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Username Post: Wont start        (Topic#348952)
Jeffrey0180 
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01-01-18 05:12 AM - Post#2719621    

Hey everyone,

I replaced the gasket below my distributor and noe the engine wont start, i brought it to TDC first and marked the location where the rotor was pointing, reinstalled the vap, i did not remove the spark plug wires from the cap. Now she wont start. Where to start searching?



 
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bowtie44s 
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01-01-18 07:40 AM - Post#2719637    
    In response to Jeffrey0180

If this is a 96 or newer, disregard what I'm about to say. You need a scan tool.

Are you sure you were on TDC compression stroke? If the rotor is under the terminal with the wire going to #1 cylinder, it should start. If it's under #6 you're 180° out. Check the firing order. 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2.

Jeff

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Jeffrey0180 
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01-01-18 07:52 AM - Post#2719640    
    In response to bowtie44s

Does the pointy end need to be under spark plug wire #1 or the dull end?



 
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01-01-18 08:34 AM - Post#2719645    
    In response to Jeffrey0180

The metal end.

Jeff

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Jeffrey0180 
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01-01-18 08:42 AM - Post#2719648    
    In response to bowtie44s

Okay, then i installed it backwards lol, gonna pull it out again and get the engine to TDC and hope she fires up. I can re use the gasket right?



 
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01-01-18 08:51 AM - Post#2719651    
    In response to Jeffrey0180

Once you get it started, you’ll likely need to set the cam retard angle with a scan tool. There’s instructions on how to do that in the FAQ section in his forum.

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01-01-18 08:54 AM - Post#2719653    
    In response to CowboyTrukr

I must have missed it. I never did see what year it was.

Jeff

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01-01-18 09:25 AM - Post#2719660    
    In response to bowtie44s

Its a 94’ tbi



 
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01-01-18 09:27 AM - Post#2719661    
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I do not have the scan tool, will i be able to do it by hearing?



 
Chevytech 
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01-01-18 09:36 AM - Post#2719665    
    In response to Jeffrey0180

On a 1994 TBI the timing is set with a timing light. It is newer trucks that are set with a scan tool.

To set the timing you will need to unplug the set timing wire and on a 1994 it is in the cab by the computer.

Set timing wire photos:
http://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/showtopic.php?ti...

Set the timing to zero degrees BTDC if it is a small block.

For those of you that are wondering why you are not getting replies to your thread:

Did you give the model, year, engine, fuel system type, and transmission information?

If your vehicle has been altered from stock, let us know about that too.


 
Jeffrey0180 
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01-01-18 09:40 AM - Post#2719666    
    In response to Chevytech

Is this wire behind the glovebox? Or beneat the steering wheel?



 
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01-01-18 09:42 AM - Post#2719667    
    In response to Jeffrey0180

I just updated my last post to include a link with good photos by Richard.

Set timing wire photos:
http://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/showtopic.php?ti...



For those of you that are wondering why you are not getting replies to your thread:

Did you give the model, year, engine, fuel system type, and transmission information?

If your vehicle has been altered from stock, let us know about that too.


 
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01-01-18 10:10 AM - Post#2719674    
    In response to Chevytech

Aha i see, why exactly do i need to pull this wire?



 
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01-01-18 10:45 AM - Post#2719679    
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You need to unplug that once it is running to set it exact. You need to get it running first. Roll the crank to TDC compression stroke and get the rotor as close as you can to under the #1 plug wire. You will have to mark something pointing to where the rotor is besides the distributor body and rotate the distributor to where it lines up. That should get you close enough to start, then you need to do what chevytech said.

Jeff

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01-01-18 11:21 AM - Post#2719684    
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So for finding tdc on the compression stroke, whilst holding my finger on the spark plug hole it should start pushing my finger off right? And then keep vranking till the timing mark on the wheel lines up with the toothed indicator?



 
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01-01-18 11:50 AM - Post#2719687    
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Yep. Use a ratchet or breaker bar. The starter will go way too fast. You may need someone to put their finger over the hole and watch the mark. The easiest way I have found to get a ratchet on the crank is take the skid plate off, lay on the ground, and go up through from the bottom. I think a small block is a 5/8 socket and big block is 3/4. Make sure you can read the numbers on the pointer. 0 isn't exactly in the middle.

Jeff

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01-01-18 11:59 AM - Post#2719689    
    In response to bowtie44s

Had my threads crossed. Sorry, guys. Totally wrong on my part.

Greg

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Jeffrey0180 
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01-05-18 12:14 AM - Post#2720064    
    In response to CowboyTrukr

I forgot 1 detail, she runs on propane gas (LPG). Will she start at 0* BTDC?



 
Jeffrey0180 
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01-06-18 07:06 AM - Post#2720200    
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Ok i got to TDC on 1# and lined the spark plug wire up with the rotor, she still wont fire?



 
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01-06-18 07:20 AM - Post#2720203    
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  • Jeffrey0180 Said:
Ok i got to TDC on 1# and lined the spark plug wire up with the rotor, she still wont fire?


TDC of the compression stroke, or TDC of the exhaust stroke?

For those of you that are wondering why you are not getting replies to your thread:

Did you give the model, year, engine, fuel system type, and transmission information?

If your vehicle has been altered from stock, let us know about that too.


 
Jeffrey0180 
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01-06-18 09:30 AM - Post#2720215    
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Compression stroke




 
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01-06-18 01:00 PM - Post#2720230    
    In response to Jeffrey0180

Check the terminals in the wiring connectors you unplugged and see if they need to be tighten up to make good contact.

For those of you that are wondering why you are not getting replies to your thread:

Did you give the model, year, engine, fuel system type, and transmission information?

If your vehicle has been altered from stock, let us know about that too.


 
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01-06-18 08:47 PM - Post#2720291    
    In response to Chevytech

You have the spark plugs wired on the cap 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2 in the clockwise direction yes? If yes, do you have spark?




Edited by rain_man_rich on 01-06-18 08:48 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Jeffrey0180 
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01-07-18 03:39 AM - Post#2720303    
    In response to rain_man_rich

Just checked, got no spark. Could this be the ignition module or ignition coil?



 
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