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Username Post: Check out what Steve65 and I did to his beloved Annie...        (Topic#349637)
BowtieGent 
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02-13-18 10:14 AM - Post#2724256    

We were a little busy this Sunday...

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Out with the old and CRUSTY...


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New and SHINY waiting to be installed.


Nitrous is like a hot girl with STD's…You know you wanna hit it, but you’re afraid of the consequences!
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1970 Chevelle Malibu: 53 on 753.
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02-13-18 11:18 AM - Post#2724263    
    In response to BowtieGent

Thanks for posting the pics Lorne, gotta admit I was a little nervous about the idea about tearing out the panels. But I believe your better judgement on how to proceed was the right call.
New and shiny beats old and crusty every day.

Steve Duncan
65 Impala SS Convertible
Ermine White/ Black Top
357 4 spd auto

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BowtieGent 
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02-13-18 11:49 AM - Post#2724265    
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Thanks Brother. I appreciate the compliment and the vote of confidence.

Nitrous is like a hot girl with STD's…You know you wanna hit it, but you’re afraid of the consequences!
1965 Biscayne 2 Door Post: 350,PG,373-posi,C3-DB, PS,PB.
1970 Chevelle Malibu: 53 on 753.
Brian Daniel McClure: 1970-2015. R.I.P. Brother.


 
66SS632 
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02-13-18 01:49 PM - Post#2724278    
    In response to BowtieGent

Shiny new parts!
Doing trunk floor also?

Still a 17 year old delinquent Hot Rodder


 
Oshawa65SS 
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02-13-18 11:36 PM - Post#2724330    
    In response to BowtieGent

Nice to see things underway.
Steve got the 3 piece trunk floor didn't he?

Ryan

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BowtieGent 
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02-14-18 09:02 AM - Post#2724355    
    In response to Oshawa65SS

Steve did not get a full trunk floor, but he did get the passenger side 1/3 of the floor, and associated braces to repair a large portion of rust that was on that side. That's the main reason why we ordered the tail panel and brace.

Like peeling an onion. Remove one layer to discover the underlying layers need attention too.

Nitrous is like a hot girl with STD's…You know you wanna hit it, but you’re afraid of the consequences!
1965 Biscayne 2 Door Post: 350,PG,373-posi,C3-DB, PS,PB.
1970 Chevelle Malibu: 53 on 753.
Brian Daniel McClure: 1970-2015. R.I.P. Brother.


 
bigbowtielover 
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02-15-18 10:19 AM - Post#2724478    
    In response to BowtieGent

Save the brace for the spare tire mount....the one under the car...if it's still intact. Looks like angle iron. Keeps the the floor flat when tightening the spare tire wing nut.



 
steve65 
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02-15-18 05:00 PM - Post#2724507    
    In response to bigbowtielover

That's what that is for then??? Thanks Rob, I was wondering what purpose that little piece of angle brace was for.
Hey....I have a boat load of body mounts in a bag and have no idea what goes where, can I come by one night and we could go through them?
I know you would know by sight which ones goes where.
Steve

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Ermine White/ Black Top
357 4 spd auto

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jktucker92 
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02-16-18 09:39 AM - Post#2724585    
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Did you buy new mounts? Beware that the body mounts might need modification to fit. There's several threads in the archives regarding the hole in the frame being too small for the new mounts. Most people widen the hole to fit the new mounts, but I chose to use a hole saw to cut the new mounts down a little bit. Most the archives I read stated that this was an issue with early '65 only. However, my '66 Impala SS Convertible had frame holes that were too small for the new bushings. The frame was stamped with a March 1966 date, so I know it's not an early '66 frame. My dad also bought the car new so I know it's as it was from the factory. The other thing I stumbled on is that the kit for the convertible contains the wrong number of mounts. There are two styles of mounts, one with a recess for the captured nut in the body and one without the recess. It should make sense when you look at it which ones need the recess and which ones don't. I took some pictures in my post from last spring what it looked like. http://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/showtopic.php?ti...




 
BowtieGent 
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02-16-18 09:53 AM - Post#2724588    
    In response to jktucker92

JT, Thanks for that input.
I think the smart thing to do [if and when] we encounter the capture nut relief issue, would be to just reuse the factory metal sleeves with the new bushings, unless there are size variables there too.

