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Username Post: Interior paint colors        (Topic#349458)
junky 
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02-01-18 06:16 PM - Post#2723031    

Was there variations in the colors at the different assembly plants, or was their total standardization across all the manufacturing plants, when it came to paint?

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Verne_Frantz 
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02-01-18 07:25 PM - Post#2723038    
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The paint mixes were supposed to be the same at each plant. You're talking about interior colors, so you have to realize that Fisher Body painted the BARE metal dash. Chevrolet then painted all the dash pieces, including steering column, glove box door, instrument clusters, etc. There was an ongoing finger pointing between Chevy and Fisher about color match, but an original car will show differences in those dash items.

And don't forget that Chevrolet painted the front sheet metal, where Fisher painted the body from the firewall back.

Verne


I haven't seen a restored car YET that was restored "historically correct".

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junky 
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02-01-18 09:52 PM - Post#2723048    
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Thanks for your insight, and the picture. Who was responsible for lets say, painting the steering wheel? Was it the vendor of the steering wheel, or was it painted inside of the assembly plant? thanks

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02-02-18 07:12 AM - Post#2723063    
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The steering wheels arrived at the plants already painted, so that makes 3 different places where the paint was done for each car.

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64ss409 
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02-03-18 11:25 AM - Post#2723196    
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  • Verne_Frantz Said:
The paint mixes were supposed to be the same at each plant. You're talking about interior colors, so you have to realize that Fisher Body painted the BARE metal dash. Chevrolet then painted all the dash pieces, including steering column, glove box door, instrument clusters, etc. There was an ongoing finger pointing between Chevy and Fisher about color match, but an original car will show differences in those dash items.

And don't forget that Chevrolet painted the front sheet metal, where Fisher painted the body from the firewall back.

Verne


I haven't seen a restored car YET that was restored "historically correct".


That is an obvious difference on that glove box door. I don't see that on my 64 dash, Janesville car. It looks to be all the same color. Mine needs touch up where the ignition keys,house keys have rubbed a little paint off over the years from swinging back and forth.

1964 SS 409/340 4 spd, bought new Oct '63 from Ken Boggs Chevrolet, Geraldine, Montana


 
Verne_Frantz 
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02-03-18 12:30 PM - Post#2723204    
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Janesville must have done a better job in '64 than some of the other plants. The '64 flat dash color might have helped.

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02-03-18 01:25 PM - Post#2723207    
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Here is the reason that I asked the question. I purchased a restored steering wheel, and compared to my original, the restored one is a much brighter color. The seller has told me that he used the same can of paint that he has been using for previous restorations, and that no one in the past thought that the color was off. He is a good person, and said he will do whatever I would like to make sure that I am satisfied. Aside from the color, his work is beyond exceptional. I don't know if it is the clear coat that is causing it to be "off color" or that the paint is just "wrong". I have placed the restored wheel next to an original that I sourced a few years ago from another 1962, which was an exact match for my original wheel. The second picture is of the inside of the original wheel. In daylight, the two colors are different, and under artificial light, they appear the same. He sent me a picture of another wheel that he restored, and that wheel had the correct looking color, and that is why I went for the restored wheel. My only other though is that this last time, that he didn't mix the paint thoroughly enough.
If you have restored a steering wheel, what has been your results?






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Verne_Frantz 
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02-03-18 07:36 PM - Post#2723243    
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Which one is the restored wheel?

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junky 
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02-04-18 08:15 AM - Post#2723288    
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The one on the right. The one on the left is an original, and the bottom picture shows the inside of that original wheel, where the paint hasn't been exposed to the daylight of 56 years.

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msp177 
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02-04-18 11:12 AM - Post#2723308    
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The only place I've been able to get the Ditzler paint code colors is at TCP Global out west. They have the Ditzler codes and will mix it up for you.

I've compared the mixed stuff from TCP with original paint and it's a match, short of any fading. I also use a DeBeer matte clear from Valspar to knock down any glare. Although, what they mixed for me was a satin finish and the matte clear was used to give the paint protection with out glare.

Hope this helps!
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02-04-18 11:25 AM - Post#2723311    
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Here is a blue NOS 62 steering wheel. It looks to me like this NOS wheel matches the restored one for color.

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02-05-18 08:49 AM - Post#2723413    
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  • junky Said:
The one on the right. The one on the left is an original, and the bottom picture shows the inside of that original wheel, where the paint hasn't been exposed to the daylight of 56 years.



In that case, I'd say your wheel was restored correctly. Your original has just faded.

Verne



 
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