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Username Post: Can't get oil filter off!        (Topic#343053)
chevyisland 
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03-04-17 09:05 PM - Post#2679722    

No matter what I'be tried, can't get oil filter off 2011 GMC 5.3L! Have just about destroyed the canister! Any suggestions?

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03-05-17 07:35 AM - Post#2679755    
    In response to chevyisland

Use a hammer and chisel.



 
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03-05-17 09:01 AM - Post#2679759    
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  • chevyisland Said:
No matter what I'be tried, can't get oil filter off 2011 GMC 5.3L! Have just about destroyed the canister! Any suggestions?


It's probably too late for this now, but about the best thing for oil filters that are in an area with restricted access (like your typical LS engine) are the socket style oil filter wrenches. About $6 and available at your local auto parts store.

If the very end of the filter isn't completely misshapen, you could certainly try one of these. Won't hurt to go ahead and buy it; you'll want it for next time. Be sure to use the new filter you buy to test-fit the tool so you know you have the right one.

Pennzoil socket # 19907 is what fits the Mobil1 M1-206 filter I use on my 6.0's. http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/PEN4/19 90...

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03-05-17 11:39 AM - Post#2679788    
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  • chevyisland Said:
No matter what I'be tried, can't get oil filter off 2011 GMC 5.3L! Have just about destroyed the canister! Any suggestions?



Are you turning it the correct direction?


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back2chevy 
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03-05-17 09:36 PM - Post#2679882    
    In response to chevyisland

I used a large channel locks get remove my neighbors oil filter on a 5.3.
Or you can drive a screwdriver through the filter to break it loose.

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03-06-17 01:35 AM - Post#2679896    
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  • back2chevy Said:
I used a large channel locks get remove my neighbors oil filter on a 5.3.
Or you can drive a screwdriver through the filter to break it loose.



Driving a screw driver through an oil filter would be an absolute last resort for me...... it renders the truck undrivable if you can't get it off.

I don't have a 5.3, but when I Googled it, it didn't look like it a typical steel band oil filter wrench should be a problem to use.


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03-06-17 08:37 AM - Post#2679957    
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The problem with most LS engines is that you've got the filter half-surrounded by the oil pan, and the filter doesn't hang down where you can grab it easily. I've used a steel band style filter wrench with very limited success, because it's hard to get it tight on the skinny body filter an LS uses...and then the handle for the filter starts hitting suspension parts.

The socket is the way to go. I even use it for installing the filter - not to go crazy tight with it, but just to get it tight enough, because unlike old school small blocks you cannot get a firm grasp on it to hand-tighten.

Pic stolen from the 'net, see how it's kind of in a tough spot for some of the more traditional tools:



(the suspension interference issue may be unique to 4x4's; my SS although RWD still has the torsion bar setup like a 4x4)

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03-06-17 12:53 PM - Post#2680014    
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  • someotherguy Said:
The problem with most LS engines is that you've got the filter half-surrounded by the oil pan, and the filter doesn't hang down where you can grab it easily. I've used a steel band style filter wrench with very limited success, because it's hard to get it tight on the skinny body filter an LS uses...and then the handle for the filter starts hitting suspension parts.



Get a smaller wrench? That looks super easy to get to..... no driveshaft, no differential, no crossmember, no angled adapter. It's right there!


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chevyisland 
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03-07-17 06:53 AM - Post#2680162    
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I have a cup type filter wrench, but that just tore up the filter! Had to tear filter completely apart and use heat to get it off. Seems that the dealership used an impact wrench to install it the last time they changed my oil!!! I'll never let them change my oil again!

Thanks for all the suggestions.

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03-08-17 08:43 AM - Post#2680355    
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I have been using this style for years. Never had a filter that it didnt fit around and remove. Inexpensive and worth a try. Lots of sources, try Ebay.

http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages /100...



 
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03-08-17 12:21 PM - Post#2680382    
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I had a bear of a time getting the filter off for the first oil change on my 09. The socket type did not do it. I ended up with a band type wrench and had to destroy the filter case to get it off. May have had to help it with a big screwdriver, can't remember now. I remember thinking it would be wrecker time if I didn't succeed soon.



 
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03-08-17 04:05 PM - Post#2680409    
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  • george88gta Said:
I have been using this style for years. Never had a filter that it didnt fit around and remove. Inexpensive and worth a try. Lots of sources, try Ebay.

http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages /100...



I have one, but I couldn't get it to work for me. I can't think of what I was trying to use it on Though.....may have been something besides an oil filter. I just couldn't get it wrapped and tight around what I was working on.


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03-09-17 08:47 AM - Post#2680532    
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I had a filter once that was on tight and would not come off. I used a cold chisel on the base to free it, easy does it did the job. Part of the problem is some oil filters are made with a thin steel filter can. AC Delco (has gone cheap) is one of those brands (made by Champion Labs), next time try a Wix, then are stronger built.