Nitrous is like a hot girl with STD's…You know you wanna hit it, but you’re afraid of the consequences!
1965 Biscayne 2 Door Post: 350,PG,373-posi,C3-DB, PS,PB.
1970 Chevelle Malibu: 53 on 753.
Brian Daniel McClure: 1970-2015. R.I.P. Brother.


 
jktucker92 
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02-16-18 03:05 PM - Post#2724619    
    In response to BowtieGent

It's the rubber portion that's the wrong outside diameter. While you could re-use the metal parts of the bushing, I didn't have any problem with those. Just make sure the rubber protrusion on the bottom of the bushing goes through the hole. For me, the biggest confusion was that I had 8 bushings of style 1, and 6 of style 2, but when I finally assembled it, I used 8 of style 2 and 6 of style 1. As I recall, the hardtop only has 10 bushings, not 14, and the wagon has 12.



 
100 CHEVY 
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02-18-18 08:32 AM - Post#2724745    
    In response to BowtieGent

I did the same thing to a 67 Impala I have.
That's a lot of spot welds to drill!
Good job!
Mike.

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BowtieGent 
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02-18-18 05:18 PM - Post#2724798    
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  • 100 CHEVY Said:
I did the same thing to a 67 Impala I have.
That's a lot of spot welds to drill!
Good job!
Mike.



Mike, Yes it is. Thanks for the compliment.
To make the removal process worse, was that the previous repair (well before Steve bought the car)was brass brazed along the entire length of the replacement tail panel where it meets the trunk floor, as well as a few hard to reach areas along the underside of the trunk brace.

The previous tail panel had no spot welds to affix it to the trunk floor, and required alot of grinding after the old tail panel was removed to knock down the brazing. The previous bodyman also never straightened any of the sheetmetal he brazed together, so I had some extensive tin bashing to do after the parts were removed.

Fun Fun.


Nitrous is like a hot girl with STD's…You know you wanna hit it, but you’re afraid of the consequences!
1965 Biscayne 2 Door Post: 350,PG,373-posi,C3-DB, PS,PB.
1970 Chevelle Malibu: 53 on 753.
Brian Daniel McClure: 1970-2015. R.I.P. Brother.


 
BowtieGent 
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02-18-18 05:21 PM - Post#2724799    
    In response to jktucker92

  • jktucker92 Said:
It's the rubber portion that's the wrong outside diameter. While you could re-use the metal parts of the bushing, I didn't have any problem with those. Just make sure the rubber protrusion on the bottom of the bushing goes through the hole. For me, the biggest confusion was that I had 8 bushings of style 1, and 6 of style 2, but when I finally assembled it, I used 8 of style 2 and 6 of style 1. As I recall, the hardtop only has 10 bushings, not 14, and the wagon has 12.



Steve has a box full of bushings we are going to play Trial and Error with on Tuesday.

We appreciate all the insite.


Nitrous is like a hot girl with STD's…You know you wanna hit it, but you’re afraid of the consequences!
1965 Biscayne 2 Door Post: 350,PG,373-posi,C3-DB, PS,PB.
1970 Chevelle Malibu: 53 on 753.
Brian Daniel McClure: 1970-2015. R.I.P. Brother.


 
100 CHEVY 
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02-19-18 08:26 AM - Post#2724852    
    In response to BowtieGent

It takes a LOT of time and effort to do this kind of repair.
And,I hate it when brass is used.You can not get it all off and then it's very hard to weld in that old brass covered spot!
I'd post pics of what I did to my 67,but my picture host has removed them.I don't pay ransoms!
Anyway,here's the old post(without pics!)
But you can read it.
http://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/showtopic.php?ti...
The pictures are here in album 2---
http://www.picturetrail.com/100chevy
Mike.

