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Username Post: Installing hood springs, 1950 Chevy        (Topic#350589)
Loren S 
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04-11-18 05:54 PM - Post#2730745    

Is there a tool or technique to install the hood support springs on a 1950 Chevy? Please offer any input.

These are the "Good Ole Days:.


 

drtyler 
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04-11-18 06:49 PM - Post#2730753    
    In response to Loren S

Here is an old thread that you may find useful:

http://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/313264/

If you don't want to make one, National Chevy Assoc. sells hood removal tools as well.



 
RAM_51 
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RAM_51
Loc: Yakima, WA. USA
Reg: 12-28-02
04-11-18 06:53 PM - Post#2730755    
    In response to Loren S

Let's start at the beginning. What are you trying to do exactly? Install new springs or just take out and replace the ones you took out? Can you provide some background?

1951 Fleetline
'51 Fleetline DeLuxe 2 DOOR SEDAN (Fathom Green)
'51 Styleline Special BUSINESS COUPE (Shadow Gray)
'53 6500 Dump Bed (Oxidized Red)
'50 Styleline DeLuxe 4 DOOR SEDAN (Mist Green)


 
Sheldon Y. 
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04-12-18 04:56 AM - Post#2730773    
    In response to drtyler

Bob Hayden's Diagram and Photos are Great!
We levered the Springs off with a screwdriver, and that was deadly.

I'm putting my Hood back on next week, and will make a Tool.

Thinking Aluminum Tube Stock, flatten 1-end in the vice. I'll report how it works out next week.
If it works, and you are not handy, you can have the fabricated Tool when I'm done.

'49 Styleline Deluxe Build@

https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/49-sty...
http://www.frankenrodz.com/frankenstyle.html


 
Loren S 
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04-13-18 07:12 AM - Post#2730845    
    In response to RAM_51

Ram 51, Have removed old springs with screw driver...difficult job, but done. Having engine overhauled. Will need to reinstall springs in the near future. Cannot imagine doing it without some specialized tool or tools.

Also, hood does not stay fully up with current springs. Will new springs correct this? Where to buy?

The link above has some good info on making a tool. Are these available for purchase somewhere?

Thanks in advance.

These are the "Good Ole Days:.


 
tommy49 
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04-13-18 07:29 AM - Post#2730849    
    In response to Loren S

Get these and your hood will stay up.

https://www.fillingstation.com/detail/5442/Chevrol...

Tommy

49 Deluxe Sport Coupe, 55 235, 700r4, Blazer rear axle, 4 wheel power disc brakes.


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RAM_51 
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04-13-18 08:09 AM - Post#2730854    
    In response to Loren S

  • Loren S Said:
Also, hood does not stay fully up with current springs. Will new springs correct this? Where to buy?


Tommy has it correct, you will need the 23 coil springs as opposed to the 28 coil springs to make the hood stay open at a safe height. GM figured this out by 1961 as the 23 coils springs are specified in the parts book for 49-54 across the board. I will edit this post more later today to show how I stretch new springs for initial installation. Better yet, you can click on my 1951 Fleetline build [blue link below] and see it there.




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1951 Fleetline
'51 Fleetline DeLuxe 2 DOOR SEDAN (Fathom Green)
'51 Styleline Special BUSINESS COUPE (Shadow Gray)
'53 6500 Dump Bed (Oxidized Red)
'50 Styleline DeLuxe 4 DOOR SEDAN (Mist Green)


 
Rustchips 
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04-13-18 10:24 AM - Post#2730861    
    In response to Loren S

My floor jack would not go up high enough to stretch the spring out. I was working on a '49 with original 28 coil spring. I ended up stretching it out with the winch on my trailer.
I hooked the spring to the back of the trailer with a short chain, and the cable of the winch to the other end of the spring. Worked great. And the tool I made worked well.
Cleon

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Loren S 
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Loren S
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04-13-18 02:07 PM - Post#2730877    
    In response to Rustchips

Ram, ok I am up to speed. I need the heavier springs and can easily make the installation tool on the print provided in post above.

I would like to view your video, but your "1951 fleetline" link above does not work for me. How else can I find the video?

These are the "Good Ole Days:.


