Gain extra benefits by becoming a Supporting Member Click here find out how!
Classic Performance Products Classic Parts
Ciadella InteriorsAmerican Auto Wire Classic Industries
Chevs of the 40sDanchuk Catalog
Hellwig Products IncPerformance Rod & CustomEcklers AutoMotive
Nu-Relics Power Windows
Impala Bob's Bob's Chevy Trucks Bob's Chevelle Parts Bob's Classic Chevy

Username Post: suspension up-grade Information        (Topic#347006)
bolake 
Forum Newbie
Posts: 12

Age: 70
Loc: Northern MN
Reg: 09-05-17
09-06-17 05:52 AM - Post#2706808    

Have a 1950 Chevy styleline 2 dr sedan with 350,and 350 turbo auto.Is there any front mustangII or other suspension that can be installed without removing the engine? If not can you install just rack/pinion steering with original front end. Have already installed front disc brakes and change to firewall pedal assembly, dual master cylinder and booster. Or any idea's

If your not the lead dog the view never changes


 

Shepherd 
Contributor
Posts: 941

Loc: Lake George, NY
Reg: 11-11-15
09-06-17 10:20 AM - Post#2706826    
    In response to bolake

My 51 has a Fatman front end, with power rack and pinion. Handling is great!! Anyway, I've seen racks done with the stock column and stock crossmember, not the way to do it, very poor angles are a result. You would need most of the front end removed to install anyone's M11 set up.For one example go to Fatman and you can download their installation instructions.



 
Mr49Fleetline 
"4th Year" Silver Supporting Member
Posts: 142
Mr49Fleetline
Loc: Salinas Ca
Reg: 01-29-14
09-06-17 10:40 AM - Post#2706828    
    In response to bolake

Which engine trans mount set up was used for the 350/350 combo? I used the waltons set up to install my 350/350 combo in my 49 fleetline and was wondering the same thing you are.

Common Sense Ain't common..Will Rogers


 
raycow 
Honored Member
Posts: 26842
raycow
Loc: San Francisco, CA
Reg: 11-26-02
09-06-17 11:36 AM - Post#2706830    
    In response to bolake

  • bolake Said:
.....Is there any front mustangII or other suspension that can be installed without removing the engine? If not can you install just rack/pinion steering with original front end.....


This would depend in part on how your engine is mounted now. If your V-8 conversion mounts are attached only to the side rails and not to the stock crossmember, you MIGHT be able to get the crossmember out and the M-II in with the engine still in place. However, this is not a job I would wish on anyone I like. Please believe me that the upgrade will go a lot easier with the engine out of the way.

As for the standalone R&P conversion, the one I looked at was not pretty. Much of it hung so far below the frame that it would be vulnerable to ground contact, and the risk would be even worse if your car is lowered. Besides, this still leaves you with the stock suspension and all of its grease fittings that want to be fed every 1000 miles. I strongly recommend that you find one of these setups already installed and take some measurements underneath it before you lay down your money. If you are lucky, the manufacturer or vendor's website might have pics of a completed installation so you can see what it looks like. The one I saw already on a car was at a show where the mfr/vendor was not present to answer any questions.

Ray

Those who choose an automatic transmission want transportation. Those who choose a manual transmission want to drive.


 
bolake 
Forum Newbie
Posts: 12

Age: 70
Loc: Northern MN
Reg: 09-05-17
09-06-17 11:47 AM - Post#2706833    
    In response to Mr49Fleetline

Engine mounts are off frame each side1/3 the way back from front of motor. Tranny has the frame cross member with tranny bracket mount supporting rear tail of transmission

If your not the lead dog the view never changes


 
bolake 
Forum Newbie
Posts: 12

Age: 70
Loc: Northern MN
Reg: 09-05-17
09-06-17 11:52 AM - Post#2706835    
    In response to raycow

Thanks for the information, figured the motor would have to be pulled but wanted to check. Being I have did the disc brake up-grade and also installed new tie rods and rebuilt center steering idler, I may just go ahead and rebuild front suspension. Steers/rides pretty good right now.