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http://www.picturetrail.com/100chevy


Edited by 100 CHEVY on 02-19-18 08:46 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
steve65 
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02-19-18 11:06 PM - Post#2724930    
    In response to jktucker92

Hi JT, do you know where I could find a diagram/picture of all the bushings and their placement?
Thanks,
Steve65

Steve Duncan
65 Impala SS Convertible
Ermine White/ Black Top
357 4 spd auto

www.picturetrail.com/steved65


 
BowtieGent 
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02-20-18 12:16 PM - Post#2724996    
    In response to 100 CHEVY

  • 100 CHEVY Said:
It takes a LOT of time and effort to do this kind of repair.
And,I hate it when brass is used.You can not get it all off and then it's very hard to weld in that old brass covered spot!
I'd post pics of what I did to my 67,but my picture host has removed them.I don't pay ransoms!
Anyway,here's the old post(without pics!)
But you can read it.
http://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/showtopic.php?ti...
The pictures are here in album 2---
http://www.picturetrail.com/100chevy
Mike.



Did you remove the trunk brace too?
It looks like you may have, but can't tell for sure.


Nitrous is like a hot girl with STD's…You know you wanna hit it, but you’re afraid of the consequences!
1965 Biscayne 2 Door Post: 350,PG,373-posi,C3-DB, PS,PB.
1970 Chevelle Malibu: 53 on 753.
Brian Daniel McClure: 1970-2015. R.I.P. Brother.


 
steve65 
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02-20-18 12:47 PM - Post#2724998    
    In response to jktucker92

Hey JT, after reading your post from ealier I did go and look in the sticky section and found exactly what i was looking for.
Thanks,
Steve65

Steve Duncan
65 Impala SS Convertible
Ermine White/ Black Top
357 4 spd auto

www.picturetrail.com/steved65


 
100 CHEVY 
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02-20-18 04:35 PM - Post#2725023    
    In response to BowtieGent

I didn't need to remove it as it was not rusted out at all,just the sheetmetal on top of it.I welded in new metal on top.
I still have a lot of metalwork to do on it.I'll get back on it sometime hopefully!
Mike.

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jktucker92 
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02-20-18 08:03 PM - Post#2725045    
    In response to 100 CHEVY

Looks like you found what you needed. Here's a sheet I found online in case you're still looking.



 
BowtieGent 
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02-21-18 11:43 AM - Post#2725110    
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  • 100 CHEVY Said:
I didn't need to remove it as it was not rusted out at all,just the sheetmetal on top of it.I welded in new metal on top.
I still have a lot of metalwork to do on it.I'll get back on it sometime hopefully!
Mike.



Keep plugging away at it. Slowly but surely, you'll get there.

Thanks Mike.


Nitrous is like a hot girl with STD's…You know you wanna hit it, but you’re afraid of the consequences!
1965 Biscayne 2 Door Post: 350,PG,373-posi,C3-DB, PS,PB.
1970 Chevelle Malibu: 53 on 753.
Brian Daniel McClure: 1970-2015. R.I.P. Brother.


 
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02-21-18 01:53 PM - Post#2725119    
    In response to BowtieGent

Looks good! I just replaced the Rocker panels a cab corner and a partial bedside on my 2001 silverado, Boy that first cut is the hardest. 1 piece at a time and soon it will look great!

If it ain't broke keep fixing it till it is! That's the Goverment way!


 
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02-28-18 10:44 AM - Post#2725987    
    In response to 427_4speed

Steve and I did some more metal removal this past Sunday.

We decided that we would replace the ps trunk drop-off after finding rot in a few places after removing some dirt and undercoating.

After removing it, we noticed it was also pretty banged up. Since we already had a Dynacorn replacement, we figured we'd just use it.

Here's where we are currently:

Nitrous is like a hot girl with STD's…You know you wanna hit it, but you’re afraid of the consequences!
1965 Biscayne 2 Door Post: 350,PG,373-posi,C3-DB, PS,PB.
1970 Chevelle Malibu: 53 on 753.
Brian Daniel McClure: 1970-2015. R.I.P. Brother.


 
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02-28-18 10:46 AM - Post#2725988    
    In response to BowtieGent

IMPORTANT TO NOTE:

There are some drastic differences in the design of the Dynacorn trunk drop-off compared to the OEM piece we removed.

I'll need to cannibalize the OEM piece we removed and graft the pieces to the aftermarket replacement before installing.

