea what you've gone thru.

"Knowledge is Good" -- Emil Faber

U S Navy MM2 1970-75 USS Canisteo AO-99, USS Miller DE-1091 (The Champagne of Ships)

1950 Styleline Deluxe 2dr, mostly stock, driver quality...new to me 3/18
2016 Equinox LTZ
2017 Silverado LTZ 6.2


 
2blu52 
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08-30-19 10:12 AM - Post#2774476    
    In response to Tanxane

  • Tanxane Said:
SO, Yesterday I drove 400 km (250 mi) and I had to stop twice on the road :
When I'm driving at constant speed, It's OK but if I need to accelerate, the carb seems to run out of fuel.
So, I think the problem is not the Rochester but the line.

I have the mechanical pump wich is in a very good shape, but before I have an electric pump with a timer for feeding the carb like a booster pump when I start the engine after a long stop.



You either have a vacuum leak or a float that is not set right.


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eplantage 
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08-30-19 12:03 PM - Post#2774494    
    In response to Tanxane

Wow, that's terrible. I can't imagine how you felt.

Age: 65 at the moment
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Tanxane 
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08-30-19 12:45 PM - Post#2774497    
    In response to 2blu52

Yes, I think about the float that could be a little low.

I'm going to check that.

Thank you.

I've found a Carter 2101s on ebay, I should recieve it around september the 25th.

During my last trip I did about 17,5 mpg but I was driving gently between 65 and 70 mi/h

The story of my 54 Bel Air HT : Clic here


Edited by Tanxane on 08-30-19 01:02 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Tanxane 
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09-14-19 03:45 AM - Post#2775491    
    In response to Tanxane

I recieved my carb, it was sold as "rebuilt" but maybe that was 300 years ago. So I need to check it before.

The story of my 54 Bel Air HT : Clic here


 
drew1987 
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09-14-19 05:48 PM - Post#2775523    
    In response to Tanxane

I just finally overcame major issues with my car stumbling badly coming off idle. It was the floats. A few people said to check your float. Have you had a chance?

Andrew D. Carapella (Drew)

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Edited by drew1987 on 09-14-19 05:49 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Tanxane 
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09-15-19 04:09 AM - Post#2775544    
    In response to drew1987

Hi Drew1987, not yet, I will do that before I switch the carbs, And then I will compare the mileage between the two carbs.

The story of my 54 Bel Air HT : Clic here


 
drew1987 
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09-15-19 11:35 AM - Post#2775573    
    In response to Tanxane

Yea that may reveal a lot. Also accelerator pump.

My hope for you is that they come out with a 1bbl bolt on fuel injection, like the 4bbl ones that have become popular, because it sounds like mileage matters. A quick glance and they don’t even appear to be different than a carb. A 1bbl one would be a blessing to guys running original 4 and 6 cyl or even flatheads with 1bbl

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Airlifter 
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09-15-19 07:00 PM - Post#2775609    
    In response to drew1987

I have ran a Rochester and Carter. Got much better performance and mileage with the Carter.

1951 styline deluxe sport coupe w/'60 261 engine & 54 powerglide


 
mahlmann 
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09-16-19 10:33 AM - Post#2775639    
    In response to Airlifter

That reminds me of the Carb Kings ABC's of good carburation:

Always Buy Carter!



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09-16-19 02:10 PM - Post#2775653    
    In response to Tanxane

Hi Tanxane.
Sorry to hear about the flooding.
I have all the photos from the first restoration of your 54, a huge inspiration for me since i have the same HT and the same paint combination as yours, the work you did on yours have helped me a lot.
Keep it up and good luck from Norvege:)

1939 Chevrolet Master Deluxe 85
1954 Chevrolet Bel Air Sport Coupe
1954 Chevrolet Bel Air Convertible


 
Tanxane 
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09-20-19 03:46 AM - Post#2775938    
    In response to chevyivar

Thanks guys.

@Chevyivar : If you need more pictures, I can send some.

The story of my 54 Bel Air HT : Clic here


 
Mirango53 
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09-21-19 12:57 AM - Post#2776027    
    In response to Tanxane

Salut taxane, that is terrible, 72 understands the water, i cant imagine, buy you make un other restoration, do you have pictures or vidéos ?
Ps i have un ht bel air 1953 and i have un sedán 2 doors 1954.



 


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