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Username Post: Automotive saying’s that bug ya.        (Topic#348208)
2D51STYDLX 
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11-14-17 03:54 PM - Post#2714378    

I always remember “ ft lbs of torque “
Not “ lbs of ft torque “
“ 350 small block “
Do they make a 350 big block ?

Roger
1951 2 door Deluxe Bone stock, well not quite, bucket seats.
Broken hearts and dirty windows
Make life difficult to see
Thats why last night and this morning
Always look the same to me
John Prine



 

Bel Air kiwi 
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11-14-17 04:57 PM - Post#2714384    
    In response to 2D51STYDLX

Hi Roger, I am kind of with you on torque but my understating of torque is it is force /distance.
However in the imperial units the force was a constant and the distance was changed so the convention became.
Foot Lbs, and Inch Lbs.

I think you are Weeing in the wind trying to change the SBC nomenclature. What do you do when there is a 400 SBC and 396 BBC?
I also don't think this is OE nomenclature.

Cheers Kiwi

48 3100 RHD, 51 Deluxe 4DR RHD, 51 Bel Air parts car, 52 Bel Air P-Glide LHD. Others 23T, 32 Tudor, 58 Edsel pacer 4DR HDT, 79 F250 351C RHD. 69,70,82 Capri. No mobile, no TV, and no Jap cars.

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rrausch 
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11-14-17 06:03 PM - Post#2714399    
    In response to Bel Air kiwi

Bubbletops. Chevy never sold a single model called that.

1953 210 Convertible, 261 with dual Carter YF 966S carbs, P.S., Remote Bendix P.B. Booster... shade-tree restoration about done.




 
50sChevys 
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11-14-17 06:54 PM - Post#2714410    
    In response to 2D51STYDLX


“I used to have one just like it”.....

50s Chevys


 
4dr 57 
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11-14-17 07:02 PM - Post#2714412    
    In response to 50sChevys

  • 50sChevys Said:

“I used to have one just like it”.....




...except mine was..."

It's all good. mostly




 
raycow 
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11-14-17 10:42 PM - Post#2714437    
    In response to 2D51STYDLX

Mine is more of a nomenclature squawk: People who say axle when they mean shaft and carrier when they mean differential case. I never openly chastise them (that might start a war), but I always make sure to use the correct term whenever I respond to any of their posts.

Ray

Those who choose an automatic transmission want transportation. Those who choose a manual transmission want to drive.


 
VANDENPLAS 
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11-15-17 02:54 AM - Post#2714441    
    In response to raycow

Tail stock ..... no it's an extension housing

And the one that gets me "ISSAT ONE A DEM DAR RAT RODS ??"

" The chain in those handcuffs is made of high tensile steel. It will take you ten minutes to hack through it with this, if your lucky. You can hack through your ankle in fivei



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eplantage 
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11-15-17 05:09 AM - Post#2714447    
    In response to VANDENPLAS

"tranny"
fastback for Fleetlines
panel truck for sedan deliveries

Age: 63 at the moment
1950 Chevrolet Sedan Delivery
1953 BelAir Convertible Project
2002 Heritage Springer FLSTSI
1930 Model A Standard Coupe


Edited by eplantage on 11-15-17 05:10 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
RAM_51 
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11-15-17 05:29 AM - Post#2714448    
    In response to rrausch

  • rrausch Said:
Bubbletops. Chevy never sold a single model called that.



Along those same lines..."Styleliner", "Fleetliner", "Businessman's Coupe"....


1951 Fleetline
'51 Fleetline DeLuxe 2 DOOR SEDAN (Fathom Green)
'51 Styleline Special BUSINESS COUPE (Shadow Gray)
'53 6500 Dump Bed (Oxidized Red)
'50 Styleline DeLuxe 4 DOOR SEDAN (Mist Green)


 
rrausch 
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11-15-17 07:05 AM - Post#2714457    
    In response to 4dr 57

  • 4dr 57 Said:
  • 50sChevys Said:

“I used to have one just like it”.....