Nitrous is like a hot girl with STD's…You know you wanna hit it, but you’re afraid of the consequences!
1965 Biscayne 2 Door Post: 350,PG,373-posi,C3-DB, PS,PB.
1970 Chevelle Malibu: 53 on 753.
Brian Daniel McClure: 1970-2015. R.I.P. Brother.


 
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02-28-18 10:50 AM - Post#2725989    
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I mentioned that the aftermarket trunk drop-offs (Dynacorn) were poorly matched to the OEM piece that was removed.

Here is a photo of the first piece I had to graft onto the AM panel:

Nitrous is like a hot girl with STD's…You know you wanna hit it, but you’re afraid of the consequences!
1965 Biscayne 2 Door Post: 350,PG,373-posi,C3-DB, PS,PB.
1970 Chevelle Malibu: 53 on 753.
Brian Daniel McClure: 1970-2015. R.I.P. Brother.


 
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02-28-18 02:03 PM - Post#2726007    
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Began the grafting of the second piece today...

Nitrous is like a hot girl with STD's…You know you wanna hit it, but you’re afraid of the consequences!
1965 Biscayne 2 Door Post: 350,PG,373-posi,C3-DB, PS,PB.
1970 Chevelle Malibu: 53 on 753.
Brian Daniel McClure: 1970-2015. R.I.P. Brother.


 
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02-28-18 02:05 PM - Post#2726008    
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Filler strip will be added next once i'm sure it lines up to the top section of whats left of the OEM original.

Nitrous is like a hot girl with STD's…You know you wanna hit it, but you’re afraid of the consequences!
1965 Biscayne 2 Door Post: 350,PG,373-posi,C3-DB, PS,PB.
1970 Chevelle Malibu: 53 on 753.
Brian Daniel McClure: 1970-2015. R.I.P. Brother.


 
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03-01-18 02:57 AM - Post#2726074    
    In response to BowtieGent

That many mods tells me you have the wrong year part. I have a pair of those that are a near perfect match to the original part. Cosmetically they are close enough to use as is and will fit '65 and '66.




 
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03-01-18 10:10 AM - Post#2726113    
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  • bigbowtielover Said:
That many mods tells me you have the wrong year part. I have a pair of those that are a near perfect match to the original part. Cosmetically they are close enough to use as is and will fit '65 and '66.




The sticker on the part says '65-'66 Impala. If they were close enough to work, I wouldn't be making these mods and wasting both mine and Steve's time.
Fitment issues are nothing new. Aside from the contours being incorrect, the AM part was also too short to have worked. If Steve had received the wrong piece, he would have known immediately since he was sitting right beside me as we compared the 2.

If it IS the wrong part for '65-'66, the mistake was made on the sellers end (Classic Industries/Dynacorn) with whomever labelled it and stuck it with '65-'66 parts.

Here's the listing, WITH photo:

https://www.classicindustries.com/product/1965/che...


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Areas circled are where the discrepencies are/were. The Yellow line shows how and what the contour is SUPPOSED to be.


Nitrous is like a hot girl with STD's…You know you wanna hit it, but you’re afraid of the consequences!
1965 Biscayne 2 Door Post: 350,PG,373-posi,C3-DB, PS,PB.
1970 Chevelle Malibu: 53 on 753.
Brian Daniel McClure: 1970-2015. R.I.P. Brother.


 
BowtieGent 
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03-01-18 10:40 AM - Post#2726117    
    In response to bigbowtielover

  • bigbowtielover Said:
That many mods tells me you have the wrong year part. I have a pair of those that are a near perfect match to the original part. Cosmetically they are close enough to use as is and will fit '65 and '66.




In reviewing the website for other years of trunk drop-offs ('67-'70) for the Impala line, in case you are correct with your assumption the wrong part was ordered, AND to eliminate Steve of being responsible for ordering the wrong part for his model year, NONE are even listed or available for '67-'70!





Nitrous is like a hot girl with STD's…You know you wanna hit it, but you’re afraid of the consequences!
1965 Biscayne 2 Door Post: 350,PG,373-posi,C3-DB, PS,PB.
1970 Chevelle Malibu: 53 on 753.
Brian Daniel McClure: 1970-2015. R.I.P. Brother.


 
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