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Username Post: 1965 Bel Air - Quick Seat question        (Topic#348503)
Maleficarum 
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12-01-17 01:16 PM - Post#2716559    

Hey folks, to save time I'll just put my question first: Will the seats from a '64 four-door impala bolt into my '65 Bel Air, or will there be modification necessary? I'm not scared of welding or modifying to make stuff fit, but prefer not to have to if I can get away with it.
I've done some searching, both Google-fu and on the forums here before posting, and the topics and documentation I've found on parts interchangability have thus far been less than clear (to my eyes, at least...)

My first Chevy (the '65) currently has some questionable impala bucket seats in front that appear to be bolted down with no rails, and a rear bench from a pontiac grand prix hanging out in the back. Both were installed by one of two or three previous owners.

I would like to install a bench seat up front and install a better fitting bench in the rear, and I have a line on a very clean set from a '64 Impala four door and I'd be ecstatic if I could just bolt them up and go.



Edited by Maleficarum on 12-01-17 01:17 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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100 CHEVY 
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12-01-17 02:12 PM - Post#2716562    
    In response to Maleficarum

Welcome to CT!
I have both cars.
You'll have to modify the feet on the 64 front seat to fit the 65 floor.
If you were near me,I'd give you some seats!64 or 65.
Mike.

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sz0k30 
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12-01-17 02:13 PM - Post#2716563    
    In response to Maleficarum

I don't know, but since there was a very big change in the frame from 64 (X frame) to 65 (perimeter frame) I would be very surprised if the front seat would be just a simple bolt in.



 
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12-01-17 05:32 PM - Post#2716583    
    In response to sz0k30

Is the 65 Bel Air a 2 or 4 door? Remember, a 4-door front seat will not fold forward. Try to find a 65-70 Impala 2-door bench seat. I'm fairly certain it will a direct bolt-in.

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Edited by BigDogSS on 12-01-17 05:33 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Maleficarum 
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12-01-17 06:18 PM - Post#2716586    
    In response to BigDogSS

Sorry if i spaced mentioning it, my Bel Air is a four door. I'm learning as I go here.

Side note, I checked a bit closer, and the seats I have DO in fact have rails, but they definitely are not from this car originally, and need some spacers to keep the backs of the seats up. I'll add pictures tomorrow when I have some light to see if I can ID them.



 
Maleficarum 
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12-01-17 06:33 PM - Post#2716589    
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Also Mike, thanks for the offer, If I were closer I'd drive it over and talk shop! You have any pictures? I might not be opposed to shipping if it's not obscenely expensive.



 
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12-01-17 09:59 PM - Post#2716611    
    In response to Maleficarum

I'm on the beach in southeast Mississippi @ the Alabama border.
I have a 65 Buick seat for a 4 door.It is exactly the same seat as a 65 Chevy,except it has a fold down armrest in the center.Same floor mount slides.
I bought it for $18.00 at the U-Pull-It yard for the power seat parts for my 65.
Shipping would be a lot!
Mike.

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Rick Dorion 
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12-02-17 04:34 AM - Post#2716622    
    In response to 100 CHEVY

I've shipped seats, although not a bench, using Greyhound. Worked well.

1967 Belair - perfect floor, frame and pinchwelds. Oh boy.


 
Maleficarum 
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12-03-17 03:43 PM - Post#2716765    
    In response to 100 CHEVY

Second question,though now my priorities have been re-evaluated due to rust under the rear windshield. What about the rear seats? will a '64 4-door rear set fit into the '65 4-door?

Also on an off-topic note is it acceptable to repair the rear window channel rot using bondo in certain circumstances? Everywhere I've read says proper doctrine is to cut out the rust and weld in new metal, but I guess the lazy in me was looking for someone to tell me the easy way out is okay.

I got in there earlier this morning and decided the rust was way too bad to do a hack job on it, but I'm still curious as to whether or not a bondo job is okay if you're careful to eradicate the rust first, assuming you catch the issue early enough.To be clear I'm a decent welder and I plan on going the new-metal route as much as I possibly can with the equipment I have available. I'd just like to know the details of the options available.



Edited by Maleficarum on 12-03-17 03:45 PM. Reason for edit: spelling

 
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12-04-17 08:33 AM - Post#2716829    
    In response to Maleficarum

I don't know about the rear seat.Maybe?
On the rear glass rust---It's a common problem on all GM cars from the mid 60's up.
Most will say cut it out and weld in new metal.That's the best way to do it!
As far back as the late 60's,my dad and I repaired many,many cars(even fords!).Then,all we did was cut it out and braze in new pieces of metal.Sometimes we used pop-rivets.Then used body filler to smooth it out.Prime,then paint.
If you put filler on top of the rust,it won't last very long and your labor will be for nothing.It's up to you how you want to do it.
Part of the love for old cars is admiring your skill in doing the repairs yourself (or redoing it)as you learn!
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12-04-17 09:33 AM - Post#2716838    
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Do it once and do it right!! Once you get in there and remove the rust, you'll see there will be nowhere to place the bondo. No, bondo is NOT an acceptable way to fix the window channel. Cut the rust out and fab-up a new piece. The only way to go.

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Maleficarum 
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12-04-17 10:18 AM - Post#2716841    
    In response to BigDogSS

Like I mentioned earlier, the rust is pretty extensive in the corners of the lower channel and I plan on welding in new metal to the best of my ability (may end up needing more later but that's life with these cars it seems).

It appears one of the previous owners thought that some clear silicone around the inside edge of the trim pieces would be enough to fix a leak but it only helped to seal in any water that got in there in the first place. I also learned yesterday that I have to do some repairs to the front floor pans, though those are far more superficial than the rot in the window channel, so I'll likely practice the sheet metal joints there first.

Just to double check, once I remove all the rust from the rotted spots, it is still acceptable to use bondo/filler to level everything out in the window channel where the rot wasn't all the way through the metal, or am I better served leaving that particular part of the body rough but cleared of rust and sealed with paint/primer, letting the urethane fill in the gaps there when I reinstall the window?



 
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