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Username Post: Rear Shocks        (Topic#346106)
dpurdy 
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07-19-17 02:04 PM - Post#2700633    

1952 Chev Styline. Anyone installed Gabriel or Monroe rear shocks Need part number. I'm getting conflicting numbers from on-line and local jobber.

Dave

'52 Chev Deluxe Sport Coupe
'69 MGB Tourer
'01 GMC 2500HD daily driver


 

2blu52 
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07-19-17 04:15 PM - Post#2700646    
    In response to dpurdy

Do you have the old shocks, there may be a part number on them. Monroe usually did have if my memory is still working correctly.

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Dean50 
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07-19-17 08:04 PM - Post#2700670    
    In response to dpurdy

http://salestores.com/frigidairefg261.html?gclid=C...

I think the 5803 is what you need

Dean50



 
Bel Air kiwi 
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07-20-17 12:53 AM - Post#2700677    
    In response to Dean50

Hi Dpurdy, they are pretty standard shocks, have you considered going to a premium brand with a bolt, or weld in shock member.
It not only saves the trunk floor it firms up the shock mount making it function as designed.

Great shocks are only bettered by great tires.

Cheers kiwi

48 3100 RHD, 51 Deluxe 4DR RHD, 51 Bel Air parts car, 52 Bel Air P-Glide LHD. Others 23T, 32 Tudor, 58 Edsel pacer 4DR HDT, 79 F250 351C RHD. 69,70,82 Capri. No mobile, no TV, and no Jap cars.

And when it was laid to waste, they called it peace.


 
raycow 
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07-20-17 10:14 AM - Post#2700725    
    In response to dpurdy

Monroe 5803 or 33049
Gabriel 82155

All of these are on Rockauto, but they don't all appear in the same listing. To find them, you need to know that all 49-54 Chevy passenger cars take the same shocks.

I agree with Kiwi about installing a crossmember for mounting the shocks. Attaching them to the trunk floor was just cheapness on the part of GM, who really didn't want us keeping these cars for 60+ years.

Ray

Those who choose an automatic transmission want transportation. Those who choose a manual transmission want to drive.


 
dpurdy 
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07-20-17 05:21 PM - Post#2700768    
    In response to raycow

Thanks gentlemen. I'll go with the Garbiels. Too lazy to reinforce. For the number of miles it is driven each year, it'll last another 60 with the original mounts!

Dave

'52 Chev Deluxe Sport Coupe
'69 MGB Tourer
'01 GMC 2500HD daily driver


 
Bel Air kiwi 
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07-21-17 12:58 AM - Post#2700796    
    In response to dpurdy

Hi Dave, if it doesn't do many miles and they are on soft roads then you could be fine without a member. However metal fatigue is about duty cycles so how many total cycles matters, time not so much. The bolt in kits are probably cheaper than the time and effort to repair the trunk floor.

Cheers kiwi

48 3100 RHD, 51 Deluxe 4DR RHD, 51 Bel Air parts car, 52 Bel Air P-Glide LHD. Others 23T, 32 Tudor, 58 Edsel pacer 4DR HDT, 79 F250 351C RHD. 69,70,82 Capri. No mobile, no TV, and no Jap cars.

And when it was laid to waste, they called it peace.


 
sparkie93 
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07-21-17 03:17 AM - Post#2700797    
    In response to Bel Air kiwi

  • Bel Air kiwi Said:
Hi Dave, if it doesn't do many miles and they are on soft roads then you could be fine without a member. However metal fatigue is about duty cycles so how many total cycles matters, time not so much. The bolt in kits are probably cheaper than the time and effort to repair the trunk floor.

Cheers kiwi




Does someone offer a bolt-in stiffening kit?



 
Bel Air kiwi 
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07-21-17 10:24 PM - Post#2700880    
    In response to sparkie93

Hi, I think Walton's and others do, its' not a very complicated piece. Just look on their web site or google it.

Cheers kiwi

48 3100 RHD, 51 Deluxe 4DR RHD, 51 Bel Air parts car, 52 Bel Air P-Glide LHD. Others 23T, 32 Tudor, 58 Edsel pacer 4DR HDT, 79 F250 351C RHD. 69,70,82 Capri. No mobile, no TV, and no Jap cars.

And when it was laid to waste, they called it peace.


Edited by Bel Air kiwi on 07-21-17 10:32 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
40grit 
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07-21-17 11:20 PM - Post#2700884    
    In response to Bel Air kiwi

Here is a link for anyone modifying their shock mounts and needing a shorter shock. it is a few years old but still has good inforemation.

http://www.shockwarehouse.com/news/pdf/monroe-shoc...

John

Just Slightly Abrasive


 
Bel Air kiwi 
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07-23-17 06:58 PM - Post#2701120    
    In response to 40grit

Hi Guys, Bolt in shock mounts by Waltons.

Cheers kiwi

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48 3100 RHD, 51 Deluxe 4DR RHD, 51 Bel Air parts car, 52 Bel Air P-Glide LHD. Others 23T, 32 Tudor, 58 Edsel pacer 4DR HDT, 79 F250 351C RHD. 69,70,82 Capri. No mobile, no TV, and no Jap cars.