There are many different sizes of those filter cap wrenches, just 1 or 2 mm too big and it slips. Also, not all filters for the same vehicle will be the same flute size as well so if may fit one brand and not the other.

The dealer is not always the best place for an oil change, the lube tech is often the entry level job in the shop. I would be standing there watching everything they do or they don't touch it.

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Rick_L 
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03-09-17 10:50 AM - Post#2680548    
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And where pray tell us you'd find a place where the lube tech WASN'T entry level, unless you did it yourself?



 
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03-09-17 01:05 PM - Post#2680563    
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  • elcamino Said:
...AC Delco (has gone cheap) is one of those brands (made by Champion Labs)



Yes, I stopped buying AC Delco at that point. I've been buying Quaker State that are made by Purolator...... I'm not sure if the sale of Purolator to Mann-Hummel with change that.

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The dealer is not always the best place for an oil change, the lube tech is often the entry level job in the shop. I would be standing there watching everything they do or they don't touch it.



It should be better than a quicklube shop, as dealers would want to protect their reputation for the purpose of new car sales. Although, my local Chevy Dealership was stupid when I took my truck there to get the front axle oil changed..... They wanted to charge me a huge amount because they'd have to split the case and it might have a locker in it...... and he showed me a diagram of the rear to "prove it".

I stopped going to a quicklube in the winter when I found that they had been over tightening the drain plug.....threads visibly deformed.


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03-09-17 04:06 PM - Post#2680606    
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I have a friend (former Chevy dealer parts manger) who has a repair shop and all his techs are ASE certified, one if a related with 25 yrs GMC/Buick dealer tech. I pay him to change my oil using my oil and filter, he charges $18.

I only change oil every 15,000 miles or 1 yr, which ever comes first. Before you gasp, I have been doing this for over 30 yrs using a high quality 100% synthetic oil that you won't find at Walmart or any other discount store. PM if interested in whats in my 6.2L Denali.

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03-09-17 04:34 PM - Post#2680610    
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  • 454cid Said:
  • george88gta Said:
I have been using this style for years. Never had a filter that it didnt fit around and remove. Inexpensive and worth a try. Lots of sources, try Ebay.

http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages /100...



I have one, but I couldn't get it to work for me. I can't think of what I was trying to use it on Though.....may have been something besides an oil filter. I just couldn't get it wrapped and tight around what I was working on.



Not sure what you were doing. At the risk of stating the obvious and not being insulting, you slide the open end of the strap over the filter and use a 1/2" ratchet, on the shaft, to crank it down. I have actually had a filter start to collapse when cranking this tight.



 
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03-09-17 09:36 PM - Post#2680664    
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i have a home brewed version of that tool. its my go to filter tool when all else fails.

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03-10-17 12:31 AM - Post#2680682    
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  • george88gta Said:

Not sure what you were doing. At the risk of stating the obvious and not being insulting, you slide the open end of the strap over the filter and use a 1/2" ratchet, on the shaft, to crank it down. I have actually had a filter start to collapse when cranking this tight.



I'll have to go out to the garage and take a look at it. I don't think I had much in the way of instructions on the package, and I've never seen one used before, so it's possible I was doing it all wrong. I wish I could recall what I was trying to do...... I doubt it was an oil filter because I have my steel strap wrench that works just fine.


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Edited by 454cid on 03-10-17 12:32 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
wreckmech 
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03-14-17 06:36 AM - Post#2681438    
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http://www.sears.com/craftsman-universal-o il-filte...

This is the one that I use. I have never had an issue with getting them off. It probably won't work if the canister is crushed, but it will work for the subsequent filters. It's tight, but it fits.

I had one years ago on a car that just wouldn't come off. I even tried the screwdriver thru the side trick. I finally had to tear the filter apart down to the base with pliers, and use a punch and hammer to finally get the base off.

The other choice would be to take the filter housing off the engine to get it mounted into a vise. I believe it's only 2 bolts that hold it on the side of the block.



Edited by wreckmech on 03-14-17 06:38 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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03-19-17 07:30 PM - Post#2682281    
    In response to wreckmech

This is what I use and I have never had a problem. Nobody changes my oil except me so over tightening is not an issue.
Got them at Lowes.



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03-20-17 05:41 AM - Post#2682341    
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Find every kind of oil filter removal tool ►HERE

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03-20-17 06:18 AM - Post#2682352    
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I have both the strap and a cap type made of plastic. Cap type would keep slipping so I made sure to wipe down the oil filter with a little brake cleaner on a rag and sprayed some spray adhesive in the cup to get it to grip better. Between the 2 haven't had any issues.

2 of my newer vehicles have a canister type that have a plastic nut molded into the top. Problem now is the oil change place will tighten it too tight and crack the plastic cap.



 
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