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1956chevy "3rd Year" Platinum Supporting Member Posts 316 ![]() |
01-24-21 06:07 PM - Post#2812850
I have a Moser Ford 9" rear end in my '56. I bought it and the disc brake setup from Classic Chevy International in 1999. I have always had problems with the emergency brake cables being pulled too tight. I remember exchanging the e-brake cable with CCI and still had same problem. I understand they weld the spring perches on so you have the correct pinion angle. That caused my disc brake brackets to mount the caliper at the 9 o'clock position. Every other install I have seen has the caliper at the 10-11 o'clock position, therefore providing some slack in the emergency brake cable. You can see how the e-brake cable is tightly stretched. The spring perches are square and sitting flat on the leaf springs. I always thought I had made a mistake when installing the caliper brackets. Today when I removed them I found that the rear end housing has quite an angle to it. The housing end is not even close to being parallel to the ground. If it was, the caliper would be in the correct position. So... does anyone have a Ford 9" with disc brakes? What is the position of your calipers? Do you have slack in your e-brake cables? Looking for an answer. Thanks. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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old66ss Member Posts 36 |
02-22-21 08:58 AM - Post#2814867
I rarely come here but I thought I would reply... surely you have your problem fixed by now. Your spring perches are not welded on correctly. Put the axle on jack stands. the snout should point down a couple degrees at least. That would bring your brake calipers around more toward the front some. Actually front and rear u joint angles should "compliment" each other to be correct. U joints need to rock and some to live.
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acardon Ultra Senior Member Posts 11462 |
02-22-21 10:57 AM - Post#2814875
You won't get an accurate pinion angle measurement with the suspension hanging down. You need the full weight on the suspension. The pinion should point up 4 degrees if the engine/transmission is at stock configeration. The level shows the angle in the correct direction but the axle housing needs to be supported by jack stands to measure the 4 degrees. I don't know if CCI sells the CPP rear brakes, but if those are Cadillac calipers, the E-brake is not adjusted correctly. CPP has a newer write-up, from their original, on how to adjust the Cadillac calipers and it's pretty critical and confusing.
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sz0k30 "12th Year" Gold Supporting Member Posts 523 ![]() |
02-22-21 12:11 PM - Post#2814885
Old66ss: “The snout should point down a couple degrees at least.” Acardon: “The pinion should point up 4 degrees if the engine/transmission is at stock configuration.” Seems at least one of you guys doesn't know what he's talking about. |
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acardon Ultra Senior Member Posts 11462 |
02-22-21 01:45 PM - Post#2814891
The pinion and engine/transmission angles should be parallel. On a original tri-5 the engine/transmission slopes down 4 degrees, which means the pinion should point up 4 degrees. Other vehicles may be different, but this is for a 56 chevy.
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Rick_L Member #409 Posts 27816 ![]() |
02-22-21 06:53 PM - Post#2814911
acardon is right. |
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1956chevy "3rd Year" Platinum Supporting Member Posts 316 ![]() |
02-23-21 09:39 AM - Post#2814940
Gentlemen, thank you for your replies. I have not fixed the issue yet, but have ordered parts. They just shipped from CPP yesterday. The pinion / driveshaft /engine geometry looks correct when it is setting on the ground. I have never measured it. I just assumed that Moser built the housing correctly. ???? Yes Acardon, the rear calipers are the Cadillac version. I have read the detailed CPP instructions for adjusting the e-brake. Since I needed to replace the pads, I just went ahead and ordered a whole new CPP rear disc kit with new brackets and upgraded rotors. I also will be changing the e-brake cable from the stock one to a universal one that CPP sells. Then I will not have to worry about it being too taught (At least that is what the CPP tech guy said. ????) I will post photos once it is done.
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