And when it was laid to waste, they called it peace.


 
gregd66 
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01-10-18 10:56 PM - Post#2720755    
    In response to Bel Air kiwi

Hey Kiwi, what shock are you using with the waltons cross member and lowering blocks? I am going with the same setup and need to order shocks. Thanks mate!

54 Belair in progress
64 Chevy swb, 2nd in line
46 Ford coupe, future gasser
66 Mustang, my first car, circa 1983
40 Chevy 2 door sedan


 
johnwd98 
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01-11-18 05:53 AM - Post#2720766    
    In response to gregd66

I'm curious because my Fleetline that had 80k miles on it when I got it, didn't have cracked or broken top shock mounts. This car looked like it had been driven on mostly gravel roads all it's life. The wheel openings and the front of the fuel tank were full of dents caused by, and I am assuming this, rocks hitting them. It had dust under all the moldings and, the frame was full too. But, the shock mounts looked good. If you know what the roads are like in North Dakota even today, you can about imagine how few tarred roads there were back in the early 50's & 60's. Even today it seems as though the fast majority of county and township roads are still not tarred. So, what I am curious about is, how many of you actually had cracked or broken top shock mounts when you got your car?



 
Shepherd 
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01-12-18 07:26 AM - Post#2720848    
    In response to Bel Air kiwi

Interesting, my shocks are mounted rear of the axle.



 
one4dad 
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01-12-18 08:26 AM - Post#2720852    
    In response to johnwd98

I too still have shocks attached to original trunk mounts. I'm running booster shocks, and so far no issues. Mileage on car ( if true) is a little more than 67000.
So what can be results if trunk mount fails while driving, other than an obvious sag on that side?

Bill Wilson 50 styleline deluxe 2 door sold,- 51 styleline Deluxe 2 door ,'56 235 with dual carter webers on an Offenhauser intake, Fenton headers, 56 chevy rear end and 700R4 transmission.


 
Shepherd 
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01-12-18 08:44 AM - Post#2720855    
    In response to one4dad

Shocks don't support car weight, if that happens either support plates would be welded in or better, the Walton brace/mount installed,which also helps with frame stiffening.



 
raycow 
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01-12-18 11:30 AM - Post#2720867    
    In response to Bel Air kiwi

Kiwi is that a Ford rear axle or one from a tri five? I have trouble telling them apart from behind.

Ray

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Bel Air kiwi 
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01-12-18 05:09 PM - Post#2720886    
    In response to raycow

Hi Ray, just a generic picture from online of the shock bracket. Not sure what diff it is. For six cylinder I use a GM Holden type which has a rear exit pumpkin. all though for V8's I would have used a GM Holden One tonner diff with a Ford 9" center. As these were both leaf spring cars.

I use KYB or Koni and sometimes others as shock absorbers are a significant contributor to ride quality and handling.

Cheers Kiwi

48 3100 RHD, 51 Deluxe 4DR RHD, 51 Bel Air parts car, 52 Bel Air P-Glide LHD. Others 23T, 32 Tudor, 58 Edsel pacer 4DR HDT, 79 F250 351C RHD. 69,70,82 Capri. No mobile, no TV, and no Jap cars.

And when it was laid to waste, they called it peace.


 
raycow 
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01-12-18 06:27 PM - Post#2720891    
    In response to Bel Air kiwi

Sorry, Kiwi, I thought that was one of your cars. Your sig says you have a 51 and a 52, and the frame looks like it could be one of those.

Ray

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VANDENPLAS 
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01-12-18 08:00 PM - Post#2720901    
    In response to raycow

I think the shock mount failing is a bit of a stretch.

But the waltons or chassis engineering shock mount/rear cross member will defiantly help stiffen up the frame a bit.

When I bought my fleetline between the bumper and fuel tank was welded a 2” X2” square tube from inside of each frame rail. Guessing this was the previous owners attempt at a rear stiffening bar.

It was done well so I’ve left it in.

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Bel Air kiwi 
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01-13-18 02:55 PM - Post#2720964    
    In response to VANDENPLAS

Hi VDP, Some folks have had the trunk torn and as the power and speeds go up it becomes more of an issue.
I don't think Chevy made a mistake with this, they calculated that for the car they made it would do.
So its a calculated cost saving.

In the other variants of our cabin like a Pontiac or Oldsmobile you will find the whole chassis differs but they also have a shock member at the back.

Also as many folks are converting from Torque tube to open drive-line with more power and speed in the car the need for a bit of rear chassis bracing goes up.

Flexing shock absorber top mounts must reduce their effectiveness. If you add coil springs to the shocks or any sort of overload device through the shocks the loads also go up dramatically.

It may not be a vital change, but it is founded in good common sense as it can achieve a couple of things at once.

Cheers Kiwi

PS. Hi Ray, my 52 is stock and unrestored, the second one is the parts car. So both are still Torque tube.


48 3100 RHD, 51 Deluxe 4DR RHD, 51 Bel Air parts car, 52 Bel Air P-Glide LHD. Others 23T, 32 Tudor, 58 Edsel pacer 4DR HDT, 79 F250 351C RHD. 69,70,82 Capri. No mobile, no TV, and no Jap cars.

And when it was laid to waste, they called it peace.


Edited by Bel Air kiwi on 01-13-18 02:57 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 

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