...except mine was..."



I heard that twice a month for the nine years this was my daily driver. The worst was, "....except mine was a Ford."

The other question I could count on getting at least once a week, What year is that?\

It's actually a '55 first series, but I got so many people telling me it couldn't POSSIBLY be a '55 because their uncle grand-dad poppa aunt-Hilda had a '55 that I just started telling people it was a '54.





1953 210 Convertible, 261 with dual Carter YF 966S carbs, P.S., Remote Bendix P.B. Booster... shade-tree restoration about done.




 
DZAUTO 
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11-15-17 07:52 AM - Post#2714468    
    In response to rrausch

Don't do that! Don't EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER back down from telling someone your truck is a 1st series 55!!!!!!!!! These NON-knowledgable know-it-alls need to either be educated or humbled in front of their buddies, so that they will stop spreading incorrect information.
In my book, 1st series 55 trucks are about as rare as chicken lips.
My cousin has one that he/we have been working on for about 2yrs and it is very close to completion. About all that is left is the interior.

The original 235 was replaced with a built, bored/stroked 261 to become 283.
We replaced the original 3.90 rear with an axle housing from a 64 pass car so that a 3.08 posi could be installed. We cut off the spring, trailing arm and shock brackets and welded on pads for the leaf springs.
The carb is an Edlebrock 4bl.

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rrausch 
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11-15-17 08:14 AM - Post#2714469    
    In response to DZAUTO

Chicken lips! Hahaha... haven't heard that in a long time.
Nice truck. How did you stroke a 261?

1953 210 Convertible, 261 with dual Carter YF 966S carbs, P.S., Remote Bendix P.B. Booster... shade-tree restoration about done.




 
DZAUTO 
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11-15-17 08:16 AM - Post#2714470    
    In response to DZAUTO

This is the "modified" 64 pass car rearend installed. It was really a simple, straight forward swap because 1st series pickups already had an open drive line.
The transmission is a Saginaw 4sp, which is the same length as the original 3sp.

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DZAUTO 
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11-15-17 08:20 AM - Post#2714471    
    In response to rrausch

  • rrausch Said:
Chicken lips! Hahaha... haven't heard that in a long time.
Nice truck. How did you stroke a 261?



Bored .060 and a crank had the rod journals welded and turned to get the stroke --------------------- this baby has got some torque!!!
And with the real low 1st gear in the Saginaw, it works great with the 3.08 rear and is really nice on the Interstate.



 
DZAUTO 
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11-15-17 08:34 AM - Post#2714475    
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Notice the drain plug in the bottom of the axle housing. The 62-64 cars DID NOT get a drain plug. So we installed one, the same as was in 57-61 axle housings. And to add more threads inside the housing for a more secure retention of the drain plug, we welded a nut to the inside.



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Signal 5 
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11-15-17 10:27 AM - Post#2714490    
    In response to DZAUTO

“All original”...when they’re clearly not.
“Three on the tree”...just personal I know, but really hate the phrase. My car doesn’t have a tree with three of anything on it.


Jim

'52 Deluxe Convertible
'93 Mazda sequential twin-turbo RX7 R1 (autocross)


 
2D51STYDLX 
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11-15-17 10:46 AM - Post#2714493    
    In response to raycow

Ray please educate me the difference between axle and shaft.

Roger
1951 2 door Deluxe Bone stock, well not quite, bucket seats.
Broken hearts and dirty windows
Make life difficult to see
Thats why last night and this morning
Always look the same to me
John Prine



 
raycow 
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11-15-17 11:32 AM - Post#2714499    
    In response to 2D51STYDLX

  • 2D51STYDLX Said:
Ray please educate me the difference between axle and shaft.


Glad to oblige, and thank you for asking.

The "shaft" (also called axle shaft) is a long skinny part with splines on one end and (usually) a flange on the other end which the brake drum and wheel bolt onto. The "axle" is an assembly which comprises the housing and all of its internal parts, including the differential and the shafts.

