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sidworks 
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03-31-17 04:57 PM - Post#2684401    


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jaytone 
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Reg: 09-23-05
04-01-17 10:01 AM - Post#2684494    
    In response to sidworks

I know how my President got in, I VOTED for him and glad I did. Just remember, he is Hillary and Barack Husseins President too !



 
57tim 
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Loc: Cameron, Wi, USA
Reg: 11-09-01
04-03-17 10:34 AM - Post#2684766    
    In response to jaytone

Yes he is and all the snowflakes too.

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327 700r4
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grumpyvette 
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grumpyvette
Age: 69
Loc: FLORIDA USA
Reg: 03-16-01
04-03-17 04:14 PM - Post#2684813    
    In response to 57tim



IF YOU CAN,T SMOKE THE TIRES AT WILL,FROM A 60 MPH ROLLING START YOUR ENGINE NEEDS MORE WORK!!"!
IF YOU CAN , YOU NEED BETTER TIRES AND YOUR SUSPENSION NEEDS MORE WORK!!


 
Bel Air kiwi 
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Posts: 2702
Bel Air kiwi
Loc: New Zealand
Reg: 04-24-14
04-04-17 10:35 PM - Post#2685062    
    In response to grumpyvette

Hi GV, from the outside looking in you had a choice between dumb and dumber. Glad to hear that as indebted as you are as a country, (mainly to the Chinese and Saudis), that you have a few spare billion to spend on new but obsolete warplanes.
But nothing much yet on the broke down infrastructure.
But don't worry the Chinese will lend you the money for that if it's their steel and build. They have been doing it in the third world for years. Bridges, dams, roads, no problem they will finance it.
Your economy is in great shape, despite not having raised real productive output since the 60's, you will be fine now Trump has rescinded the Obama post crash banking rules that said the banking industry wasn't allowed to defraud its own customers, so the next scam is just around the corner.

My god you guys are in easy street, now.

Cheers Kiwi.

PS It doesn't matter who you voted for, the decisions always follow the lobbyists money.
So welcome to the United States of Sachs Goldman.


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Bel Air kiwi 
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Bel Air kiwi
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04-04-17 10:36 PM - Post#2685063    
    In response to grumpyvette





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Edited by Bel Air kiwi on 04-04-17 10:41 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Chevrobert 
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04-07-17 06:57 PM - Post#2685503    
    In response to Bel Air kiwi

  • Bel Air kiwi Said:
Hi GV, from the outside looking in you had a choice between dumb and dumber..............
....................
................,

My god you guys are in easy street, now.

Cheers Kiwi.

PS It doesn't matter who you voted for, the decisions always follow the lobbyists money.
So welcome to the United States of Sachs Goldman.




You spell Goldman with a capital g,
yet you spell GOD with a lower case.
So you might want to look inward grasshopper.
(Kung Fu)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068093/?ref_ =nv_sr_5

AND
I won't comment on New Zealand's exclusionary immigration policies.

cheers

Bob
'64 Impala SS
'77 Pontiac Ventura SJ
('91 Olds Cutlas Cruiser SL)
Ain't to proud to think out loud.


 
Bel Air kiwi 
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Posts: 2702
Bel Air kiwi
Loc: New Zealand
Reg: 04-24-14
04-08-17 12:05 AM - Post#2685546    
    In response to Chevrobert

Hi Chevrobert, your grammatical suggestions are correct, not sure that it changes the line of reasoning though.
With Toyota now having the highest US build content of any US automaker and the rustbelt making the difference in the swing of the election. I can't see how they are being rewarded.
A bit of climate change denial and that's it.

You can't re-start the steel industry that was mothballed decades ago. The technology has moved on and no one is going to front the capital for a new set of mills and foundries, etc when they know the Chinese will price them out of existence.

The cheapest way to make steel is recycle it and while you weren't looking the Chinese have taken global control of that business. There are only two metal recyclers in our country that they don't own. They bought them, they didn't steal them, but if you have a small foundry here it's really hard to get steel/iron to recast as it all goes back to China.

I don't know the figure for steel but it takes 20 times the energy to make a new aluminium drink can from bauxite as it does to recycle it. I guess steel is about half that rate as a ball park.

