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Username Post: PRNDL light wiring        (Topic#347123)
Gilly 
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09-13-17 02:33 PM - Post#2707586    

Installing a AAW Classic Update series in my brothers car, 1966 Impala Conv, 396 TH400, bench seat car (factory AC as well).

Just started today, the fusebox is in after opening the hole up and changing screw locations. Figured out you don't use the wiring strips under the seat for the rear anymore, although we need to reuse the top motor wiring and harness. They will sell you that extra harness if you want it but expensive for what you get.

Anyways, what we seem to be missing is the light socket for the shift quadrant. They show a grey wire which they seem to say is for this location in 1965-66, but coming off the turn signal harness? There was no grey wire in the original harness, but there seems to be a socket on the original, or a pair actually, one for the shift quadrant window and one for the ignition switch, they both seem to be heading towards the fuse box, but again they aren't on the new AAW harness. They possibly could be part of the new dash harness instead of the main harness. Anyone here ever install a classic update on a 65 or 6?

Also there is no place for the socket on the new ignition switch they give you so thinking on reusing the old one or see if we can find a new one with the cup for the light socket.

Gilly



Edited by Gilly on 09-13-17 02:35 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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09-13-17 03:54 PM - Post#2707596    
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Gilly, I think Donny (from AAW) will see this and give you the answers you need. I've never wired an automatic car, but I know there's a place for that lamp.

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09-13-17 05:17 PM - Post#2707606    
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  • Gilly Said:
Installing a AAW Classic Update series in my brothers car, 1966 Impala Conv, 396 TH400, bench seat car (factory AC as well).

Just started today, the fusebox is in after opening the hole up and changing screw locations. Figured out you don't use the wiring strips under the seat for the rear anymore, although we need to reuse the top motor wiring and harness. They will sell you that extra harness if you want it but expensive for what you get.

Anyways, what we seem to be missing is the light socket for the shift quadrant. They show a grey wire which they seem to say is for this location in 1965-66, but coming off the turn signal harness? There was no grey wire in the original harness, but there seems to be a socket on the original, or a pair actually, one for the shift quadrant window and one for the ignition switch, they both seem to be heading towards the fuse box, but again they aren't on the new AAW harness. They possibly could be part of the new dash harness instead of the main harness. Anyone here ever install a classic update on a 65 or 6?

Also there is no place for the socket on the new ignition switch they give you so thinking on reusing the old one or see if we can find a new one with the cup for the light socket.

Gilly



Hi Gilly,

That was a separate harness that tied into the factory harness and should be able to be re-used. You are correct, we did not provide that in the kit.

We did not include an ignition light either, because the new updated switch has no means for one to be used.

You are correct, you no longer use the flat ribbon cable. The top wires will have to be stripped from the ribbon cable and be reused. We do not include that because maybe 10% of the folks building a car with this kit have a convert, and to increase the cost of the kit to accommodate for 10% of the uses, where the other 90% would throw it away didn't make much sense. That is why it is optional. As far as the price, when you see the gauge of the wire, and everything that it includes, it's a bargain, trust me.

You're gonna need to buy the extra cost A/C harness also, because in 65-6, that was part of the dash and engine harnesses, not a stand alone deal.

I hope you are doing a modified car, because if not, the Classic Update may not be the right choice for your application.


Donny




Edited by aawtech on 09-13-17 05:19 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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09-13-17 05:30 PM - Post#2707610    
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Thanks Donny for the fast response!

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Gilly 
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09-15-17 04:15 PM - Post#2707757    
    In response to aawtech

Thanks much. Have also gotten a reply from Ray at AAW. I will stick with this forum and not get separate replies.

I understand about the convertible being extra, no problem it looks like ours will be fine (as an aside what is the small relay-looking thing on the original convert harness? I am thinking a breaker). I don't fault AAW for not including it, perfectly understandable, I didn't mean for it to sound like sour grapes.

Would the original ignition switch work? We are just keeping it with HEI and a carb, nothing fancy. Reply I got said to use the original switch, I would have to run a wire from the starter solenoid to the coil, I don't know if he meant with EFI or without. It would be nice to have the light for the ignition switch but not a deal-breaker.

The deal with the light for the quadrant is still confusing me. I am wondering if maybe that light was put in to the harness for the instrument cluster. That is a separate harness and we haven't even opened it yet. My brother keeps opening bags and he is going to end up with a nice new can of worms instead of a rusty dusty can of worms he started with, LOL.
Reference in the other reply was there is a gray wire in the turn signal switch wires just for this. I have the original harness and the light definitely comes out of the main harness, I assume from the dimmer on the headlight switch, and I really don't think it ties in to the turn signal switch. OTOH if you look at the factory wiring diagram, I don't see it. You can see the gray wire coming from the fuse box (I assume the power is controlled from the dimmer), then branches off and goes to the light for the ignition switch, the PCB for the dash lights, and also the 2 lights for the climate control panel, and a light for the radio, nothing mentioned about the quadrant light. If nothing else I can splice in to the AAW harness to get a bulb back in there.

I know my brother wanted the Classic Update to get the ATO type fuses instead of glass tube fuses. He is not doing a real restoration, he changes the colors of the interior and exterior for example. I thought it was a good candidate for a restoration, but it's HIS toy, not mine. OTOH he is not really changing stuff enough to be called a resto-mod either. Originally was Danube Blue with a blue interior. He wanted triple black. I think the original blue is very dark blue so I would have stuck with that and put the 2 tone blue interior in it.

Thanks all for the help



Edited by Gilly on 09-15-17 04:20 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Gilly 
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11-08-17 02:32 PM - Post#2713688    
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Well we have been plucking away at the wiring. Have made some progress, but sometimes seems like one step forward means 2 in reverse. We were messing with the ignition today. The terminals on the old switch looks to be the same as the one provided in the kit. So we may just stick with a stock switch, to have the light plus the metal tabs that hold the switch connector on. Still thinking about it. I thought I had been told the terminal outputs are different on the new switch, so the provided switch has to be used, but does not seem to be the case. Another more important post coming for the wiring but thought I would do an update on this post since we covered it today.



 
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