Ray

Those who choose an automatic transmission want transportation. Those who choose a manual transmission want to drive.


 
2D51STYDLX 
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11-15-17 11:41 AM - Post#2714501    
    In response to raycow

Thanks Ray I did not know that !!!

Roger
1951 2 door Deluxe Bone stock, well not quite, bucket seats.
Broken hearts and dirty windows
Make life difficult to see
Thats why last night and this morning
Always look the same to me
John Prine



 
DanD1950 
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11-15-17 12:03 PM - Post#2714503    
    In response to 2D51STYDLX

This isn't a car or a car part term; but it really pisses me off.
Grease Monkey!!!!, makes me see red.
I refused to repair an idiots car, after he call me that. He did not understand why I was so pissed; to throw him out of my shop.
Here (Canada) we have a 5 year apprenticeship to go through; along with 4, 8 week terms at collage that you must graduate from. Then you can scheduled a seat for the next time the ministry of labour is holding a testing session. You must obtain better then 70% for a provincial license. Above 80% you receive an inter-provincial license; that allows you to legally work as a mechanic, throughout Canada.
So yea I take offence when a disrespectful "A" hole calls me a greasy monkey.

Rant over. LOL

Dan.

50 Styleline Deluxe, 2 Door Sedan, Was a 216cu", Three Speed Manual. She now has a 4.8Lt V8 LR4 injected engine, 4L60E 4 speed automatic, 10 bolt diff 342 gear with an Eaton C80 Locker



 
DZAUTO 
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11-15-17 12:23 PM - Post#2714504    
    In response to DanD1950

FREQUENTLY, when people are asking, inquiring, discussing transmissions, as an example, a Muncie 4sp, the discussion often comes around to the back end of the transmission. The person(s) often refer to the numbers, casting dates, shifter mounting holes, etc, on the TAIL SHAFT. And I usually jump in harshly and inform them that there are NOT any numbers, dates, etc on the tail shaft. But that there are numbers, dates, etc. on the TAIL HOUSING (which is actually an extension housing, but tail housing is more common).
Then I post a picture of a tail shaft and a picture of a tail housing.
I build a lot of Muncies and I frequently see this misnomer in the forums.



 
Lead sled 58
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11-15-17 12:56 PM - Post#2714509    
    In response to DZAUTO

How bout calling it a"motor" when refering to an engine?

Late yr model (Dec. 51 BelAir/ 52 trim), with a basically stock 67 Camaro SS350/295hp Turbo Fire Edelbrock 1405, Saginaw 4spd/355 geared 55/6 Chevy rear.2,1st place,and 1 top five award trophies so far
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DanD1950 
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11-15-17 01:01 PM - Post#2714510    
    In response to Lead sled

  • Lead sled Said:
How bout calling it a"motor" when refering to an engine?



Yup.

A motor is what cranks an engine during starting.

Dan.


50 Styleline Deluxe, 2 Door Sedan, Was a 216cu", Three Speed Manual. She now has a 4.8Lt V8 LR4 injected engine, 4L60E 4 speed automatic, 10 bolt diff 342 gear with an Eaton C80 Locker



 
DZAUTO 
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11-15-17 01:09 PM - Post#2714511    
    In response to Lead sled

  • Lead sled Said:
How bout calling it a"motor" when refering to an engine?



That is one particular term which is VERY difficult to deal with. The entire world now uses those terms (motor-engine) interchangeably. Plus, I would NEVER, NEVER be the person to correct someone like Jr Johnson. In his world, the machinery that make a race car go is a MOTOR. YOU tell him, I won't!!!!