Anybody can come here as long as they aren't criminals or unable to sustain themselves. I am not sure what you mean about our immigration policies.
You are not confusing us with the Australian's and their boat people from Asia policy. Which is "Send them all back or it won't stop".
They have effectively killed the people smuggling industry down there as they have said if we don't invite you you will never stay in Australia. That is a nation's sovereign right to do so.
If you do make it they pay a poor Pacific nation to keep you, which means genuine refugees are not returned but economic migrants are.

That would be like me asking you how you like your President Trudeau. Close neighbours, but not the same country.

Cheers Kiwi




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Chevrobert 
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Loc: Braintree, Ma. USA
Reg: 06-14-08
04-10-17 03:07 PM - Post#2685896    
    In response to Bel Air kiwi

My understanding was the primary prerequisite to applying for citizenship IN N.Z. was....,
One had to show a skill that would be generally/specifically beneficial to business, the people or government?
I got that impression 40 years ago so I may be wrong.
As far as commenting on young Mr Trudeau?
That would not be very neighborly of me.
Perhaps that's the point
I should have originally emphasized.

Cheers


Bob
'64 Impala SS
'77 Pontiac Ventura SJ
('91 Olds Cutlas Cruiser SL)
Ain't to proud to think out loud.


 
4dr 57 
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4dr 57
Loc: Texas Hill Country
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04-12-17 07:21 PM - Post#2686331    
    In response to Bel Air kiwi

Bel Air kiwi-

I suppose you heard that he lost the peoples(the Popular vote) by 2 or 3 million at least and he still won The Office of President Of the United States Of America...wait did I just say an oximoron?




 
raycow 
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raycow
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Reg: 11-26-02
04-12-17 09:05 PM - Post#2686357    
    In response to 4dr 57

Stan, neither Kiwi nor anyone else who lives under a civilized government should be expected to comprehend the Electoral College. No other country on the planet uses such an irrational system of choosing a head of state. It was devised 230 years ago by a group of elitists who believed that the general population at the time was too stupid to elect a president. These were the same people who determined that a slave was worth 3/5 of a free person. Maybe some concepts just don't work so well after 230 years.

Ray

There's a line between good and evil no wider than a razor's edge - D.S. James Hathaway quoting from The Night Keeper


 
2blu52 
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2blu52
Age: 83
Loc: Montana
Reg: 03-12-02
04-13-17 10:10 AM - Post#2686455    
    In response to raycow

  • raycow Said:
Stan, neither Kiwi nor anyone else who lives under a civilized government should be expected to comprehend the Electoral College. No other country on the planet uses such an irrational system of choosing a head of state. It was devised 230 years ago by a group of elitists who believed that the general population at the time was too stupid to elect a president. These were the same people who determined that a slave was worth 3/5 of a free person. Maybe some concepts just don't work so well after 230 years.

Ray


And the way to handle that is to garner enough support to write and amendment to the Constitution and get it ratified by the required number of states.


"PEACE IS THAT GLORIUS MOMENT IN HISTORY WHEN EVERY ONE STANDS AROUND RELOADING"

THOMAS JEFFERSON


 
pauldian 
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pauldian
Loc: seligman,arizona
Reg: 05-14-09
04-13-17 08:06 PM - Post#2686529    
    In response to raycow

  • raycow Said:
Stan, neither Kiwi nor anyone else who lives under a civilized government should be expected to comprehend the Electoral College. No other country on the planet uses such an irrational system of choosing a head of state. It was devised 230 years ago by a group of elitists who believed that the general population at the time was too stupid to elect a president. These were the same people who determined that a slave was worth 3/5 of a free person. Maybe some concepts just don't work so well after 230 years.

Ray




Thank you Ray !



 
Chevrobert 
Valued Contributor
Posts: 3288

Loc: Braintree, Ma. USA
Reg: 06-14-08
04-14-17 12:10 PM - Post#2686609    
    In response to pauldian

I have voted for Presidential candidates that did not get elected many times.

However, the person that "won" those elections was/is still My President.
That being said..., IMHO
The electoral college gives weight to those who do not live in/on the
Northeast and West Coast
If the people want to change that, the people can change it.