If your not the lead dog the view never changes


 
Shepherd 
Contributor
Posts: 941

Loc: Lake George, NY
Reg: 11-11-15
09-06-17 12:19 PM - Post#2706840    
    In response to raycow

Ray, yeh, the tie rod angles on the ones I've seen are wrong as they are not parallel, and would certainly cause bump steer and as you said, hang to low, not the right way to to this.



 
hpva 
Contributor
Posts: 394
hpva
Age: 63
Loc: Kinderhook NY
Reg: 03-31-13
09-06-17 12:47 PM - Post#2706844    
    In response to Shepherd

Try jimmeyerracing.com I bought a mustangII front end from them for my 54 BelAir.I have the 235 six in mine and I didn`t have to remove the motor to install.Their`s is a bolt in suspension with very minor welding.I am very happy with this front end.

[URL=http://s275.photobucket.com/user/hpva53/media/Bel Air/Homers542014-03-27018 _zps7d64af95.jpg.html][IMG]http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj296/hpva53/B elAir/Homers542014-03-270 18_zps7d64af95.jpg[/IMG][/URL]


 
Bel Air kiwi 
"2nd Year" Silver Supporting Member
Posts: 3577
Bel Air kiwi
Loc: New Zealand
Reg: 04-24-14
09-06-17 06:25 PM - Post#2706875    
    In response to hpva

Hi Bolake, have a search for a post called "jag IFS..." It covers clips M2 and jag.

Cheers kiwi

48 3100 RHD, 51 Deluxe 4DR RHD, 51 Bel Air parts car, 52 Bel Air P-Glide LHD. Others 23T, 32 Tudor, 58 Edsel pacer 4DR HDT, 79 F250 351C RHD. 69,70,82 Capri. No mobile, no TV, and no Jap cars.

And when it was laid to waste, they called it peace.


 
bolake 
Forum Newbie
Posts: 12

Age: 70
Loc: Northern MN
Reg: 09-05-17
09-07-17 05:26 AM - Post#2706900    
    In response to Bel Air kiwi

Tried a couple different searches for jag IFS but came up with no results

If your not the lead dog the view never changes


 
Boosted54 
"3rd Year" Gold Supporting Member
Posts: 95
Boosted54
Loc: Portland, Oregon
Reg: 11-28-14
09-07-17 08:41 AM - Post#2706922    
    In response to bolake

Check out Progressive Automotive, they have C4-C5 kits, or Chevs Of The 40's, they sell a C5 kit. I did the Progressive unit & am real pleased with the results.

More pic of the boosted54 build can be found below
www.boosted54.com
Facebook Link
Instagram Link
http://chevyta.lk/Boosted54


 
Bel Air kiwi 
"2nd Year" Silver Supporting Member
Posts: 3577
Bel Air kiwi
Loc: New Zealand
Reg: 04-24-14
09-08-17 09:42 PM - Post#2707126    
    In response to Boosted54

Hi Bolake. The Post is called

"JAG IFS MOUNT BRACKETS" Post #340734.

I bumped it for you so it should come up.

Cheers kiwi

48 3100 RHD, 51 Deluxe 4DR RHD, 51 Bel Air parts car, 52 Bel Air P-Glide LHD. Others 23T, 32 Tudor, 58 Edsel pacer 4DR HDT, 79 F250 351C RHD. 69,70,82 Capri. No mobile, no TV, and no Jap cars.

And when it was laid to waste, they called it peace.


 
bolake 
Forum Newbie
Posts: 12

Age: 70
Loc: Northern MN
Reg: 09-05-17
09-09-17 05:07 AM - Post#2707139    
    In response to Bel Air kiwi

Thanks

If your not the lead dog the view never changes


 

Icon Legend Permissions Topic Options
Report Post

Quote Post

Quick Reply

Print Topic

Email Topic

746 Views
FusionBB
FusionBB™ Version 2.1
©2003-2006 InteractivePHP, Inc.
Execution time: 0.506 seconds.   Total Queries: 16   Zlib Compression is on.
All times are (GMT -0800) Pacific. Current time is 11:26 AM
Top