 
56sedandelivery 
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11-15-17 01:17 PM - Post#2714512    
    In response to DanD1950

What about the Ford Motor Company or General Motors??? Technically, motors are electrically "powered" machines, while engines use some type of fuel (gas, diesel, steam, hydrogen, etc). My younger brother uses the term "turnstock" to refer to the extension housing/output shaft of a transmission. Where he came up with that one, I have no idea. He also says, "butcept", instead of "except". And I can't SMACK him for it, even though that's the inclination; he had an eye injury when he was 8 years old, and fights with very high ocular pressure of his affected eye (he was shot in the eye with a BB gun by a "friend"-had two eye surgeries). What do you guys refer to a "third member" as? 3rd member, hogs head, chunk, or something else? I've always used 3rd member, but I have no idea why. And it's a DISTRIBUTOR, not a DIZZY; dizzy is vertigo. Camshaft; bumpstick??? What the heck? Tranny? Not Bruce Jenner; a transmission. I'm sure there are others, but they escape me at the moment.
I am Butch/56sedandelivery.





 
raycow 
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11-15-17 03:45 PM - Post#2714527    
    In response to 56sedandelivery

  • 56sedandelivery Said:
.....What do you guys refer to a "third member" as? 3rd member, hogs head, chunk, or something else? I've always used 3rd member, but I have no idea why.....


The official term is differential carrier (which is NOT the same as a differential case). You can check this in GM parts groups 5.504, 5.505 and 5.510. I always say center section, but I am fine with any of the slang terms for it. You could also add pumpkin to your list, and I believe there may be a couple more I can't think of right now.

Interestingly enough, "third member" appears in published technical literature going back quite a long way, so I wouldn't consider it to be slang. My high school shop instructor used the term in class, but he was pretty old even then, probably born before the turn of the century. Needless to say, I certainly do wonder where or how it originated. It also raises the question of what the other two members might be.

Ray


Those who choose an automatic transmission want transportation. Those who choose a manual transmission want to drive.


 
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11-15-17 03:58 PM - Post#2714529    
    In response to 2D51STYDLX

"Chevelle"



 
50sChevys 
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11-15-17 06:34 PM - Post#2714561    
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“I’m gonna restore it one of these days myself.” And another one, “It’s not for sale, we’re saving it for the grandkids.”

50s Chevys


 
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11-15-17 06:40 PM - Post#2714562    
    In response to 50sChevys

  • 50sChevys Said:
.....“It’s not for sale, we’re saving it for the grandkids.”


That's very thoughtful of you. How did you find out that your grandkids were wanting a pile of rust?

Ray

Those who choose an automatic transmission want transportation. Those who choose a manual transmission want to drive.


 
56sedandelivery 
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11-15-17 07:07 PM - Post#2714564    
    In response to raycow

  • raycow Said:
  • 56sedandelivery Said:
.....What do you guys refer to a "third member" as? 3rd member, hogs head, chunk, or something else? I've always used 3rd member, but I have no idea why.....


The official term is differential carrier (which is NOT the same as a differential case). You can check this in GM parts groups 5.504, 5.505 and 5.510. I always say center section, but I am fine with any of the slang terms for it. You could also add pumpkin to your list, and I believe there may be a couple more I can't think of right now.

Interestingly enough, "third member" appears in published technical literature going back quite a long way, so I wouldn't consider it to be slang. My high school shop instructor used the term in class, but he was pretty old even then, probably born before the turn of the century. Needless to say, I certainly do wonder where or how it originated. It also raises the question of what the other two members might be.

Ray



In the scheme of things, I'd think the engine would be the 1rst member, the transmission the 2nd member, and the "center section" the 3rd member. But who knows for sure?
I was trying to think of other "slang" for 3rd member, and don't know why I did't list pumpkin.

Another: manual transmissions referred to as gearbox, and automatics as slush box.

The kit's not for sale, I'm going to restore it. I used to work with an E.R. Physician that had an older, beat up, Datsun truck with a canopy. He was always having people ask him if it was for sale (???). So, his wife, an Internal Medicine Physician, had a couple of signs made up, and placed them in the canopy windows, "NOT FOR SALE". As a joke, the E.R. Doc would carry a tire pressure gauge in his smocks pocket, "to check your pressure". He got a kick out of it for some reason. He was probably the most dedicated and thorough E.R. Doc I ever worked with.

I am Butch/56sedandelivery.




Edited by 56sedandelivery on 11-15-17 07:12 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 

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