Bob
'64 Impala SS
'77 Pontiac Ventura SJ
('91 Olds Cutlas Cruiser SL)
Ain't to proud to think out loud.


 
Bel Air kiwi 
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Posts: 2702
Bel Air kiwi
Loc: New Zealand
Reg: 04-24-14
04-18-17 05:16 PM - Post#2687215    
    In response to Chevrobert

Hi Guys, We had a system here years ago called first past the post. so in each electorate (Bit like a mini state.) whoever won the most votes got the seat. The size of the majority was unimportant. Just had to be one. So like your system when there was massive support in certain electorates the losing major party could have had more votes cast for it but gain less seats and loose.

Whe now have a system called MMP, which means Mixed Member Proportional system.
So we get one vote for our electorate MP (Member of Parliament) and one vote for a party on the national ballot. You probably need to look it up on-line as there are a lot of little quirky rules but it's quite interesting.

We don't have a President, and our Governor General, who in theory represents the Queen here, is mostly ceremonial. However the Australian one did sack a government there.

We do have political lobbying but all election donations over $50,000 have to be disclosed and an MP was sacked a couple of years ago for accepting two from the same source. Convicted of electoral fraud as well. All election spending has to be disclosed and any airtime must be apportioned according to the size of the party. It's not perfect as you can fudge some lines but you can't buy a political party or the overall outcome with money, foreign or otherwise.

It would have been interesting to see Bernie Sanders run off against Donald Trump, but the vested interest superdelegates and wall street money prevented that.

Cheers Kiwi

Got to give some kudos for the retaliation strike against Syria for chemical weapons on kids. But not quite ready for Korea 2.



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2blu52 
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2blu52
Age: 83
Loc: Montana
Reg: 03-12-02
04-18-17 07:54 PM - Post#2687255    
    In response to Bel Air kiwi

"Got to give some kudos for the retaliation strike against Syria for chemical weapons on kids. But not quite ready for Korea 2."
Me either was involved with #1.

"PEACE IS THAT GLORIUS MOMENT IN HISTORY WHEN EVERY ONE STANDS AROUND RELOADING"

THOMAS JEFFERSON


 
Bel Air kiwi 
"2nd Year" Silver Supporting Member
Posts: 2702
Bel Air kiwi
Loc: New Zealand
Reg: 04-24-14
04-21-17 04:00 AM - Post#2687568    
    In response to 2blu52

Hi 2Blu52, I am not quite sure what will happen there. It's a bit of a case of two loose cannons in a pissing contest. However as China has huge vested interest in the US, (who do you think bankrolls your trillions of dollars of debt!!!), then my gut instinct is to follow the money.

China can not afford to go to war against the US because if they lose they don't get their debt back and if they win the US can't pay back their debt.
So it doesn't surprise me that China has cancelled air travel with PKR, canceled a lot of coal imports from PKR, their only cash supply, and reminded the world that they don't have any treaty agreement with the PKR. They do pretty much own them though.

However I don't think for a moment that they will tolerate any sort of show of strength by the US in their backyard. They are probably on balance the world's premier economic/military super power at the moment, US second and the Russians a distant third. And if my cynical view of world politics is to be valued at all, they got that way by not playing proxy wars against the Russians for the last twenty plus years.

The Iron curtain fell down because you guys burned it economically, but your issue now is that you borrowed the money to achieve that. Without the enormous productive economy you had before the seventies you don't have the reserves to fund that kind of activity, and all you are doing by continuing to pursue that approach is dig a further debt grave for yourselves.
I understand your debt is about 19 trillion, that's 19 million millons and growing, and if say there are 325 million of you then everybody in the US is in debt 19,000,000/325 $ each. So you are each about $58,000.00 plus interest down the hole funding unresolved wars.

To be honest I think if PKR actually got to the point of having a viable nuke and a launch mechanism the people who would shoot it down first would be the Chinese. They are more than happy for you guys to be bricking yourself about the possibility, but the reality of that little whack job causing that sort of grief in their backyard can't be tolerated.

Boy, I am glad we do more trade with China than the US now.

Cheers Kiwi

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Edited by Bel Air kiwi on 04-21-17 04:10 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 




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