 
RAM_51 
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04-13-18 09:02 PM - Post#2730917    
    In response to Loren S

Hum...the link works okay for me. You can go to the build section and look for ALSO RAN - STILL RUNNING. By the way, there are only images there...no videos. See if going to the build section works.

1951 Fleetline
'51 Fleetline DeLuxe 2 DOOR SEDAN (Fathom Green)
'51 Styleline Special BUSINESS COUPE (Shadow Gray)
'53 6500 Dump Bed (Oxidized Red)
'50 Styleline DeLuxe 4 DOOR SEDAN (Mist Green)


 
Loren S 
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Loren S
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04-14-18 08:32 AM - Post#2730943    
    In response to RAM_51

Ram, 1952 fleetline link works when clicking below your post. Will not work if you click in the paragraph.

Thanks for all the info and great story about your 52 Fleetline.

I found the videos that drtyler posted, very informative. All above will make reinstalling my hood a simple project. Thank you very much.

These are the "Good Ole Days:.


 
RAM_51 
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04-14-18 08:37 AM - Post#2730945    
    In response to Loren S

  • Loren S Said:
Ram, 1952 fleetline link works when clicking below your post. Will not work if you click in the paragraph.


Yes, I just bolded and colored the wording in the paragraph...the bold and colored wording in the list below my name is the link to the build. Sorry for the confusion. I need to add more of what has transpired since I left off on it. Oh, byh the way, it is a 1951.


1951 Fleetline
'51 Fleetline DeLuxe 2 DOOR SEDAN (Fathom Green)
'51 Styleline Special BUSINESS COUPE (Shadow Gray)
'53 6500 Dump Bed (Oxidized Red)
'50 Styleline DeLuxe 4 DOOR SEDAN (Mist Green)


 
eplantage 
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04-14-18 10:21 AM - Post#2730956    
    In response to RAM_51

I have found that aligning the hood with the cowl and installing the hood springs is much easier with the fenders removed. There is better access to them. I have used some home made tools to keep the springs opened to install and also a heavy duty brake pliers works pretty good too. You need a little strength to pry them up though.

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1953 BelAir Convertible Project
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ragtp66 
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04-14-18 12:06 PM - Post#2730966    
    In response to Loren S

Super easy this way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuNe-GzUD60

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belairbob50 
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04-14-18 02:47 PM - Post#2730976    
    In response to ragtp66

When I installed the hood springs on my 1950, I used the flat washer trick. Attach the spring to a floor jack and stretch the spring open. Insert flat fender washers in the spring itself. I used masking tape to hold two washers together. Attach the "loaded" spring to the hood and cowl. After BOTH springs are attached, close the hood. Most of the washers will fall out and some will have to be removed by hand. Good Luck

https://image.ibb.co/ca1VU7/021.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/gcgVU7/022.jpg

https://image.ibb.co/mGRm2S/023.jpg





 
RAM_51 
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04-15-18 09:37 AM - Post#2731033    
    In response to Loren S

The washer trick makes good sense to me...anything that is quick, easy, cheat, and safe is good in my book. I constructed a pair of "surround type" spring extenders back in the 80s when I got into the the hobby in ernest. I didn't know about the washer technique at that time. This type below were the type that some of the supply houses were selling, but I had access to a MIG welder so decided to construct a set myself out of exhaust pipe and large flat washers. Of coursed these require a floor jack to install on a set of unstrechted springs whereas the "washer method" does not. In any regard, I was going thru an August 1954 issue of AUTOBODY and the RECONDTIONED CAR and found this ad. I guess you could file this under the "there is nothing new under the sun" heading.

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1951 Fleetline
'51 Fleetline DeLuxe 2 DOOR SEDAN (Fathom Green)
'51 Styleline Special BUSINESS COUPE (Shadow Gray)
'53 6500 Dump Bed (Oxidized Red)
'50 Styleline DeLuxe 4 DOOR SEDAN (Mist Green)


 
Bel Air kiwi 
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04-16-18 08:27 PM - Post#2731234    
    In response to RAM_51

Hi Loren, The other thing to look at is what shape the hinges are in. Sometimes you can get out off round pivots etc through wear and these add a lot of load.

Cheers Kiwi.

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